Reading the E4 text message ticker proclaiming 'Cam is great', 'Cam to win' etc, I really wonder what anyone can find appealing about Cameron. If someone can provide some examples and give me some insight then I would truly appreciate it, because I am at a loss.

All I see, is a square 30 something who is getting old before his time, with no fashion sense, a dreadful accent which I would have expected his travelled lifestyle and uni education to have knocked out of him, who feels inadequate and inhibited about his body - hence the need to never take his top off in public - most unusual in a man, who cannot enjoy himself - and I don't mean needing to get drunk to do so, and finally who doesn't keep himself in shape! I won't even go into the finer points of his character!!

Surely, it can't be the teenies voting for him, he isn't cool or trendy enough and I know he is supposedly the housewife's favourite, but he is just too square and uptight! If I fit into any category, it would be begrudingly the last one - and I wouldn't be voting for him!!

Someone enlighten me please!!?

Wonder what you see in Beckham

Its a betting scam supported by a couple of low lifes, that seems to be the best explanation so far.

My next door neighbour is a Cam lover (shes even been up to an eviction night) so I asked her.

She said 'hes lovely is Cam. Such a polite, well mannered young man. Him and Steph would make a lovely couple, so much more moral thatn most of the youngsters today'.

See care in the community just isnt working is it?

A FAT RICH VIRGIN WHO ISN'T MARRIED!! - AND THAT'S JUST THE BLOKES!

Well I suppose that it's about time we had a thread slagging of Cameron. We haven't had once since at least.... the last thread...

i suggest moving

im also requesting a DNA transfer to a more intelligent species. Amoebas spring to mind here. The GBP believes everything. Galton was right after all

Can you feel safe in a society were Cam wins

The answer is obviously NO

Somebody mentioned in another thread that Cameron represented the "anti-lad". If you compare him to the previous BB winners -- Craig, Brian and Kate -- he has none of their exuberance, flamboyance or spontaneity.

It may well be the case that the public, as opposed to this forum, are yearning for somebody who is cut from a different cloth and breaks the well-trodden path. Perhaps blandness has a certain appeal if only because it appears superficially harmless and non-threatening. Whether or not that would make Cameron a worthy winner is the core of the issue and the cause of many an argument on this forum ofc.

I, myself, took a liking to Steph from day one simply because I prefer a bubbly character but also appreciated her down-to-earth housewife attributes -- I'm one year older than her so the age gap is almost non-existent -- and that made an interesting mix. I could imagine being with somebody like her; not necessarily in terms of a relationship but simply living with. It could be the case that Cameron represents something similar with his own fans; you would have to ask them to find out.

Surprisingly well said, father! A nice slant on an over-done topic.

Have you thought of doing a guest column?

It's not the teenie-boppers texting in for Cameron - it's all those senior citizens who had free lessons on how to text!

Well I wouldn't want to be wearing a suit made from Cameron cloth - but that's a different story!

Surely the public that like 'bland' aren't going to be texting into E4 though, they probably don't even know how to send a text and have still got one of those phones the size of a brick!! Unlike me of course, who has got one of those snazzy camera phones in the O2 ads!!

Thanks for the compliment, MacattacK

I was a latecomer to this forum, sadly, and only joined a few weeks ago. Regrettably, I don't think I would have sufficient passion to do a guest column. Some of the other forum members here would far more qualified than myself. But thanks for the kind words all the same

Well the more these idiots text in to E4 the less money they have to vote Camoron to win which can only be a good thing.

Assuming Cameron has actually seen the previous series of Big Brother, I am STUNNED he applied for it at all. Last year they were in and out of each other's beds like a relay race, there was the night of demonstrating as many sexual positions as they could think of, getting pissed off their heads as often as they could, stripping down to next to nothing or nothing if you count Jade's finest moment last year. In BB1 they were naked and covering themselves in paint to make "art", and it was all fairly racey in BB2 with Brian at co. I cannot see him surviving one week with any of the previous lot..... they would have eaten him for breakfast. I could almost make the same point about Steph ( I am not a sexual person..... I am old fashioned.... I dont get picked up) !!!!!!!!! She would have been utterly out of her depth with the shenannigans of previous series. It would be nice to hear from both of them exactly WHY they felt the need to apply for BB. For a man as well travelled as Cameron, who has lived abroad and is obviously an intelligent man, he lives a very socially sad existence it seems to be. He has issues with intimacy that really could do with some serious therapy, and perhaps he could finally start living a normal adult life.

*SIGH*

Ah sweet reminiscence...

LOL!

And there you have hit the nail on the head celticgirl.

For a great many people he's an enigma.Why would a man like that apply ???.Is he for "real" and if he is what's the "story" behind his sexual abstinence and lifestyle.
Anyone who labels him a bore really should look at the massive amounts of posts this man has inspired ...good and bad.Ten times more than any other HM , mostly because people sense there is "something" some story behind this guy.
Even his fans aren't sure what it is they find appealing .
I'm normally very astute but really can't pin this man down or begin to understand his motives .I sense that he could be a very powerful man .One things for sure ...he's no Orkney dork.
Given a better choice of Hm's I'm sure he would be long gone ,but given the competition this year he has undoubtedly "stood out" wether you argue that its for the right or the wrong reasons.

in the thread ~
C4 editing/other issues of tonights's show...... (of 23/06/03)

zzenzero said~

cameron is now a hero

Like it or not, Cameron HAS now become a star of BB4.

We know he's the housewife's choice.
He's getting a lot of Scottish support.
He's getting incredible amount of teeny support on the awful mobile
texters...he's far more popular than Gae still.
We know Endemol etc love him
Dermot either loves him too or is shit scared of his bosses.
The HMs (Ray,Tanya excluded) adore him.

I hate Cameron's guts but must sadly admit, he is now THE STAR of
BB4...by a country mile.

Whether he wins or not Cameron is as a legend as our Jon and is
guaranteed media work for life.

As I watched the CH4 highlights tonight, my god, I was under his spell! My
wife adores him and my sister-in-law. If you can't beat Cameron, may as
well join him. Will make my household happier.

Off to my doctor's tomorrow.


thanks zzenzero could not have put it better myself
thms cameron's unofficial 'cam-pain' manager

Couldn't it just be that he's different? Not everyone has the same tastes and views on intimacy, and to suggest he needs therapy for it is absurd, and very scary indeed. Not everyone is a clone, and to suggest making people that way so they conform to an idea of normality is frightening. Who would define it? You?

A close friend and colleague of mine appeared on BBLB today saying how much she liked Cameron, even though she's starting to have a soft spot for Ray. I have just sent her an email pointing out the evidence that Cameron is a 'player'. This is:

1. He has a brother in media who is well aware of the buttons Cameron should press to appeal to an audience. This man is coached.

2. Cameron's facade is as insubstantial as his accent - he is a successful and very worldly and well-travelled businessman who has lived and worked in St Etienne, Seville, New York and Brussels, and has visited Africa before BB sent him there - in fact he is the ONLY BB HM who is familiar with Africa so how coincidental that he just happened to be passing the diary room when.....

3. In analysing his handwriting, the graphologist pointed to his knotted version of the letter 'o'. Although the graphologist was discreet on this feature and said it was shrewdness, the layman interpretation of this feature is 'liar'. I know. I write about this stuff, and wouldn't go anywhere near someone who knots the tops of their a and o.

4. The accent, which I've alluded to in 2, is not exactly phoney, but is exaggerated almost to the point of caricature. Listen to his mother's soft accent and compare. And bear in mind that this man was educated at Edinburgh University, and can speak many European languages, and would have to speak in clear English when making deals. Really, is this believable?

5. He is a man given to exaggerated expressions of distaste and anger, when riled. He just hates people, and discounts them, and feels himself above them. He really isn't very empathetic or kindly, is a fierce gossip, has far too many secret body-language expressions of disapproval and is betraying his real, critical, nature by his gesture.

6. He is a prude. Sorry, but in my book, that's an offence. A man who hates other people's bodies is just about OK, but a man who carries it to the extreme of never revealing his own body, even his chest to his HMs is someone who despises flesh, surely? And that he could wipe a friend's kiss off his face is very very sick

Conclusion - Cameron is not someone I'd wish my son to fall in love with

Well, all of that may be the case - but my question still remains unanswered - what do people see in him??

It seems that no-one can answer it, with the others, even though I may not personally favour them, I can at least see that they may appeal to others, with Cameron I cannot see how or where he fits in!

Actually, come to think of it, he was the sort of geeky nerd that I would get fancying me at school - you know, the one who you never wanted to dance with at the school disco!

Indeed. Unfortunately therapy, as suggested, has been inflicted on people for decades because they don't fit a model of "normality" - something that does not exist. People have been carted off to "therapists" because they are gay, artistic, or for simply being female (still a crime to many men!).

It's depressing to read that even in the 21st Century anyone who isn't regarded as "normal" (whatever that might mean) must be a target for some sort of corrective therapy.

My answers might be hotly disputed but I like him because he is sweet, a gentleman, good sense of humour, friendly, caring, considerate, honest, easy going, calm and doesn't need to get pissed to have fun.

Of course most people here will disagree with every single bit of that, but you wanted an answer

Thank you! If you think that then, how do you rationalise the disgusting and ongoing hateful campaign about Lisa, the equally obnoxious comments about Jon and his shampoo/shoes, and the all too regular comments about strangling and suffocating people?

I am not aware that any of the others, who are obviously not without their own faults, have been quite so vicious in their comments!

Well if you watch E4 in depth then you'll agree that for every one of the points you make, then there is footage avalliable to argue the exact opposite of what you have posted.