As a BB fan I am totally bored, as i expect many others, with this series. Its a failure from ch4's point of view, that much is obvious.

But the point is this, whilst reality tv used to be a refreshingly different format of television, the novelty has now worn off, and the show must evolve!.

If I could actually input on the making of this show the first thing i would do is remove those hour long sunday shows, where we hear complete bozos telling us about the housemate's sleeping patterns, how they cross their hands, etc. Those psychologists really have no entertainment value. I hate seeing a job done badly, the 10 pm edits are really quite poor also.

Part of the show that does work is the live tasks. Their is no doubt in my mind that the housemates should be set a live televised challenge each night, with clever tasks set for them- mind games that will stimulate the viewers. This aspect of human behaviour is far more interesting. Everyone can remember their favourite school teacher, and my economics teacher was just that. He would force us to make decisions in classroom games that would have you thinking about it for days afterwards.

Even a live physical challenge can be fun if well planned

I wont be watching that toddle tonight anyway.

The Sunday shopw used to be very informative...since they decided to dumb it down to pop psychology and the editiroial bias it's lost it's way a bit......

the live tasks - or challanges work well, are you kidding? I think this year that the live tasks have being somewhat lacking. Last year I thought that tasks were bad, but at least they MATTERED. This year the reward room has largely being for a few hours & then it was over.

If you think they should have live tasks every night, then you are missing a fundamental point of thje program, we are watching people for the most part go through normal daily activities. These are almost by defination mundane, how many times can you watch someone eat breakfast & find it interesting?

The best bit s of BB are the spontanious things the hms do. This year they have been few & far between & BB should take steps to encourage these to happen.

I think next year the first two tasks need to be greyer, in that it is BB opinion which determins the pass or fail. That way we are more likely to get the pass & the inhibition removing alcohol in the early weeks.

The Saturday tasks need a rethink.

The rest of the time the hms should be left to their own devices.

I actually think the Sunday show is probably the only part of BB4 that has been worth watching.

The nightly 10pm shows are very bland, as the housemates simply don't do enough interesting things in 24 hours to fill a 30 minute slot.

BBLB is a total farce and has turned into little more than Dermot exposing that he is actually a frustrated ballet dancer.

E4 live feeds are only good if yousuffer from insomnia, as 95% of the time all you see is them sleeping, sunbathing, reading, eating and in Scott's case nose picking.

The eviction shows are the worst yet, as Davina seems to have lost the plot, and is giving the evictees far too easy a time and avoiding asking the questions most of us want to hear answered.

I agree the amateur rubbish shown on a Sunday should have been axed.

I would like to have seen the eviction interview much longer and in more depth. The half hour highlights show shown on a Friday could be moved to the weekend.

Channel 4's argument that the housemate is overwhelmed as they have been isolated and thus can only do a 15-20-minute interview is tosh! The housemates are in the house because they want media exposure - if they can't hack it, they shouldn't have applied.

A longer interview last Friday would have meant nush would have been asked more in depth about why she told Scott to his face that she fancied him and then told us that she didn't. (Which one was the lie?) They made enough of a deal about that while she was in the house, why not in the interview? She wasn't asked her take on Lisa, on Gae... they didn't even tell her about Gae claiming to have slept with her! (Although it flashed up as a newspaper headline briefly, but she had no reaction so may not have seen it.)

Many interesting topics were ignored because of the shortness of the interview - the eviction interview should be double the length it is!

GMGURU I don't understand your point at all.... you are saying we should watch someone doing the washing up on a 10 pm edit because that is the fundamental point of the program?...the point of the program is to entertain, and it must evolve to achieve this

watching the housemates do mundane things is utterly unenjoyable to watch. Obviously you dont have access to the viewer ratings, because the live tasks attract a bigger audience than their biased/boring edits

The live tasks dont have to take the same reward room format.

here is a little example for you: (PLEASE FOLLOW- U MIGHT FIND IT INTERESTING)

You join the house live, and they are playing for their weekly shoping budget.

Each are called into the diary room one by one, and are told that they have two options...''risk'' or ''safe''

BB explains to the individual housemate in the diary room that if all the housemates choose ''safe'' then they will recieve a conservative shopping budget of, let's say, £50 for the group.

If one housemate chooses ''risk'', whilst all the other's choose safe, then they win a bonanza shopping budget of, let's say £400 for the group.

HOWEVER, if more than two choose risk, they recieve nothing for their weekly budget.

When a housemate is briefed on the game and has made their choice, they exit the diary room and go straight to seclusion in a bedroom so they CANNOT communicate. Each housemate who makkes their decision will have no idea how the other housemates reacted to the choices, but will be tempted to enter ''risk'' as their choice. The likely scenario is that two or more risk takers will forfeit the shopping budget for the entire group

Tell me what you think of the above dilemma. This is what will make interesting television. I think it would be fascinating to tune into stuff like this.

OK I agree the show must evolve, but I'm also a firm believer in "what happens, happens".

This year the hms have failed to spark, & the Saturday challanges have no series consequences, therefore when the hms were forced to make choices about who to exclude it wasn't seen by the hms as a big deal. Contrast that with last year where there was plently of sparks & friction between the hms, & the choices mattered.
BB actually had less gimmicks & set pieces last year as they were not needed. This year they were.

You task is interesting enough, but it would probabaly been seen as dumb luck by the hms & if they didn't know who voted which way, not likely to create any resentment or friction between the hms. Even if they did know who made what choice as it would be seen as "BB trying to devide them".

The choice of hms is everything, they make the differnce between an OK series (BB4) and a huge series (BB3/2). If the choice is correct, then any arguments or friction will come from within the group & that is much more difficult or even impossible for the hms to shrug off as "BB stiring".

People want a little drama, & for drama you generally need a little conflict / tension / suspense. Your task would intoduce some on that, but only the first time, tasks every night would generate task fatuge(sp?). Mind you it might work for just one week.

Referring you you first sentence, Endemol has always said, they if the hms have had a quiet dull day, then that is what will be reported. This year we have had a few too many "quiet dull days".

'Nasty' Nick Bateman already did a version of the 'prisoner's dilemma' to death in his show, 'Trust Me'. It didn't really work.

Yes, I cannot fathom how on earth some of them were picked.

Let's take Sissy for example. One of the weakest characters in BB history. Nush was incredibly bland, as was Gos. Tania was a case of ''let's just have a pretty girl in there''

Davina is terrible
Her enthusiasm is reaching desperate levels on eviction night....
''Nush is evicted'' - who bloody cares

I am probably in a minority of one here, but I would prefer it if "back to basics" really meant just that. There should be no tasks or reward rooms at all. No books allowed. No subject for conversation is taboo. One hour of music every night. £150 weekly budget. The only entertainment that I have ever got (or ever will get) from Big Brother is interaction between HM's and watching the shifting group dynamic. Every gimmick this year has failed, including the reintroduction of Jon ( that was mission impossible from the start).
Sealed environment, alcohol and nothing to do but deal with each other....that's what I want.

I agree with some points the selection of certain housemates, cuz people like sissy, nush, tania and gos were either not strong enough or just bad tv like scott.

The only housemates that i would have chosen would have been jon, fed , lisa, ray and maybe cameron.

the saturday live taks were dreadful - my abiding memory would be all the HM's jumping up and down and shreiking when they won and entered a room. Although there's been some good moments. I enjoyed Jons victory lap round the table and divebomb on the sofa after getting a question right, Fed on the martial arts game in the reward room..noiw i'm struggling

Watching her on BBLB, I get the impression it was the people around Nush who made her dull. She needs people to bounce off of.

My belief is that Cameron, Steph, and Gos have sucked all the life out of BB, Cam is an oppressive influence, Steph is the most boring woman on the planet, and Gos slept and said "innit mate" alot.

Whereas Dean and Liz allowed other HM's to be themselves, the Cam/Steph/Gos alliance insisted on being super-dull.

spot on side comments from hm reveal that cam does constantly control them. I mean they had some fun in the head of house week with Cam not being there, yesterday he was there, giving quotes about smoking and bronchitis. resulting in the most boring party EVER.


Gos stopped all fights and was in the Cam group and Steph, well its Steph human siren on speed

Agreed. Gos is actually my least favourite housemate of all time, and I don't even dislike him. Steph and Cameron suck energy at will. One roll of Cameron's eyes and the life support system is on red alert. It's very passive -aggressive, dispiriting and disheartening. Steph just drains the will to live of those around her, by screeching incessantly and talking a great deal- about nothing !
What a trio

I can't believe so many people moan so much about individual housemates. For me, BB is about how the group interact with eachother. Whether I happen to like a particular housemate or not is irrelevent. They all add something in their individual ways, and that is what I watch for. Sure, everybody has their favourites, but I don't understand why there is so much moaning about people's non-favourites. Even 'bad' people bring out good things in other people.
As far as I'm concerned, Endemol could just pick 12 applicants out of a hat and put them in the house and I'd be just as happy.

Actually I completely agree with that statement.If only they had done just that ! Unfortunately this year's HM's were handpicked to further C4's agenda of moving away from last year's "uncovered" atmosphere, and it's backfired big time. Setting an age limit of say, 20-35 , 6 males six females, all single,and then just picking the HM's lottery style would suit me.