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What did Jon say about his political views?
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violaine
20-07-2003
Some people on the C4 forums are posting that Jon has said he's very right wing and almost facist. I don't have E4 and there doesn't seem to be any live updates for today on this site yet, so can anyone tell me what was actually said, or has it been exaggerated?
Jaded
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
Some people on the C4 forums are posting that Jon has said he's very right wing and almost facist. I don't have E4 and there doesn't seem to be any live updates for today on this site yet, so can anyone tell me what was actually said, or has it been exaggerated? ”

Knowing the C4 forum I imagine it's something along the lines of:
"JON IS NOT FIT!" (to run a utopian socialist republic)

I like Jon, but he does have some pretty retro attitudes towards women, women working, and why they should be paid less. than men.

He's also made some naive statements about Europe and the Euro, but what do you expect from a white collar number cruncher from Staines?

But compared with Cameron he's Noam Chomsky...
Jason C
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
there doesn't seem to be any live updates for today on this site yet”

So I've just been transcribing the last hour and three-quarters of crap from the BB house for my own benefit, have I?
The_Green_Man
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
Some people on the C4 forums are posting that Jon has said he's very right wing and almost facist. I don't have E4 and there doesn't seem to be any live updates for today on this site yet, so can anyone tell me what was actually said, or has it been exaggerated? ”


He did say that. It was a joke. He said it when the task was revealed and the hms were told they would be asked political questions.

I see the Jon haters are out in force again.
Voice of Reason
20-07-2003
According to this , "on Wednesday each housemate will be tested on their ability to judge their fellow housemates' values and opinions. "I'm as right wing as they come, almost fascist," Jon quipped when he heard this news.". I didn't hear it, so can't say if it was quoted out of context or not.

VoR
violaine
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by The_Green_Man
He did say that. It was a joke. He said it when the task was revealed and the hms were told they would be asked political questions.

I see the Jon haters are out in force again.
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I am NOT a Jon Hater! He's my favourite contestant by far, which is why I was concerned that people on the C4 forum might be misrepresenting what he said to make him look bad!

And Jason C, I'm sorry but every time I click on the LIve Updates for day 59 nothing comes up; it wasn't a criticism of you! Maybe it's just my browser that's faulty.

I'd like to make it clear that I LOVE Jon, and I just wanted to find out the truth about what was said because I was worried he might be being misrepresented by people on the other forum. Please don't hate me.
Jason C
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
And Jason C, I'm sorry but every time I click on the LIve Updates for day 59 nothing comes up; it wasn't a criticism of you! Maybe it's just my computer that's faulty. ”

Yeah; sorry, I shouldn't have bitten your head off - it was the result of a rough afternoon.
The_Green_Man
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
I am NOT a Jon Hater! He's my favourite contestant by far, which is why I was concerned that people on the C4 forum might be misrepresenting what he said to make him look bad!
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I was not referring to you! I referring to those to which you referred!

As Voice of Reason has stated, the fact that Jon's announcement was a joke is on the official site.
violaine
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Jason C
Yeah; sorry, I shouldn't have bitten your head off - it was the result of a rough afternoon. ”

Apology accepted .Sorry to hear you're having a rough day.
I'd like to say that I really appreciate the Live Updates as well, I read them every day I go online because you can't rely on the biased C4 site to tell the whole story.
violaine
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by The_Green_Man
I was not referring to you! I referring to those to which you referred!

As Voice of Reason has stated, the fact that Jon's announcement was a joke is on the official site.
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Sorry I didn't realise. I feel silly now
F'kinRight
20-07-2003
I have, right up until this moment, been about the biggest Jon fans going. However if he really mean't the "I'm as right wing as they come, almost fascist", the little boring **** can rot in hell!!!

He should f'ck off to the USA or something and not come back!!
:yawn:
The_Green_Man
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
Sorry I didn't realise. I feel silly now ”

No problem - I should have explained better!
The_Green_Man
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by F'kinRight
I have, right up until this moment, been about the biggest Jon fans going. However if he really mean't the "I'm as right wing as they come, almost fascist", the little boring **** can rot in hell!!!

He should f'ck off to the USA or something and not come back!!
:yawn:
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LOL! It was a joke. It's on the official site.
stuartfanning
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by F'kinRight


He should f'ck off to the USA or something and not come back!!
:yawn: [/b]”

Excuse me! Does this comment have some relevance?
F'kinRight
20-07-2003
I don't think it was a joke Green Man. I'm over him - big time! Just looking at his ugly mug on the left of the screen now makes me cringe!
F'kinRight
20-07-2003
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“Excuse me! Does this comment have some relevance?”

What!!?
charleah
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by violaine
Some people on the C4 forums are posting that Jon has said he's very right wing and almost facist. ”

Did Stephs eyes light up when he said it?
matt.b
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by F'kinRight
I don't think it was a joke Green Man. I'm over him - big time! Just looking at his ugly mug on the left of the screen now makes me cringe! ”

every attempt dissing jon will be retaliated with some serious cam dissing.

now think he is half-black, can he be fascist

I am btw a deep admirer of your services

The F'cking Lot best services line on the forum
Deerd
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by F'kinRight
I don't think it was a joke Green Man. I'm over him - big time! Just looking at his ugly mug on the left of the screen now makes me cringe! ”

maybe BB should have given Jon BIG smilie cards to hold up for the less peceptive spectator - he'd definately need a TONGUE IN CHEEK one...

...tho it's going to be fun on Wednesday to see which hms respond to the question "what term would you best say reflects Jon's political viewpoint/where on the political spectrum is Jon?"...bet the less perceptive (meaning all bar Scott - tho cam would know Jon didn't mean it but pretend he did to make Jon look bad) would all answer with almost the exact words Jon used...hook, line and sinker!

i don't expect many of the hms to get Jon and certainly not cam-fans but, F'kinRight how can you say you were a Jon fan and STILL NOT GET HIM?
F'kinRight
20-07-2003
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“now think he is half-black, can he be fascist”

Er, can't say I understand the question. Are you saying race dictates political views? If he says he's right wing and fascist then there's a good chance he is. End of story.

Dis who you like Matt - why should it bother me?
gazza71
20-07-2003
He almost certainly votes conservative if he does vote at all. What with the tories being so evil, that may put some people off. People are rather silly like that.

I think the fascist comment was probably him joking... Yer know.
matt.b
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by F'kinRight

Dis who you like Matt - why should it bother me?”


DONT TAKE IT SO F'CKING SERIOUS

CHILL MAN
F'kinRight
20-07-2003
F'kin hell
Stephanos
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by The_Green_Man
LOL! It was a joke. It's on the official site. ”

Double standards again

So every time Jon says something offensive it's just a joke but any other HM making a bitchy or offensive remark and it's a criminal offence worthy of corporal or capital punishment.

Respect to those Jon fans who have a less blinkered view of things and admit that he too has his dark side.

Jon = Saint, Cam = Devil brigade = bigotted, hate-fuelled fanatics.

Come to think of it. Isn't that the seeds of fascism
The_Green_Man
20-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Poo Poo
Double standards again

So every time Jon says something offensive it's just a joke but any other HM making a bitchy or offensive remark and it's a criminal offence worthy of corporal or capital punishment.

Respect to those Jon fans who have a less blinkered view of things and admit that he too has his dark side.

Jon = Saint, Cam = Devil brigade = bigotted, hate-fuelled fanatics.

Come to think of it. Isn't that the seeds of fascism
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I don't think you understand the meaning of the term 'double standards'. It does not apply here. Jon made a joke, the official site reported it, I referred a poster to the official site.

As for blinkered views... You are actually the one who is trying to read a negative into the posts you don't agree with!
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