Everyone always says "he should go...he's playing the game" or "they've played the game well" or "they have been themselves and haven't played the game".

But what is exactly is the object of the BB game and how should it be played?

shut up, sit on the fence, pretend u fancy the blond flirty girl = u get in the final week

ie Scott - played it to perfection

I think he does fancy her but he is so unimotional it does not come across.
Another way to win is play the simple lad, do not drink, do not smoke, no not swear, read the bible need I say more.

Only 2 repsonses. Hmmm!! In other words, most people who watch BB but don't have any idea what the BB gameshow is really all about. I believe most people think it's a mere popularity contest. How shallow of them.

If people go in there so intent to make it to the final week, then I think they do have to play a game...
I suppose you have to not be too contraversial, as this gives people reasons to nominate/vote you out. You have to get on with everyone and be diplomatic. You need to be happy and flirty and participate in things.

Scott seems very vocal, in hoping no one is playing a game.

Care to enlighten us?

I think the object of the game is to be yourself, maintain perspective, forget about the viewing public, get along with all your HMs, regardless of the diverse personalities and backgrounds, to be honest, behave as a team player, deal with conflicts without bitching or back-stabbing.

'The Game' is what you make it my dear Shelley-welley-poo...

'The Game' is in that a person uses a strategy of sorts to make it to the last week rather than being 'themself'.

I'd say that in BB1 and 2 the winners did not play 'The Game' as such. They won for, as I remember, being themselves.

BB3 had several people playing 'The Game' (I find it hard to believe that Adele can be like that in real-life) and I think that Jonny was a prime example. It is arguable that Kate played a similar game to what Scott is playing now. Kate started to interact with the group a bit earlier on though but Scott certainly has played up a romance with Nush like Kate did with anything in pants err... I mean Peej.

I am just wondering, Shelley, why you pose a loaded question? It's quite obvious that you have your own opinion about your own qestion based on the initial post and the subsequently haughty response.

Do tell...

Thank you.

That would make for a very boring BB on the whole though wouldn't it? What would we all have to be fascinated/complain about then? They may as well just draw straws at the beginning for the 70 grand and have done with it.

But it is also a popularity contest along with all these things. Who votes for the winner at the end? Not the housemates.

It would only be a boring BB if the characters themselves are boring. If you had a dozen diverse characters, I peronally think it would be fascinating as I enjoy watching people and their varying interactions, misunderstandings, etc. You have to have good ingredients to start with. This year's BB has shown that. This year, all sorts of twists have been thrown into the melting pot to try and spice tings up, and almost all have failed. My favourite BB was BB2, because the characters were there. Hardly any gimmicks were introduced and none needed. Personally, I don't want to see people "acting" their way through 9 weeks. I want to get to know them and their relationships with 11 other people and see how they handle pressure, conflicting views, irritating habits, nomination honesty, BB rules, incarceration, being out of their comfort zones, lack of friends and family contact.

I don't ask loaded questions. I ask questions which I want to know the answer to. The reason I asked was because, reading the various threads on this forum, it occurred to me that too many contradictory statements are made. People want to be entertained but they don't want anyone to play to the cameras. When people are themselves and seem too nice, they are accused of being false and playing the game. Playing the game has become a negative phrase; a bad thing to do apparently. So I wanted to know "what is the game"? As viewers I am starting to wonder if we really know what the game is, do we care, and if we don't care, what are we complaining about.

Even that psych-woman says that Cam has a very good understanding of the game and has been playing it from the start....

The problem with the selection for a show like this is that you may think that you have the right mix but it turns out when you put them all together in the house that it just isn't there. The development of a group dynamic is nigh-on impossible to predict so I guess that they were unlucky this year. It had to happen sometime.

I think in theory the 13 housemates were considered to be a great bunch. To reduce the BB4 housemates to social archetypes would run something like this:

A bubbly though rather immature good time girl.
A possibly repressed, born again Christian.
An intelligent, mischevious, pedantic himbo.
A big, jolly chef.
A logic-oriented, bean counting intellectual.
A fat slag.
A strange agent provocateur lady arriving late in the game.
A faux-spiritual "sensitive" flowerchild.
A Neanderthal "lad".
A quiet, soulful "A Level deep and meaningful" young bloke.
An emotionally impulsive but rather fragile tomboy girl.
A divorced "Mrs. Middle England" type.
A shallow wannabe It girl.

However, it just didn't go to plan.

Very perceptive descriptions. You may well be right. One thing that occurred to me earlier: in the first 3 weeks, there was virtually no alcohol or food, due to the HMs failing the tasks. It isn't interesting to watch a group of people you barely know slowly starve and talk incessantly about food. That is maybe where BB went wrong this year. Perhaps the mix was right but BB played them wrong.

I think BB expected them to pass the first two tasks without problem.

Good point. Good old Maslow.

I think BB handled it wrong with the first night nominations and the housemates then ballsed it up by failing three tasks in a row.

Oh, Lisa isn't so much a strange agent provocateur lady. Now I think further she's more the classic "bar stool bullsh**ter." Mrs. Walter Mitty.

Right on both counts.

Lisa was also a narcisist.

Who he??

Do a Google on 'Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs'

The first couple of weeks were a perfect representation of his basic principles.

Sorry, was being lazy....

Basis is this....

1. Biological and Physiological needs - air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep, etc.

2. Safety needs - protection from elements, security, order, law, limits, stability, etc.

3. Belongingness and Love needs - work group, family, affection, relationships, etc.

4. Esteem needs - self-esteem, achievement, mastery, independence, status, dominance, prestige, managerial responsibility, etc.

5. Self-Actualisation needs - realising personal potential, self-fulfillment, seeking personal growth and peak experiences.

I think BB should be more demanding and strict with the hm's....
especially with live feeds......And I recon that the fact that BB is a game.....should not be denied by the hm's.....In fact, if they deny it they ought to face eviction in no uncertain terms.....

And anyway the program is SUPPOSED to be about US deciding

In fact I'd actively encourage the tickle to break more rules

We'd watch wouldn't we !! ??