In the libretto it refers to Nancy as being aged around 23. Obviously as some of you have said, that would be equivalent to late twenties/thirties now, hence, I guess, why the playing age was so broad. They were looking for somebody with a playing age between 17 and 35. I was surprised that so many from the bottom end of this scale went through but it'll be interesting to see what the comments are like.
Who is your favourite Nancy?
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Originally Posted by Mark Boden:
“And if you check the Bookies, Jodie is second from top at 6/1, with only the total professional, I've done this before, friends of DVO - Franceseca above her.
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“And if you check the Bookies, Jodie is second from top at 6/1, with only the total professional, I've done this before, friends of DVO - Franceseca above her.
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Originally Posted by lasity:
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Just out of interest where did you get those odds from? I have tried some of the well known betting sites and cant seem to find any odds on I'll Do Anything???”
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Just out of interest where did you get those odds from? I have tried some of the well known betting sites and cant seem to find any odds on I'll Do Anything???”
I'd like to know too please
EDIT: Just found out Coral have odds up
Sarah 4/1
Amy 6/1
Jodie 6/1
Tara 7/1
Jessie 8/1
Ashley 9/1
Francesca 9/1
Rachel 10/1
Cleopatra 14/1
Keisha 14/1
Niamh 14/1
Samantha 14/1
Originally Posted by Evilredzebra:
“In the libretto it refers to Nancy as being aged around 23. Obviously as some of you have said, that would be equivalent to late twenties/thirties now, hence, I guess, why the playing age was so broad. They were looking for somebody with a playing age between 17 and 35. I was surprised that so many from the bottom end of this scale went through but it'll be interesting to see what the comments are like.”
“In the libretto it refers to Nancy as being aged around 23. Obviously as some of you have said, that would be equivalent to late twenties/thirties now, hence, I guess, why the playing age was so broad. They were looking for somebody with a playing age between 17 and 35. I was surprised that so many from the bottom end of this scale went through but it'll be interesting to see what the comments are like.”
Well ALW didn't get his Justin Timberlake in Lee so maybe he wants a young Britney who has lived a little
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“From what we have seen so far I am liking:
Jesse
Sarah
Jodie
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“From what we have seen so far I am liking:
Jesse
Sarah
Jodie
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I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!”
“I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!
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How about an each way bet lol
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!”
“I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!
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Really? I would have put Sarah as one of the strongest voices! In a classic musical theatre way, I mean.
Originally Posted by Starryeyes:
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I though we were trying to find someone to 'act' the role?
I wasn't suggesting we find a Nancy with an abusive husband, just someone nearish the orginal age-range!”
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I though we were trying to find someone to 'act' the role?
I wasn't suggesting we find a Nancy with an abusive husband, just someone nearish the orginal age-range!”
But that is exactly the point 17 is the original age, as the book was written before any of the musicals or films.
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!”
“I put Sarah as she reminded me most of NancyNancy out of the ones remaining but I don't think her voice is strong enough but she is the the bookies favourite to win at the mo!
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You have not heard Sarah sing, I dont know if she is Nancy, but that is more of a physical thing, her voice is definitely strong enough as is her acting abilty, she is very good, you have yet to see her do her thing.
Originally Posted by playhousechick:
“But that is exactly the point 17 is the original age, as the book was written before any of the musicals or films.”
“But that is exactly the point 17 is the original age, as the book was written before any of the musicals or films.”
But what has that got to do with the background of the olivers?!
Originally Posted by playhousechick:
“But that is exactly the point 17 is the original age, as the book was written before any of the musicals or films.”
“But that is exactly the point 17 is the original age, as the book was written before any of the musicals or films.”
SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written. Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!
My guess is that although they want it to be played as the original we have to move with the times and take into account changes that have occured and that to find a Nancy at 17 that has been working most of her life or who can act that way without the experience is a very tall order!
Without doubt and worldy, older more experienced girl will be far better for the part and make it more believable.
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“True Nancy was 17 in the original Dickens novel but that was when life expectancy was very short. Most died at 40 years old. By todays life spans Nancy would be in her 30's !”
“True Nancy was 17 in the original Dickens novel but that was when life expectancy was very short. Most died at 40 years old. By todays life spans Nancy would be in her 30's !”
Hmm well I must admit that I never heard Andrew Slug Webber stating that it was a modern version with all of Fagins gang in hoodies and skateboarding, Bill Sikes selling smack and the Beadle running a paedophile brothel, or sports clothing manufacturers in China but then I try to switch off when webber is on, he makes my skin crawl.
If its set in the late 1800's then Nancys age will be 17 surely?
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“Well ALW didn't get his Justin Timberlake in Lee so maybe he wants a young Britney who has lived a little”
“Well ALW didn't get his Justin Timberlake in Lee so maybe he wants a young Britney who has lived a little
”
Didn't he say he wanted an Amy Swinehouse?
Originally Posted by M. Tourette:
“Didn't he say he wanted an Amy Swinehouse?”
“Didn't he say he wanted an Amy Swinehouse?”
Yes he did !
Can you see a 17 year old Amy Winehouse.....Errrrr NO !
Originally Posted by bigbazzer:
“SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating”
“SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating”
Heating invented by the Romans... next!
Originally Posted by bigbazzer:
“ and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written.”
“ and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written.”
Gaslight had been around for quit a while plus candlelight .... next
Originally Posted by bigbazzer:
“Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!”
“Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!”
You are only three metres away from a rat in London at any one time, and if your in a Lloyd Webber theatre........
Originally Posted by Starryeyes:
“But what has that got to do with the background of the olivers?!”
“But what has that got to do with the background of the olivers?!”
My point was nothing to do with Olivers background comment, I was refering to your point about finding a Nancy near the original age and 17 is the original age.
Originally Posted by M. Tourette:
“Heating invented by the Romans... next!
Gaslight had been around for quit a while plus candlelight .... next
You are only three metres away from a rat in London at any one time, and if your in a Lloyd Webber theatre........”
“Heating invented by the Romans... next!
Gaslight had been around for quit a while plus candlelight .... next
You are only three metres away from a rat in London at any one time, and if your in a Lloyd Webber theatre........”
That is exactly the point!
Lighting and heating would be by naked flame!
Health and Safety wouldnt allow the play to go on!
Things have to change with the times!
My favourite so far is Jessie - I was very glad when she got through.
I wonder if my opinion will change over the weeks!
I wonder if my opinion will change over the weeks!
Originally Posted by playhousechick:
“My point was nothing to do with Olivers background comment, I was refering to your point about finding a Nancy near the original age and 17 is the original age.”
“My point was nothing to do with Olivers background comment, I was refering to your point about finding a Nancy near the original age and 17 is the original age.”
Sorry I think we've both gotten confused. You quoted my response to someone talking about the backgrounds of the olivers, hence my response!
I was the one saying that we should stick to the Dickens age, although I do think MrSpeilberg has made some interesting points regarding the opposite.
Originally Posted by bigbazzer:
“SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written. Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!
My guess is that although they want it to be played as the original we have to move with the times and take into account changes that have occured and that to find a Nancy at 17 that has been working most of her life or who can act that way without the experience is a very tall order!
Without doubt and worldy, older more experienced girl will be far better for the part and make it more believable.”
“SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written. Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!
My guess is that although they want it to be played as the original we have to move with the times and take into account changes that have occured and that to find a Nancy at 17 that has been working most of her life or who can act that way without the experience is a very tall order!
Without doubt and worldy, older more experienced girl will be far better for the part and make it more believable.”
Guys Guys, you seem to be missing my point I am not saying its the right thing,i also agree that they Nancy should be played by someone in their mid twenties, and that to get a 17 year old, who can carry off being a prostitute and thief since she was about 5 years of age, struggling to eat and the closest thing to a father is Fagin, who God knows what he has made her do in the past but is practically her pimp is going to be almost impossible, but if there is any chance of finding it, then that is what they will go for. All through Nancy school, all ALW kept refering to was the book. That is what they want to go for, the darker side of the story not the cheesy tits and teeth musical numbers, a bit like what Polanski did with his version of the film, he was keeping as close to the book as possible, unlike previous versions.
Originally Posted by bigbazzer:
“SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written. Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!
My guess is that although they want it to be played as the original we have to move with the times and take into account changes that have occured and that to find a Nancy at 17 that has been working most of her life or who can act that way without the experience is a very tall order!
Without doubt and worldy, older more experienced girl will be far better for the part and make it more believable.”
“SO if they are trying to cbe ompletely the same as the book then you better hope the public will be happy with no heating and no lighting as that wasnt around when the book was written. Oh and best throw a few rats in the audience too while we are at it!
My guess is that although they want it to be played as the original we have to move with the times and take into account changes that have occured and that to find a Nancy at 17 that has been working most of her life or who can act that way without the experience is a very tall order!
Without doubt and worldy, older more experienced girl will be far better for the part and make it more believable.”
Yes they want the stage and set to be just as it is described in the book, not the Auditorium, Its not real mate, its a story and the audience are WATCHING the story, and watching the actors exeriences, bloody hell you dont go and see Sweeny Todd and expect to get your throat cut do ya????
Originally Posted by M. Tourette:
“Didn't he say he wanted an Amy Swinehouse?”
“Didn't he say he wanted an Amy Swinehouse?”
Yes!
Forgot that
Do you think he just throws these names in randomly to show he is keeping up with the pop world?
Originally Posted by playhousechick:
“You have not heard Sarah sing, I dont know if she is Nancy, but that is more of a physical thing, her voice is definitely strong enough as is her acting abilty, she is very good, you have yet to see her do her thing.”
“You have not heard Sarah sing, I dont know if she is Nancy, but that is more of a physical thing, her voice is definitely strong enough as is her acting abilty, she is very good, you have yet to see her do her thing.”
I was just going by the auditions which don't really show their capability as she wasn't featured as much on the shows as the likes of Jodie and Jessie.
As I said she just reminded me of NancyNancy, a sort of sweet blonde wavy haired girl
Maybe I should stick with my first impression of her then (along with Jessie and the wild Jodie).
Originally Posted by playhousechick:
“Yes they want the stage and set to be just as it is described in the book, not the Auditorium, Its not real mate, its a story and the audience are WATCHING the story, and watching the actors exeriences, bloody hell you dont go and see Sweeny Todd and expect to get your throat cut do ya????”
“Yes they want the stage and set to be just as it is described in the book, not the Auditorium, Its not real mate, its a story and the audience are WATCHING the story, and watching the actors exeriences, bloody hell you dont go and see Sweeny Todd and expect to get your throat cut do ya????”
The point Im trying to make is it is an ACT!
The actors and actresses need to act and to act in a believable way. As you have previosuly said you would think mid twenties would be a good age!
So we are somewhat agreeing in a roundabout way that 17 is way too young for an actress in 2008 to play the part of Nancy!
Originally Posted by Starryeyes:
“Sorry I think we've both gotten confused. You quoted my response to someone talking about the backgrounds of the olivers, hence my response!
I was the one saying that we should stick to the Dickens age, although I do think MrSpeilberg has made some interesting points regarding the opposite.”
“Sorry I think we've both gotten confused. You quoted my response to someone talking about the backgrounds of the olivers, hence my response!
I was the one saying that we should stick to the Dickens age, although I do think MrSpeilberg has made some interesting points regarding the opposite.”
I get ya, my BAD!!!! Sorry
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“I was just going by the auditions which don't really show their capability as she wasn't featured as much on the shows as the likes of Jodie and Jessie.
As I said she just reminded me of NancyNancy, a sort of sweet blonde wavy haired girl
Maybe I should stick with my first impression of her then (along with Jessie and the wild Jodie).”
“I was just going by the auditions which don't really show their capability as she wasn't featured as much on the shows as the likes of Jodie and Jessie.
As I said she just reminded me of NancyNancy, a sort of sweet blonde wavy haired girl
Maybe I should stick with my first impression of her then (along with Jessie and the wild Jodie).”
You are absolutely right, they have not featured a lot of the final 12 properly, thats what will be good to see who can pull it out of the bag on the live shows, they may be used to live theatre, but with added pressure of cameras, and the millions of viewing public, we might see some buckle, then again we might not!!!!
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