or did Jasons negative press work the trick?

I don't think any of them had an unfair advantage. They all had an advantage in their own way making them equal. IMO Suzanne was the deserved winner.

I dont think his remarks helped but on the night Suzanne was better

until the result there were hundreds of posts of unfairness

Chris was the one with the most skating experience, which gave him a massive advantage, but Suzanne skated better tonight.

Not winning doesn't mean no advantage. He beat all but one person, and no-one will know where he'd have come if he'd been new to skating like most of the others.

I don't think any of them had any unfair advantages, the show is dancing on ice so the scores are based on dancing, skating and overall presentation. Chris had the skating experience to help him with the skating and confidence on the ice, but Suzanne and Zaarah both had dancing experience which helped them both as well.

I suppose this goes to show that Chris didn't have an unfair advantage.

I think that the unfair advantage stuff that goes along with these shows is sad.

Quite frankly, even if something did make something unfair on one of these shows, the complaining of the biased fans would mean it would be a case of the boy who cried wolf.

There can be advantages and pluses and minuses of all sorts and of complex make-ups, but it doesn't mean that they're unfair, they're just part of it.

-Is it unfair that the best singer doesn't always win the X-factor? Maybe it's just unfair that the X-factor pretends to be just about singing.

He might have been able to skate before DOI but Suzanne has had dance training so imho that equals it out.

The flying is a massive advantage for the girls - Chris had to do all that by himself tonight with little help from Frankie given she is so little. Its much easier for the girls to be kept under control when flying by the professional boys.

All this talk about advantage and disadvantage is a load of rubbish tbh. Each celeb brings with them something from their life to help them along - sports stars have the stamina and the physical ability to put their bodies through the mill, together with the discipline to keep on going when things aren't working out, people like Suzanne brings with her her performing ability and dancing training, actors like Chris bring with them the ability to convince an audience, some bring skating ability (greg and chris - although it didn't do Greg much good). The ones who imho bring the least are presenters. they are neither performers, nor actors nor sports people. They are the ones who will always struggle the most.

As for tonight - suzanne had a distinct advantage over chris in the flying and this should have been taken into account. tbh I find the flying boring and wish they would find something different for the final. However, she did perform better than chris did tonight and based on tonight's performance she deserved to win. However, I think overall Chris has been better and I have found suzanne quite patchy - lucky for her tonight she hit on a good night.

I do think that the girls have it so much easier than the boys though.

IMO it has been engineered from day one for Suzanne to win - didn't do too bad tonight but perfect scores did the judges not see the errors she made - they managed to spot Zaarahs and Chris's mmmmmm

I did think Chris had an early advantage with the ice skating - but tonight in the flying he was at a distinct disadvantage; not only in the weight difference between him and Frankie but also his build. I remember last year Kyran commenting on how difficult it was to get his shoulders through the wires and I noticed that early in the week Chris had similar trouble. I wonder if coming 3rd in the flying put him under pressure when he was performing his main routine - although three 6's is pretty good by anyone's standards.

Anyway it's over now - well done to all 3 finalists; they gave it their best shot.

I have to agree that the flying is advantagoue to the girls. I can't remember Zaraahs feet touching the ground once she was in the air, but then thats a typical preformance from her
all lifts and little skating whereas Chris manages both. BUT tonight Suzanne was a clear winner

I got the feeling of a bias towards Suzanne tonight.

He was negative on Suzanne as well so that's hardly an explanation.


Chris had the enormous, unique starting advantage of being able to skate extremely well. That advantage eroded a bit as other people caught up. Suzanne could only keep up with his marks though by trying ever more dangerous tricks and even then his prior skating skill got more marks when he could perform at full speed. The final evened things out. Flying put other skills into play. Bolero took away Chris's advantage in speed and spinning and jumping and breakdancing as they were inappropriate.It allowed Suzanne to use her advantages in artistic interpretation and her warmer relationship with her partner. Most importantly Suzanne scored higher on the difficulty, risk and wow meters by getting nearer to the standard of the professional females than Chris could get to the males. Ultimately she matched him on the skating when he peformed at her speed and by taking more risks she managed to pull of more difficult and exciting tricks than he could support his female in performing. its a case of Who Dares Wins.

I don't think there was a bias - She just was more driven and perfectionist than Chris which gave her a slight edge in the final. Chris has always been a litle untidy round the edges which is why the funky routines suit him best. In all fairness she deserved to win on tonight's performances.

Strange that in the flying round he scored 5.5s from some judges when his performance was obviously not up to Zaarahs, but then if your favoured these things go your way

I don't think that anybody had an unfair advantage tonight

Chris had previous ice skating experience and Suzanne had previous dance training, but it's about the whole package. i don't think that jason could have influenced the public that much and besides he slated them both, Chris for previous experience and Suzanne for milking injuries.

Whatever people think Suzanne and Matt were amazing tonight, there performance was emotional and imo that's what made people pick up the phone and vote. they ahd a real connection on the ice and the progress Suzanne has made has been phenominal.

I say that it was an amazing final with a deserving winner

over the shows I dont think anyone had an unfair advantage

but I do think females have an advantage in the final

IMO the wire work is much more difficult or males (and may I add everyone agreed with this in last years final and comments made by Stephan in the first year)

A woman can look so much more elegant when being towed round by a man

plus the Bolero is more suited to a female than a male

I agree that the wire work can be more difficult for the males, because it is easier for the male pros to control their partners but...

...the Bolero imo is all about the partnership which has formed between the couple. It is the end of their DOI journey and should be something really special. So in that respect I don't think that it's more suited to the males. it's all about the male and female telling a story, which I thought both couples did really well tonight

Suzanne deserved to win for one simple reason. Over the weeks her partner has allowed her (or trusted if you like) to actually skate on the ice.

That bloke who was with Linda Lusardi he does the same thing, he did it with that bird last year. FOr 9 weeeks he just carries them around and they don't get a chance to get really good at skating. I think the judges even had a go at Linda over it this year. It's not her fault, it's her partners.

I'd like to see a requirement that a minimum % of the routine has the celeb skaters skates on the ice or that you can only put in say 2 lifts maximum in the ealry weeks of the show.

One other small point. The fact that Chris started able to skate so well undermined any chance he had in the final to win on a journey story. The basic journey story from beginner to really good didn't apply and he didn't have the stronger version where a hunky male with no artistic ability discovers his new man self and learns to perform. Males with similar stories do tend to win some reality shows and beat arguably better females - starting so well undermined that happening this time. The candidate here with a SCD winning story would have been Gregg or Steve and in both cases it just didn't happen

I have to disagree, Zaraah has done lots of skating throughout the competition and did again tonight, especially in her "Diamonds and Pearls" routine.

agree 100% with you

Well I am entitled to have an openion on what I saw and to me Zaraah rarely left Freds side and when she sis she always skated firmly on 2 feet, looked unsteady and unsure. Her footwork on landing was always clumbsy and it was eveident last night that she was way out of her league.

I do think Chris was undermarked for his Bolero as it was far more in tune with the music than Suzannes but Suzannes Flying and preformance to Music was better that Chris's ... why o why didn't he do Time Warp ... I loved that

Dan did allow Linda to skate in the last couple of weeks and she in fact managed to do the element (that twirl jump)when she was eliminated against Zaraah when Zaraah didn't manage to do it.

I really don't think anyone had an advantage ... Chris had skating and Linda had dance experience, they even each other out