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Capt_Canary
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by pmc
Curious - you can't be threatened with e.g. blackmail, legally speaking? ”



Blackmail has a distinct legal definition, as do all crimes....

So if your question is 'If you don't pay me £500, I tell.....'
No, this isn't legally a 'threat'..it's an offence in its own right
matt.b
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
Blackmail has a distinct legal definition, as do all crimes....

So if your question is 'If you don't pay me £500, I tell.....'
No, this isn't legally a 'threat'..it's an offence in its own right
”

did calsam get a new login ?
pmc
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
Blackmail has a distinct legal definition, as do all crimes....

So if your question is 'If you don't pay me £500, I tell.....'
No, this isn't legally a 'threat'..it's an offence in its own right
”

And what reference book are you using for these definitions? That's two you have posted so far.
Capt_Canary
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by pmc
And what reference book are you using for these definitions? That's two you have posted so far. ”

I was asked a question so I responded.

All on the basis that if someone can demonstrate Cameron has threatened any HM, I'll give them £100. If they fail they give me the £100.

Where do I get the definition -well, I read Law at University, then at Christleton Law College and have been in practice for circa 8 years
matt.b
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
I was asked a question so I responded.

All on the basis that if someone can demonstrate Cameron has threatened any HM, I'll give them £100. If they fail they give me the £100.

Where do I get the definition -well, I read Law at University, then at Christleton Law College and have been in practice for circa 8 years
”

Hi Calsam
Capt_Canary
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
Hi Calsam ”

Sorry you've lost me. Meaning?
matt.b
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
Sorry you've lost me. Meaning? ”

troll alert
pmc
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
Where do I get the definition -well, I read Law at University, then at Christleton Law College and have been in practice for circa 8 years ”

Thanks for the "CV" - where did you get the legal definition of "theatened" from?
Hammy
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
troll alert ”

You know, you could end up arguing the definition of "troll" here if your not careful.
Mesostim
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
Sorry you've lost me. Meaning? ”

You've become well known I'm afraid......
matt.b
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Hammy
You know, you could end up arguing the definition of "troll" here if your not careful. ”

it just sounds like him, posting a cv within a couple of posts showing off with a profession being very detailed which schools he went to
thms
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
it just sounds like him, posting a cv within a couple of posts showing off with a profession being very detailed which schools he went to ”


got the same handwriting too!

Hammy
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by thms
got the same handwriting too!

”

and his name starts with a C like Calsam, to many coincidences there, eh thms?
Mesostim
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by thms
got the same handwriting too!

”

Since I hope you'll be sticking around for the next year thms you'll soon learn there is an art to spotting posting styles.... They're like thumbprints.......
Alrightmate
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
I was asked a question so I responded.

All on the basis that if someone can demonstrate Cameron has threatened any HM, I'll give them £100. If they fail they give me the £100.

Where do I get the definition -well, I read Law at University, then at Christleton Law College and have been in practice for circa 8 years
”

When Jon went to speak to Nush, when her name was read out as the evicted HM,...a poster reported that Cameron said something along the lines to Steph,...that if Jon was saying anyhting out of order he'll punch Jon's lights out.
So if that reporting is correct, and that was a threat....you might have to pay up to somebody.
charleah
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
it just sounds like him, posting a cv within a couple of posts showing off with a profession being very detailed which schools he went to ”

But has he called anyone a boring little shit yet?

Always the giveaway.
ben4321
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by charleah
But has he called anyone a boring little shit yet?

Always the giveaway.
”

Has he mentioned Harvard yet?
zzenzero
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Capt_Canary
Cameron has NEVER THREATENED to suffocate or punch anyone. If you can give me one example of this, I'll willingly give you £100 (or even more if you wish). If you can't, you can give me the £100 -which I will then immeditely donate to charity via DS.


For info, I'm a solicitor so will act 100% fair in that I will willingly accept the legal definition of 'threatened'
”

No-one here has suggested that cameron has actually done this.He's too much of a snake and a coward to openly confront. His words/thoughts ,however, reveal what he might like to do.

Lets just leave it like this...cameron is an evil cretin and people who like him are either forgiving his multitude of sins or are blind,non-forum/non-E4 viewers who have fallen for Endemol's scandalous editing.

The man stinks and should be back in his pond.

I hope this satisfies your legal perspective.
Foureyes
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by zazza
When is this big talking scotsman going to make good on his threats to Jon?

I notive he always shuts up and pretends to be nice, friendly Cam everytime Jon actually apears...

So, he WANTS to punch Jons lights out, but he SAYS 'Hi Jon, how are ye foing?' and DOES sweet fa..

The guy is a coward and a bully...

”

O for God's sake. I'm no Cameron fan, but have you never said anything in the midst of anger and actually not really meant a word of it?

This silly portrayal of Cameron as threatening and bullying is getting on my nerves.
Purnah
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Foureyes
I'm no Cameron fan, but have you never said anything in the midst of anger and actually not really meant a word of it?

This silly portrayal of Cameron as threatening and bullying is getting on my nerves.
”

Yes, loads of times. But if you don't want Cameron to come across like this, you should have a word in his ear. He said this stuff, you know.

But from my watching of E4 since Day 1, I have frequently been shocked at the viciousness of Cameron's attacks. And yes, they are not direct, they are behind people's backs (even while they are in the room) or when bitching with others. He has also frequently been the ring-leader in bitching.

Cameron appears to be saying an awful lot he does not mean. I don't actually agree with you that he's saying it in anger and not meaning it. It seems more calculated and vicious than that.

And he has never apologised, has he? Or shown regret or remorse. Even when his fellow HMs did over Lisa.

Apologising a sign of someone really not meaning it. Defending your attacks when questioned on them is a sign of someone really meaning it. There is no evidence for your assertion.

You fall into the deluded camp unfortunately.
Last edited by Purnah : 20-07-2003 at 10:29
Mesostim
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Foureyes
O for God's sake. I'm no Cameron fan, but have you never said anything in the midst of anger and actually not really meant a word of it?

This silly portrayal of Cameron as threatening and bullying is getting on my nerves.
”

Then Cameron is the one you hsve a problem with...If he must threaten to strangle or attack people when they are out of earshot as a way to convey to his clique that he hates them then a number of viewers are going to get the impression that this is the sort of person that he is a cowardly bully.......Perhaps he should be more aware of the camera that are recording his vile outbursts...Have a wored with him when he gets out and give him a jolly good ticking off.......
Capt_Canary
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate
When Jon went to speak to Nush, when her name was read out as the evicted HM,...a poster reported that Cameron said something along the lines to Steph,...that if Jon was saying anyhting out of order he'll punch Jon's lights out.
So if that reporting is correct, and that was a threat....you might have to pay up to somebody.
”


I'll willingly pay anyone who can prove Cameron has made one threat.

BTW -Anyone who thinks I'm a returned banned poster, think again and apologise. I've already complained to DS.
Capt_Canary
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by zzenzero
No-one here has suggested that cameron has actually done this.He's too much of a snake and a coward to openly confront. His words/thoughts ,however, reveal what he might like to do.

Lets just leave it like this...cameron is an evil cretin and people who like him are either forgiving his multitude of sins or are blind,non-forum/non-E4 viewers who have fallen for Endemol's scandalous editing.

The man stinks and should be back in his pond.

I hope this satisfies your legal perspective.
”



The only HM to have threatened anyone is Ray. What Ray said could easily be construed as criminal assault. So does your assessment of Cameron also embrace Ray?
Capt_Canary
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by zzenzero
No-one here has suggested that cameron has actually done this.He's too much of a snake and a coward to openly confront. His words/thoughts ,however, reveal what he might like to do.

Lets just leave it like this...cameron is an evil cretin and people who like him are either forgiving his multitude of sins or are blind,non-forum/non-E4 viewers who have fallen for Endemol's scandalous editing.

The man stinks and should be back in his pond.

I hope this satisfies your legal perspective.
”

The only HM who has threatened anyone is Ray. ...

Sorry didn't mean to post this twice. I received a message saying you couldn't post more than once every 15 seconds and assumed the original wouldn't be sent, altough evidenly it was
sympathy
20-07-2003
£100 was it?



http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbr...ry.jsp?id=5225

Quote:
“Then came Cameron's rather staggering reply. "He should not have. I would have punched his lights oot," he claimed, looking around to see if the coast was clear. Presumably suggesting that if Jon's advice on the outside world had come his way, it would have been unwelcome.”

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