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I think its the fact that the Oliver auditionees are nearly all from privileged backgrounds that has completely turned me off this part of the show. It made a mockery of what ALW said he wanted one week previously and it annoys the hell out of me because it is so predictable.

I'm probably bitter because when Harry Potter came to town recently for some filming (Gloucester) - who did Warner Brothers ask to audition as extras? Solely pupils from King's (the local private school 3-4 grand a term) and a few older girls from the girl's grammar school.
My daughter and a couple of friends (from local comp) actually attended the King's Stage School every Saturday(open to plebs, surprisingly) but they weren't even given an opportunity nor were members of any local youth theatre group (unless they were already privileged enough to go to the private school.)

Well I'm watching the same process again via 'the Lord'. Perhaps he thinks that if they don't go to Eton or Harrow then they are 'street'?

Same with Lee - he said he wanted a boyband teen idol type, and got a grown-up professional instead. The Olivers are another case in point, you can almost guarantee that the best-spoken, most polished boys end up winning the parts, because they'll be seen as more reliable, better-mannered, more maleable than rougher kids would be. And granted, that's important when they have to do two shows a week at such a young age, but it's not to say that a kid with a harder background couldn't do it.

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Personally I think this show will be quite enjoyable esp if it preceded Dr Who which starts shortly

If you want to make viewing this show even more enjoyable you may want to take part in the prediction game for the show that is set up at www.thekingpredictor.co.uk there is no outlay and points equal loyalty pennies.

Can you predict which Nancy will be eliminated.

WHAT!?!?!? OUTRAGED.


did anyone watch strictly last year? FMs who were in the live audience would text the result to another FM who would post it in the spoiler thread. 99% success rate! (children in need ment no audience on one night!)

we should start doin that.





and also, everyone post an I'd do anything thread, try and get us a sub-forum

With all due respect, not saying they wouldn't have, but there were girls there that DID wipe the floor with some of the final 18 and 12, but they didnt get through, and they didn't show them at all on this programme, or last weeks hmmmmmm I wonder why ??????????????????????/

to be honest she didn't pull it of the bag on that final performance, from the little snippet we saw, but then who is to say Francesca would have??? Were they judging on the full 3 days of Nancy school or just the final performance, I think it was different rules for different people.

Oh bless you, you are really trying to be politically correct aren't you, its okay, you can say it, he is a black boy, black people do NOT call themselves coloured, actually find it more offensive sometmes... Honestly, so dont worry.

He is good, I dont think he is the best singer out of the boys but I think he is very good and has good character, definitely one to watch.

As I once heard in a joke, pink faces, white bodies, rosy cheeks, red lips and they have the cheek to call us coloured.

Exactly, when you think what Oliver has been through, he is a true survivor, it is in his bones, to get through what he ha all by himself, it is our upbringing that makes us, not who gives birth to us, I mean The Queen herself could give birth to a child, but if he is taken away from her as baby, and brought up on a council estate in South East London, well you are never gonna guess after 10 years that he has any royal connections, he will have a south East London accent for starters.

Yes, he played Fagin in the original London production in the 60's.

I was actually going to say the same thing because i've seen a few people write 'coloured boy' lol..it's ok people, it's not racist to call a black person, black! most would rather you said black than 'coloured'.

i think the oliver part of the show will be really interesting. Before i watched billy elliot vids on youtube, i used to underestimate how well a child could carry off taking a lead role! oh how i was wrong lol!

Well I think that is point, Andrew says he wants an Oliver and a Nancy, a lot rougher and unlike any other Oliver production before. Whats annoying is if he wanted to sing As Long as he needs me in the syle of Amy Winehouse then they would have, but they are not gonna go for something so off the wall as that unless directed too are they???

Everyone who is complaining about the posh background. I think even though ALW wanted a street oliver..you knew that wasn't going to happen! lol.

At least they are not all stageschool brats! i don't have a problem with stage school kids but i'd hate if the majority of them are from stage school because then the rest get overlooked!

That is not the case at all. 90% the billys, Michaels and Debbies in Billy Elliot are from Up North, and atleast 3 are from the Unites states, they live with a House Mother whilst in London doing the shows and then go home at Intervals when they have thier days off.

I'm glad that Andrew LW said he was looking for more an Amy Winehouse type, as it was irritating having the Marias sing pop songs each week. At least if they do the same thing this time, they can at least argue that hearing the Nancys singing pop/rock they will hear what they're looking for. Samantha Barks to win!

No its not nice, to be honest if your talented , your'e talented, and just because you are a pikey or a posh arsehole, does not mean you dont have the right to follow your individual dream. God there are some narrow minded people on this forum.

I agree with some of your points, but with all due respect, we have not heard any of the final 12 sing a full solo yet, some of them like scots Ashley and Sarah haven't even featured yet, not properly.

No she didn't already have a job, she was extremely upset and pissed off, when she went off camera, but maintained her composure on screen. She refused to even wait for BBC to get her a cab, was not a happy bunny and rightly so, but she has now got a job, the most professional performers would prefer to, by auditioning as normal, no TV show to make.

This was my point exactly about the whole Francesca thing and for those of you who read my previous thread I was waiting to see what you thought about this. As much as she is a talented girl, I really do not believe that they would have been so lenient on any one else under these circumstances, I mean they said to Cleopatra in the BBC rounds when she had lost her voice, that it was a concern when performing 8 shows a week, but they didnt say anything to Francesca about that did they, I mean come on!!! anyone can get ill and lose thier voice. It just so happend to be her.
Even when Sonia Swaby went in to the workshops, there was no indication that she had previously worked with Francesca on Sam Mendes prodcution as her Bet.
They said they would take into consideration all they had seen over the 3 days, but what exactly did she do, as she seemed to miss most of the classes and lessons being at the doctors and then she did not even perform for a place in the final 20, yet she got through.
They said they would wait and see how the others performed and then decide Francescas fate, and I think they were surprisef when certain people including Nnacy didn't pull it out of the back, but then if they didn't who's to say that Francesca would have. I am sorry to say it but whther or not she woudl make a great Nancy, which she probably would, I really believe there was preferential treatment going on there, possibly at the point of someone else losing thier space to keep her in, but they will deny it to the end.

Nah, sorry, nice idea, but not the case!!!!!

There is no way that LOTR is being forced out, ha ha, thats hilarious, its closing because as much as I adore the books and the films, the show is SHIT!!!!! that is not a reflection of the cast or the visual stuff that goes on, it is just impossible to do the story justice on stage, I mean come on the films have even cut out loads of the story and they are still 3 hous long each. LOTR have not had a decent audience in months, it started struggling not long after it opened.

In the real world people lose out every day because of things beyond their control, it was not fair that at least one person lost out because they decided to give a free pass to someone who was in this situation.
You can never know who was there maybe suffering from a sore throat themselves but actually decided to soldier on instead of getting a get out jail free card.

You are absolutely right, you have not seen anough yet to decide, Sarah, Ashley and RACHEL in particulare are FANTASTIC performers, Rachel is a beautiful siner and actress but you have not seen any of her yet, not much anyway. Amy is great and a lovely girl, but not my fave and I am sorry but from what I saw of her acting and singing I do not get TARA at all (denim catsuit girl)

My sentiments exactly!!!
I completely remember that too, plus when when they are said they are blue, when they are sick they are green, ha ha such a good point and a great way of expressing it.

Thanks I knew there was more but couldn't remember it all.