Can someone explain to me why Endemol and/or C4 would want to ensure that Cameron wins? What would the motive be?

I'd like to think it's just a case of poor editing... And possibly them being very careful after what happened with Jade last year. The fact is, the man has made comments on a level with hers. His campness and angelic accent have allwoed him to get away with it though. Of course, most people just haven't seen any of it.

It's quite depressing to watch that ticker as people have such different opinions of Cameron.

Ask his brother, he works in the industry!

well we've spent 8 weeks questioning Ch4's motives on everything they've decided to do

so who know's what they hell they think they are doing ?

there is no fix, its just the anti-cameron lynch mob suggesting it because they are sore losers and won't face up to the reality that the guy is actually very popular with public.

delusional conspiracy theorists in the main.

I don't know. So, when in doubt, follow the money. Ask the question "Why would Cameron winning make them more money?". There are three sources of revenue, and one major asset to Big Brother: voting for evictions, pointless voting and other telephone services, TV advertising, and the Big Brother brand.

The poinless voting/texting type stuff I don't think makes that much of a difference so I'd discount that.

Voting for evictions is down this year, so you might expect to discount this. I don't think we can immediately as we can't be sure how much further it would be down if they hadn't pumped Cameron. I'd imaging they'd have a good idea about how BB was performing in the rest of Europe/The World and it could be a "prop up the voting" ploy. It would also explain the bizarre editing - Cameron is protrayed as Prince Charming on C4, with only a few glimpses of the man that is protrayed on E4. Are they merely stirring up controversy with this so that E4 watchers are, by and large, anti-Cam, and C4 watchers are pro-Cam. They don't care what the strong feeling is, just as long as it is stong enough to vote.

Advertising is a bit more interesting. Do they believe that Cameron attracts a more ABC1 type audience (or, bluntly, a weathier audience), and therefore they can charge more for the slots. Possible I think, but not terribly convincing for ths series.

Finally, look at the brand. This is Endemol's biggest asset. With the increasing number of reality TV shows they must position BB in the market place so that not only is it the original, but it is also the best. At the BB3 they were a reality show for the 18-30 Ibiza generation, and looking at a bad slide down market into oblivion. So drastic steps were needed - the thing that probably frightened them most of all was a "Lad" winning (and I count Kate as a Lad here). This would have sealed BB5 onwards as the "up for it" reality gameshow, and that would be that, to Endemol's detriment. So, who better to win than the anti-lad - Cameron. In fact, looking through the men this year - Cameron, Fed, Gos, Jon, Ray, and Scott - only Ray and maybe Fed could be considered a "lad". After the dust had settled when they entered the house I think they then picked Cameron as the antithesis of last years house, and the programme has been geared for him to win since then.

That's my theory anyway. Which is why I have a certain amount of glee when I think that all their efforts to protect the Big Brother brand has, ironically, probably done it much more harm than letting the natural winner of this series win. (I've no idea who the natural winner would have been - probably Ray.)

I do not believe that you can make somebody popular *purely* by editing.

We've all faced up to it... It's just the fact that so many nasty, vitriolic comments have been completely ignored. The reality is, that he's definitely a character, and definitely very popular... But everything that should imo, have been shown, hasn't been.

Here here. If they can show good and bad comments hms have made then why not Cams....that is what is annoying so many ppl.

If more people believed it could be done, it couldn't.

they printed the sleeve to the SA DVD quite a few weeks ago, what good would it be if the person who went there came 2nd or 3rd? The sleeve will no doubt say the BB WINNER IN SA HOUSE.

That is why they show no negative stuff about him, it would tarnish the PR job they have planned for months re the SA visit.

Accept he has had an easy ride and that he wins it, end of story.

Reality shows go the same way as everything else that money corrupts.

Maybe its just an expansion on the whole Big Brother ideology.To see if they can not only control the contestants but also control the perception of the viewers and their emotions towards the contestants.Or maybe he is just the best of a bad bunch!!

But gazza they haven't been ignored. The bitchy comments made by ALL the HMs have been shown. OK not very comment but they have all had their fair share of backstabbing moments shown on Channel 4. The fact that not every single comment by a HM is shown doesn't make it a conspiracy. I think Cam's bitchy moments have featured quite regularly on the show.

There have been some dodgy things said by other HMs on the live feeds that got dropped from the Ch 4 show but in the scheme of things that's OK. You need to get a balanced picture over the duration of the show and I think Endemol have managed that quite successfully.

Very incisive point. Endemol and Channel 4 have been taking the mick and laughing all the way to the bank for some time now.

BB is not only centred around the concept of voyeurism but also manipulation of media and resources.

TV Critic also makes a great point about marketing, which is basically what *all* TV boils down to now.

It says 'Stout Of Africa', by the way. But you knew that anyway.... :yawn:

I am not doubting that there has been editing, but I'm not convinced the reasons behind it are as sinister as some anti-Cam BB viewers would like to think. And I don't believe that the marketing of the SA DVD is a strong enough motive for rigging the whole show and so risking everything if the rigging were exposed.
I accept that BB is there to make money for C4 and Endemol, but I wouldn't think Cameron would be the one to back to maximise their income. Cameron is a bit of an old woman, and I can't think who he's supposed to appeal to apart from middle-aged housewives. His religious views and the rather pious way he expresses them are a turn-off for many people.
Scott is a 'lad' but an intelligent one. No harm in letting him win if you want blandness.
Ray is the best one to pull in teen votes/texts to increase income. (I think Endemol would like Ray to stay in as long as possible without actually winning, hence their overlooking of his rule-breaking.)
I don't like Cam but until someone can come up with an overwhelmingly good reason why Endemol and C4 would risk their 'brand' by blatantly rigging the whole thing I will remain unconvinced. I actually think Scott or Ray will win anyway.

It really makes me laugh to see all these comments , anti cam, anti jon, anti this and that, endemol riggin it etc etc. Surely if people are not happy then they can always stop watching , voting etc. At the end of the day it is human nature to whinge and moan, even for Christians, so is what people post on the forums any different from the way the HM's are acting , backbiting and bitching.....I rest my case.

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no they wouldnea doo that

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So how is Cameron 'definitely very unpopular'?

You mean the guy who survived nomination against Fed & JOn, the same guy who survived nomination against Lisa, and the same guy who last night ousted Nush. Not my definition of 'unpopular' by a long stretch.

'Very unpopular' suggests he has more people disliking him than actually like and/or support him, which clearly isn't the case -otherwise, he would have been evicted given all his nominations.

Whilst on the subject.....has anyone actually heard Cam preach from his bible to anyone in the house, or even qoute from it when he has been on his own. Since day 1 E4 has been on at least 3 tv's in this house 24/7 whilst the others flick to channel 4 at the appropriate times.... not a bible lesson heard!!!....By the way both my wife and I have bibles but we curse and swear and use threatening behaviour ....usually on a daily basis because of BB4...or the Kids... ..... does that make us as bad as Cam???

This argument has been shot down in flames so many times it's now got it's own fire station at Gatwick. The bottom line is, people are entitled to their opinion - negative or otherwise - and they are entitled to express it. They are also entitled to continue watching the show in the hope that it gets better and make comments if it doesn't.

Some of the HM's are a tad jealous of Cameron's trip to SA BUT they all had the opportunity to get to the DR first that morning. Most of the lads just carried on sleeping and the girls all refused to go to the DR for fear of what might await.

SO, if Ray, Scott, Steph or Nush had gone to SA would the editing have been different?

He has quoted from it, in the Diary Room.

On at least two occasions, Cam has been to the diary room to 'share' a reading from the bible with Big Brother (for Big Brother read the viewing public), and to let us know what he feels is the 'lesson' to be learned from the passage.