The incredibly perceptive Steph strikes again, this time correctly analysing her own character. Listening to some of her conversations, I'd say she went braindead some time ago.

Without wanting to start a debate about a highly sensitive subject, have to say Stephs view on abortion 'you make your bed you lie in it' seems to sum up her Daily Mail reader attitude.

I wish people would make up their minds about Steph. One minute she is a tactical genius that has single handedly manipulated the housemates and the public into getting her into the final four and the next minute she is a dumbest person in the house.

"I think I'm going braindead or summink"

Well lets hope she's right aye.

Agreed. Basically anti-Steph people say she's a tactical genius when they want to say THAT's a bad thing, then say she's thick when they want to say THAT's a bad thing. Whatever makes the girl look bad.

There's a difference, I think, between intellectual and emotional intelligence. Being great at Trivial Pursuit doesn't necessarily make you an intelligent person.

Steph is very emotionally intelligent - I'm still impressed by her conduct on the very first night. On an intellectual, knowledge-centred basis, she's somewhat lacking.

No, I've just disliked the thing from the start. My opinion hasn't changed at all. Yes she is tactcal but stupid with it so her tactics are just plain obvious. She's just a spiteful hateful horrible person. Insensitive and duplicitous. There is nothing about her to like, not one redeeming feature. Next to Sissy she would have been my choice to leave the house during those first two weeks.

Well said Monkey !!!

I think she's an opportunist more than a tactician; she uses situations to her advantage whenever the opportunity arises.
You don't have to be intelligent at all to manipulate people; even Jade was pretty good at that, while Kate made up for what she lacked in intellect with considerable savvy.
Slyness and intelligence are two different things.

Steph is a non-entity who is only able to get noticed by default.

And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

steph is the cleaner c4 just doesnt admit it, that she fell in the diary room on opening day and didnt leave in time for the original hm to arrive. Gos is actually part of the catering crew for the production team, who didnt get in time either.

Ray must be the handyman then.

The idea that conning Ray involves genius-level tactics!

Maybe the final twist is that they say hey that these were the training hm, they kick everybody out of the USA house and bring the real contestants in.

YOU might see through her 'tactics' (which I STILL don't believe to be tactics, but let's assume they are) but clearly a good 80+% of the public have NOT voted for her to be evicted the 2 times she's been up for eviction and Ray didn't nominate her when she put the waterworks on. So that's 80% of the public AND Ray that don't see through her 'plain obvious' tactics. Her tactics have seen of NINE other contestants and brought her into the final 4. CLEARLY better tactics than people like Nick and Adele employed.

But on the other hand, I still maintain that Steph does not use tactics at all. If the same had happened to her last Sunday in a NON-competitive environment, she'd no doubt have reacted exactly the same way and looked for sympathy from the easiest bloke...

Did she actually say that???

How can she justify divorce then??? Urgh... disliking her even more now...

Well, you have to lie in your bed to get in that situation, of course.

But I reckon she meant that in the nicest possible way.

Imagine Steph as Editor of the Daily Mail:

"Kick out all the asylum seekers...in the nicest possible way"

"Celebrity is Love Rat...not meaning to be horrible"

"Gays are scum!...not being homophobic or anythink"

LOL
and Cameron was the chaplain called in to give the last rights to a dying Big Brother game show

agreed

i don't think she has the 'intelligence' to be much of a tactician but she certainly makes up for that with 'animal-cunning' and an acute eye for circumstances/people who can be exploited and manipulated to her ends. in her case the ends far from justify the means

her kind of lack of reasoned intelligence combined with ignorance and the sly ability to present an adaptable facade to suit the company/situation is a noxious mix add to that her self-regarding ruthlessness and i for one don't want her to be the kind of person vindicated by percieved public validation!

the only positive point i can see in regards to steph is that had she not been in the house then cameron (who is intelligent and a tactician) may have been able to maintain his "dork from ork" facade for longer. as it was, i believe in each other they found poisonous-accord which resulted in cam's mask slipping...it's a pity that because of BB edit's it may well be too late to provide the serum for their combined venom!

Yep, she said it. They were discussing abortion. Both Jon and Scott said they were pro-choice and each case should be judged as seperate, Ray said his catholic views meant he was not for abortion except for in rape, Cam said nothing and she came up with that little gem.
Now even if she doesnt agree with abortion, not the msot senitive arguement is it?

Must admit, I thought the same about her divorce.

Steph's comment 'you make your bed you lie in it' re abortion may have been an emotional response more to do with herself than any thought out considered response to the subject.

I say this because I think she currently views everything from a self prespective ( due to the pressure and intent of wanting to win the BB4 Winner title)
Therefore what she said translated to me as Steph (subconsciously) to mean that she would never get rid of a baby herself, just in case.(no-one came along again! )

now would that be the Jon some people elsewhere are now trying to label as fascist because of one of his 'Tickle-Tongue-In-Cheek' moments?

sorry charleah, didn't mean to take your main point (re: steph) off-skew

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i doubt very much if Steph has given any real thought to ethical/moral/wider issues in her entire self-regarding, insular little life...couple that with her general lack of compassion, her ignorance and "ooooooohhh did you hear about mrs-so-and-so" tendancies and it wouldn't surprise me to hear that wearing a short-skirt and falling pregnant after a rape also constituted 'lying in your own bed' in steph's world.

and cam's silence speaks volumes

Therefore what she said translated to me as Steph (subconsciously) to mean that she would never get rid of a baby herself, just in case.(no-one came along again! )

Nice one

I can not believe Steph is being slated for lack of intelligence when the above is an example of the intelligence of some of those on this forum.

Steph's quote, whilst not exactly shedding much intellectual light on the subject, was a quote relating to the topic, that is, abortion.

You simply can not take a quote on a particular subject out of context and apply it to situations which are unrelated.

Sorry but where exactly does my quote state anything about Stephs intelligence one way or the other?

You know nothing about me, my views or my intelligence as I havent put myself up on a tv show to be judged by the public.

Please tell me exactly how I have taken her quote out of context and applied it in an unrelated way.

Really?