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Celebrity Apprentice
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Alrightmate
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by Kolakube:
“I've seen some of Hardeeps documentaries - and they're quite good, but he's not coming across that well on this.”

Oh come on, it's not real.
You can tell it's not real due to the many set up scenes.

Hardeep is just playing a character for laughs.

He's whiny, undermining everything, a wind up merchant, stroppy, and divisive, ......but very funny.
You can tell that most of the time he's being tongue in cheek about it and almost can't help himself smiling.
He's relishing playing a kind of saboteur.

They know what they're doing and what their roles are.
This is more like a drama. Very entertaining, but just a set up drama for the most part.

By all rights Hardeep would normally probably be the first to be fired. But I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that he stays in for entertainment reasons.
Alrightmate
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by googleking:
“It's all just so fake, basically just who can pretend to phone up the most obscenely rich mates.

The real thing with "normal freaks" like the badger instead of "inexplicably famous freaks" is so much better!”

I know. I can't believe that some people are seeing it as reality. I doubt very much that any of the celebs would know what they're doing apart from Jaqueline Gold. They'll have all the hints and contacts all ready there set on for them. Certain scenes set up to play out, certain roles to play. Simon Cowell, Max Clifford, Gerald Scarfe, they'll all be already signed on for Comic Relief. They won't have just been cold-called. The Gerald Scarfe cartoon of Sugar and Cowell will probably be put up for a charity auction for Comic Relief. It'll all have been planned.

It's probably as fake as a reality show could possibly get.
But....I thought it was very, very entertaining.
I thoroughly enjoyed it and am glad that I watched this instead of Torchwood on BBC2.

pierre_gustave
13-03-2008
They both raised a large amount of cash for charity and that was great.
However, this was boring TV.
Does anyone really care who will be fired on Friday?
wakey
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by A Cillay:
“YAY!!!!! Waited ages for this! altough the celeb one is never as good as the real thing.”

You should aquire the US Celebrity Apprentice, its a proper series and not just a one off and while it has the problems that the Uk celeb ones have at times (ie its often more about who you know than what you know) the conflict more than makes up for it
Alrightmate
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by SSCruel:
“I think he'll fire Kelvin. Just because he should've been leader, chickened out, sat on the sidelines, making snide comments and doing naff all. Mainly he'll fire him because he's the celeb who needs 'bringing down a peg or two', i.e. the bad guy.

If this was a real life series Lembit would be fired as Hardeep and Kelvin atleast have a little potential. Lembit was useless and wet. But obvioulsy this is a one off firing, and there would be no fun in sacking a pathetic, but not unlikeable person. He's going to sack a baddie.”

Yes, I didn't realise until I read further into the thread that this was just a one off show as opposed to a mini-series.

Normally if this was a series I'd say that maybe Hardeep might survive due to reasons of entertainment. But as it's a one-off and only one person gets fired I'd say that Hardeep would be fired due to being the star of the show. He was just too prominent a character, and in a one-off show with the result revealed on Comic Relief night,...getting fired would actually really be like winning. If you see what I mean.

As it's a one-off with the final on Friday. I just can't see somebody like Lembit being fired/(Winning) as his personality didn't come across as strong.
It would have to be somebody who was quite funny or amusing, or just stood out who wins/loses for a Comic Relief night.
elite files
13-03-2008
what were the team names agian I seemed to have missed it
Alrightmate
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by BugPowderDust:
“This- totally agree. Kelvin was just an oidious little s**t- didn't want to man up and do it himself, too busy eating, drinking and sniping at people doing work.

And what exactly did Nick Hancock bring to the party?”

I've got agree with you about that Kelvin.
He just sat on the sidelines criticising, and I did think his ranting against Hardeep was going a bit too far. It seemed unnecessarily personal. Just didn't quite understand why he was THAT angry.

But at least Hardeep, despite all his flaws, really got stuck into the task and did pro-active stuff. To be fair to Lembit it's true that he also at least tried to put at least something into it.
Lembit may well have been ineffective, but at least he had a go, I'll give him credit for that.
Alrightmate
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by JonathanEx:
“Whilst it was obvious that the boys would fail miserably, they were so much more entertaining.”

I have to say that when Phil and Hardeep acknowledged how crap they were and they only had a dinner service to sell, then just fell about laughing at their own crapness, I found that hilarious.
Lukey37
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by elite files:
“what were the team names agian I seemed to have missed it”

they didnt have any
newkid30
13-03-2008
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a9146...-revealed.html

Apprentice returns in 2 weeks - excellent!!!
elite files
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by Lukey37:
“they didnt have any”


the girls did sugar and spice?
elite files
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a9146...-revealed.html

Apprentice returns in 2 weeks - excellent!!!”

bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cant wait
SolarSail
13-03-2008
It was just what they called their shops wasn't it?

Sugar & Spicy and Buy One Get One Free
elite files
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by SolarSail:
“It was just what they called their shops wasn't it?

Sugar & Spicy and Buy One Get One Free”

thanks
Kolakube
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
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By all rights Hardeep would normally probably be the first to be fired. But I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that he stays in for entertainment reasons.”

It doesn't really matter who's fired. There's only one episode.

I know a lot of it was done for drama reasons - but people who didn't know who he was beforehand will probably see him as a bit of a numpty.
Helix
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by elite files:
“the girls did sugar and spice?”

Oh, they didn't actually need to come up with team names they were just the names they chose for the shop. The boys had Buy one get one free.
lumpbottom
13-03-2008
Hardeep - FIRED
Kirsty - HIRED
Reality Sucks
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I know. I can't believe that some people are seeing it as reality. I doubt very much that any of the celebs would know what they're doing apart from Jaqueline Gold. They'll have all the hints and contacts all ready there set on for them. Certain scenes set up to play out, certain roles to play. Simon Cowell, Max Clifford, Gerald Scarfe, they'll all be already signed on for Comic Relief. They won't have just been cold-called. The Gerald Scarfe cartoon of Sugar and Cowell will probably be put up for a charity auction for Comic Relief. It'll all have been planned.

It's probably as fake as a reality show could possibly get.
But....I thought it was very, very entertaining.
I thoroughly enjoyed it and am glad that I watched this instead of Torchwood on BBC2.

”

I think the arguments and the egos are real. You can tell what people are made of to some extent on these shows - isn't that why we watch them? The ones who want to take charge , the ones who sit on the sidelines. The ones who get in a strop over small things.

TBH I thought Hardeep was a control freak, but he is quite funny with his one liners. But I think he was genuinly upset over the Hitler comment and the way the sign looked.

All these people are quite driven and successful in their own fields - that's why it's funny to see them doing stuff that is out of their comfort zone. But I don't think the interactions are all set up. Don't forget the cameras are on them for three days and they condense the best bits into an hour.

Also there was no secret that Gerald Scarfe and Max Clifford were already set up by comic relief, as were Bernie Ecclestone's daughter, Dame Kelly Holmes and Barry McGuigan

The difference between the boys and the girls was that the girls had the nerve to ask for more money most of the time. The boys were a bit chicken about it.
RiDsTeR
13-03-2008
I don't understand...

Someone gets fired, um... noone's getting a job, what's the point ?
I know they're raising money for charity, but shouldn't they just do that... why is someone getting fired ??
JonathanEx
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by rishi_d:
“I don't understand...

Someone gets fired, um... noone's getting a job, what's the point ?
I know they're raising money for charity, but shouldn't they just do that... why is someone getting fired ?? ”

Because it's The Apprentice. They need to keep some elements of the formula or it wouldn't be Sport Relief Does The Apprentice, but instead Sport Relief Does Some Shops Competing Run By Famous People.
trec123
13-03-2008
I've only just watched this, and I have to say, of the ladies, Claire Balding seemed the nicest, most level-headed and Jacqueline was everything that gives high powered businesswomen a bad name, imo.
Hardeep was a pain, and surprisingly Kelvin seemed the most balanced (apart from his "hitler" comment at the end)
skyl1ght
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I have to say that when Phil and Hardeep acknowledged how crap they were and they only had a dinner service to sell, then just fell about laughing at their own crapness, I found that hilarious.”

Yeah that was pretty funny.
trec123
13-03-2008
That bit was funny - unless it was your company that donated the stuff!
LostFool
13-03-2008
Originally Posted by wakey:
“You should aquire the US Celebrity Apprentice, its a proper series and not just a one off and while it has the problems that the Uk celeb ones have at times (ie its often more about who you know than what you know) the conflict more than makes up for it”

I've seen a few episodes of the US Celeb version and it was pretty good - though, to be fair, I didn't know who most of the Z-list "celebs" were. They did have a token Brit though in Piers Morgan who was doing his usual annoying tw*t routine.
DavetheScot
13-03-2008
Kelvin Mackenzie really is a repellent bloke. Did you see him chuckling away when Hardeep reacted badly to his Hitler remark? He'd got exactly the response he wanted.

That said, Hardeep did come across as a huffy little so-and-so. But he's not nearly as bad as Kelvin.
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