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lala
19-07-2003
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“Originally posted by BlueEyes
Never thought of it like that. That would be the only plus side of him winning! ”

Though it would be even more fitting if Scott wins!

Because he has to be the most boring,mushy thing i have ever seen on my television set. Sometimes i watch the live feeds and dont even know who he is !

So maybe it would be better if he wins..............."The bore win Big Bore 4"

Ah fitting indeed
changa
19-07-2003
My opinions have definitly changed since the beginning.

Cameron, I thought was a decent man. Wide-eyed, considerate and a gentleman. I was wrong. He's bitchy, a world class stirrer, aggressive and 2-faced. All this from someone who professes to be a Christian. I find his hypocrisy breathtaking.

Steph, I thought would be a great girl. funny, self-deprecating, supportive...a really good mate. Wrong again. Catty, spiteful and downright nasty at times. Her opinion, expressed again and again about needing girlie company, seems a little hypocritical when we consider that she nominated 2 of the girls, and would have nominated Lisa given half a chance. As it was, her nastiness to and about Lisa was only beaten by Cameron's disgraceful display. Also, last night, she couldn't wait for Nush to go before she started on Scott to Ray and Cameron. She's vile, vile, vile and to my mind, has no redeeming features whatsoever.

Ray, I didn't think I'd like and I was correct. He's weak, easily led and far too suggestable. He's far too concerned with the outside...his "fans" the boos, the cheers and how he's being
perceived...he reminds me of Jonny BB3. He's a bad drunk - aggressive,unintelligable and threatening.

Which brings us to Scott. I don't mind Scott. He's no Alex or Brian or Anna or any other classic BB contestant, but he's a nice guy. A little safe perhaps, but why not? He's worked out for himself that strong opinions get you evicted. He handled his nomination on Day1 extremely well.He's never bitched or backstabbed...he's been a good mate and VERY supportive to 2 HM's in particular, Federico and Nush. If he has a nasty side, he's kept it well hidden. Yes he may have some objectionable personal habits, but who doesn't?

So my vote(s) go to Scott. Sadly I think shabby little Cameron will probably win, but I won't give up uintil lines close on Friday.
It's been a far from classic BB, I hope next year is more interesting. Eviction night should be the most exciting night of the week, sadly this series it has been predictable and the interviews VERY poor.
Last edited by changa : 19-07-2003 at 15:06
ETX
19-07-2003
Do not mind as long as its not Cam or Stef.
Plant
19-07-2003
Anyone but Scott. Remember defending him in the early days, saying there was no such thing as a boring person and he'd come out of his shell.

Still believe there is no such thing as a boring person, but some people are just not meant to be on Big Brother.
Casino Moon
19-07-2003
Nice post Changa
I've only had one complete change of mind, and that was the awful Steph. Before I even got the chance to like Jon , I disliked Cameron because of his running to the diary room to bitch about Jon, who seemed pretty harmless. No change there.
Ray had me fooled for a while. I never liked him but thought he was just a simple minded loose cannon with a strong personality and charisma. I still think he's simple minded but an empty vessel too, gullible and easily seduced by malice.
I don't like Jon quite as much as I did before his re-entry, but I haven't changed my mind as such, he's still my favourite HM this year. This only leaves Scott, who I'll be rooting for this week.
Scott's top of the pops by default really. He doersn't mean that much to me either way, but I don't dislike him , like I dislike the others.
Scott to win. Yay
JamieX
19-07-2003
I thought Cameron was okay until the week after his visit to the SA house, him and stephs bitching annoyed me so much i don't want either of those WOLVES to win.
Cwej
19-07-2003
Interesting question...

Anouska - Thought the same when she went in till the day she left. A nice girl, means well and shouldn't have gone so early. Her performance on BBLB left a lot to be desired though - she was inarticulate to the point of sounding thick.

Cameron - I've always liked the guy and the only things that have sometimes irritated me are is condescending attitude to the others when they get drunk. Maybe they don't CARE if they look stupid Cameron? But aside from that I've found his 'threats of violence' to be nothing more than a way of getting aggression out of his system and he is intelligent and warm. So no, my opinion hasn't really changed there.

Federico - For some reason I fancied Fed when he walked in the house, that changed quickly. I find Federico to be a loathsome individual and that view never changed. Arrogant, unwilling to compromise and sometimes downright rude. So no change with him.

Gos - Another one who I didn't change the view of. A nice bloke through and through and that view never changed at all.

Jon - This one really has seen lots of changes in my attitude to him. People on these forums assume I despise the man - I don't. I rated him 30th out of 49 of the housemates of all-time list. But his behaviour since he's gone back in the house has made him go down a few more notches. Arrogance never wins points with me and it's clear the fanbase has gone to his head. Oh and in week 1 I wanted him to stay in over Federico and Scott. I found his humorous moments enough to want him to stay. Sadly, his humorous moments all seem the same to me now though... Yeah my opinion on this guy has gone down a lot.

Justine - Another one who I've changed opinion on, not so much cos of her behaviour in the house, but outside. I liked her in the house, I'm not afraid to admit that. Her bitching sessions made me laugh and I thought she seemed like a bit of a laugh. But her treatment of 'fame' has been despicable. I don't like that side of her.

Lisa - Never liked her, never will. Nothing more to say on the woman! I think she's actually got a screw loose up there somewhere.

Nush - Nush grew on me a lot. In the first few weeks she came across to me as the most moody faced, uninteresting girl to go in the house EVER and why she was 2nd fave to win for a long time was utterly beyond me. But she certainly seemed more relaxed as the numbers dwindled and I began to like her more and more.

Ray - Oooo... tough one. I found Ray to be one of two or three housemates that I really didn't have an opinion on in the first few weeks. He's a difficult one to form an opinion on even now. He's got a lot of life and soul to him - but get a few drinks down him and.... blimey. He needs to be careful. My opinion changes on him daily!!

Scott - On Day 1 I said Scott was my favourite based on first perceptions. By Day 4 he was the one I wanted out most, apart from Federico, in the first eviction. The man is so boring it hurts. There's a knack to being easy-going AND interesting and Scott only manages one side of that (Anna and Dean are the best example of people who managed both). My perceptions of Scott get lower and lower every day as I realise we've run out of time and Scott is not gonna show us ANYTHING of his personality. Does he even HAVE one? Bleuuuuugh.

Sissy - Another one that I changed my perception of almost daily. The tears, the tantrums. I don't wanna vote anyone out, but then wanting to nominate THREE people one week! But there was always something quite endearing about the girl too. Yeah, a constant changer in my eyes.

Steph - Like Ray, I formed little opinion of Steph in the early weeks, but as things went on I found I warmed to her immensely. She's much stronger than she appears and far more interesting than Scott, despite what many people say. She's completely endeared herself to me and I want her to win now/.

Tania - Didn't like all the tabloid stories about her when she went in the house and that gave me a bad impression of the girl assuming she'd be a money-grabbing cow when she left the house. She hasn't been and my opinion has gone up of her since she left the house.

So in summary:

Anouska DOWN since she left
Cameron THE SAME
Fed DOWN from day 1
Gos THE SAME
Jon DOWN bit by bit
Justine DOWN since she left
Nush UP throughout
Ray UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN
Scott DOWN throughout
Sissy UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN
Steph UP throughout
Tania UP since she left
Foureyes
19-07-2003
I have grown to like Steph and Ray more and more as the weeks have progressed.

Cameron - I think people on here make way too much of his supposed "violent nature" &c &c. The things he's said are nothing more than anyone might say when exasperated with someone - and let's face it, both Nush and Lisa would exasperate ANYONE.

I want anyone but Scott to win, but would be delighted if that anyone were Steph.
ben4321
19-07-2003
Anouska - Fantastic in the house, like a ray of sunshine. Her actions towards her boyfriend in the Australian BB were despicable - thoughtless and cruel. She's even worse than Justine.

Cameron - At first I really liked Cameron. Since then, I've done the biggest U-turn in opinion on a BB housemate ever. I can't believe I ever found him engaging. He's dour, pious, anal, emotionally repressed and the worst kind of hypocrite. Vile man.

Federico - An irritating prat was my impression over the week. He seemed to become more self-aware before he left, of not only his flaws but also the essential banality of the BB experience. So I quite like Fed.

Gos - Initially I thought he was sweaty, sleazy and crude. Now I just think he's the most boring contestant ever. Whoever selected him should be sacked.

Jon - Didn't know what on earth to make of him at first. Jon was cloddish and awkward but began to show surprising depths of humanity and humility. A star basically and who can blame him if his popularity has gone a little to his head. The level of support Jon received when he was evicted was extraordinary.

Justine - Didn't mind her at first, but found her repulsive by the second week. Her eviction is probably one of the most satisfying ever.

Lisa - Unappealing as a person, but great entertainment- and she handled the booing crowd with dignity.

Nush - Simpering flowerchild and possibly quite manipulative but against the others, she comes across a lot better.

Ray - Even more invisible than Scott at first. A prat, a Neanderthal, a complete loser.

Scott - Really liked Scott at first until it became clear he was not going to fulfil his potential. Opinion of him has got higher according to who he is now surrounded by in the house.

Sissy - One of the most genuine housemates ever. Liked her from the start and still do.

Steph - Thought she was terrific and very intriguing when she first arrived. Now she's horrific. She represents all the aspects of British culture that any right-thinking person should be ashamed of - that unquestioning pride in her own insularity and ignorance.

Tania - Wasn't sure about Tania at first, but she turned out to be rather fun. So shallow she's almost deep. Good entertainment value.
alison z
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ben4321
I suppose that since BB4 has been a farcical, shambolic and cynically calculated enterprise, Cameron would indeed be the ideal figurehead to represent it. ”

Ben BlueEyes and especially lala
THANK YOU
You've made me feel better if Cameron does win...
In fact he'd be perfect for it if you put it that way...

On the other hand...
In week one i predicted

Ray to win
Cameron second

Still hope i'm right
Last edited by alison z : 20-07-2003 at 02:49
Cwej
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Foureyes
I have grown to like Steph and Ray more and more as the weeks have progressed.

Cameron - I think people on here make way too much of his supposed "violent nature" &c &c. The things he's said are nothing more than anyone might say when exasperated with someone - and let's face it, both Nush and Lisa would exasperate ANYONE.

I want anyone but Scott to win, but would be delighted if that anyone were Steph.
”

Ooooooo...... someone with the EXACT same view as me. I'm gonna be gutted if Scott wins on Friday. I just can't imagine him even looking PLEASED... I think he'll just wander out and go 'right, time for bed then?'
alison z
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Cwej
Ooooooo...... someone with the EXACT same view as me. I'm gonna be gutted if Scott wins on Friday. I just can't imagine him even looking PLEASED... I think he'll just wander out and go 'right, time for bed then?' ”

Exactly!!! If Scott wins what is he going to talk about when Davina asks him what he's done in the house... sleep & sweat?

When they show his best bits, if they exclude the bits with Nush.. it will consist of..

Sleeping
Sweating
and looking like he had a hangover for 9 weeks
and of course the bit where he had a row with Ray and just sat there...

But Scott win baby
Anyone to win but Cameron...
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