Not sure that's true - I definitely watch Chris more than Jayne!!!!

(and there are many more who would agree with me!)

No sorry IMO she was the winner from 3/4 weeks ago

the This morning poll was dropped about then and that is when the comments from judges and other tv personalitys started about Chris advantages

I saw the This Morning poll during last week - when it was shown that Suzanne was closing the gap, but Chris was still in front.

I can't remember the actual figures - but Chris had something like a 10% lead over Suzanne - with Zaraah quite a way behind.

There you go - it was still being conducted on the 10th.

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and for a few weeks before the poll was not on

but as soon as Gareth got the boot they brought it back

could it have been because Suzane was lagging behind in those few weeks?
I honestly think that the PTB did not want two males in the final and did not want to let people know just how popular gareth and Chris were

I rarely watch This Morning - but yes it is strange to show the poll, drop it and then bring it back.

I'm not sure how much influence the poll would have though - seeing Suzanne lagging behind could have galvanised support for her - or even had an adverse affect on Chris's vote. Some might have thought he didn't need their vote so gone for their second favourite.

I suppose it's all hypothetical

I think Suzanne was definitely the best last night, but I do think Chris didn't pick up the votes from the fans of other skaters because too many of them really thought he had a distinct advantage over the ones who hadn't skated before and it ultimately worked against him.

I just hope ITV learn their lesson from this and don't make the same mistakes again next year. It caused too much bickering and bad feelings. It will never be possible to have everyone on exactly the same level, but this year there was such a huge difference it was ridiculous. And I'm not taking anything away from Chris, he is a fantastic skater and its not his fault he was entered into a competition with others who were so much worse than he was.

the thing is if Jason and the This Morning getalong gang had'nt harped on about Chris's unfair advantage not even a tenth would have been botherd about his hockey skating
It didnt bother anyone last year about Kyran did it
it certainly bother Jason

I watched the entire show again and coud not find one instance of any of Suzannes injuries being mentioned - the only injury mentioned all night was Zarrah's ribs when they showed the strapping and the VT talked about it.

Philip stood in fornt of everyones supporters when they were skating and the bit where they were told who was in the final was all in front of Chris's supporters before the break. Then he was in front of Suzanne's after the break.

They showed Suzanne's son after she had been given the 6.0's - why shouldn't they?

If Chris had a son no doubt he'd have been shown too!

Suzanne isn't doing the full DOI tour so that knocks that on the head.

There wasn't one mention of Suzanne's injuries last night. There was a mention of her feeling queasy from the spinning which I thought was funny (in the ha ha way!). There was quite a lot of mention of how hard it was for guys in the harness.

Chris got a number of 6.0s - he skated well. Since Suzanne skated as well or better in the eyes of the judges they could hardly give her less and for two of the judges she was better so they gave her 6.0 when they had given Chris 5.5. Can't see a problem with that.

On the Bolero the judges disagreed who was best and didn't score them anyway.

I think the difference was as much due to the others not being very good - I'm sure that the general standard was much higher last year than this year. I don't think that Chris would have stood out so much in Series Two as he did in Series Three.

I cant decide if your just on a wind up or if you actually believe your fantastic theories

I can't see what difference showing Suzanne's son made to the result actually. They showed Steve's children in the audience every week he was in the show too. They've also showed the families of all the skaters every week.

It wouldn't make me vote for anyone just because their child was cheering them on any more than it would seeing their parents and families doing it.

and it didnt' save Steve Backley so obviously some people can actually decide on the skating - mind I'd have saved him on the skating.......

I don't agree - the standard seems to go up every year. Kieran wasn't as good as Chris even by the end of the show. (He wouldn't have attempted the spins that Chris did or the axle jump) although he had a joie de vivre that was very infectious. Claire was very close in standard to Suzanne, though I'd give Suzanne the edge for sheer bravery. If Zaraah had come in to the competition from the start she would have been closer to the other two by the end.

I just wonder who you felt was anywhere near Chris's standard last year apart from Kieran?

You're probably right in some respects - and full marks to Fred and Zaraah for establishing a close partnership in such a short time - but as Zaraah had been practicing in case of a call up I can't understand why her actual skating tecnique was so suspect. She coped with the lifts admirably - yet had actually had more opportunity than the other girls to get to grips with the skating.

I think Chris would have been the best but not by the huge margin of this year. Last year I was amazed by the quality of skating on the first evening. Over the series Kyran, Clare, Lisa, Duncan and Lee were consistently a pleasure to watch. This year, for me, only Chris and (latterly) Suzanne really had that 'must-watch' quality.

I would say Chris was undermarked by Jason and Ruthie in the 'flying' bit as he was better than Zaraah who simply went up and held one position while being pulled around by the lovely Fred.

Chris actually gave a performance and the 3 skating judges marked more fairly than the 'dance ' judges on that one.

Suzanne did have an advantage in the flying, being such a good dancer and did several very precise take offs and landings on different parts of the blade as well as some spectacular positions in the air and pulling Matt along while being upside down.

I expected Chris to be able to capitalise more on his skating experience in the second routine but I thought he looked quite nervous in his performance.

I do think Chris and Suzanne were head and shoulders above everyone else - although I thought Gareth did remarkably well to make the semi final without either skating or dancing experience - and I think if Nat hadn't gone out so early we might have seen something pretty good from her.

I thought the difference was more that the standard of all was lower last year so there were more who seemed in with a chance so they were all more interesting to watch as different ones improved in diferent things week to week.

This year it has only ever really been Chris or Suzanne's as Chris was such a good skater right from the start he eclipsed the others, apart from Suzanne who worked like mad and had the dance experience to become a contender.

I have to disagree with you on that as I thought Chris' performance didnt flow at all and at times looked like he struggling badly.

I thought that Zaraahs was much better, mind you shed didnt appear to touch the ice very often did she

I think Aggie, Greg and Gareth had a major advantage over them all ... the public luved em

Oh yes - and Linda had an advantage 'cos Dan has a huge fanbase - of course Michael would have won if someone hadn't fixed it for his foot to be broken and Sarah had to go so that Zaraah could come in - now have I left anyone out?

Now if only Gareth had small children who could cry on demand...........................

I think Suzanne's ability to express the emotions of the routine and the music played a huge part in her success. It's the reason her flying and Bolero were so moving - and Music was such fun.

Neither Chris nor Zaraah came close in that department.

Next year I demand that each celeb has a small child planted in the audience; better still the celebs could hold their hands and lead them onto the ice like the footballers do in big matches. Oh and a proud mum and nan - Alesha's nan worked wonders in SCD