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I need help! ... the iPhone.. :(
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jonnylyons
27-03-2008
Im going for it!

This is a very useful like I found...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=457556
chocolate_boy
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by jonnylyons:
“Im going for it!

This is a very useful like I found...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=457556”

Nice one jonny, although ignore that guide, its outdated now with ziphone, before you had to jump through hoops dialling stuff on the handset, modifying files etc. like in that guide.

These days, you plug your phone in, click "unlock" and thats it.

Ignore that guide, thats the old way of doing it.
jonnylyons
27-03-2008
ha ok cheers chocolate_boy... just install and click... i like that!

Do you know in terms of the legalities what I need to say to Apple when i buy the phone. Do i have to say it is a gift? Dont really want to give them my name and address or am I jsut been paranoid! lol

Thanks again!
chocolate_boy
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by jonnylyons:
“ha ok cheers chocolate_boy... just install and click... i like that!

Do you know in terms of the legalities what I need to say to Apple when i buy the phone. Do i have to say it is a gift? Dont really want to give them my name and address or am I jsut been paranoid! lol

Thanks again!”

There is no legal issues, unlocking your phone and jailbreakung it is perfectly 100% legal both here and in the US. Apple just dont want you to as they lose their cut of your monthly bills.

Its your hardware though, you buy it, you own it thus can do whatever you like with it.
jonnylyons
27-03-2008
Jonny Closes his laptop and gets off to the Apple store! woo

Cheers all

J
withnail 73
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by chocolate_boy:
“Nice one jonny, although ignore that guide, its outdated now with ziphone, before you had to jump through hoops dialling stuff on the handset, modifying files etc. like in that guide.

These days, you plug your phone in, click "unlock" and thats it.

Ignore that guide, thats the old way of doing it.”


Just out of curiousity, how did you get EDGE to work after unlocking your phone?
chocolate_boy
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Just out of curiousity, how did you get EDGE to work after unlocking your phone?”

Well mine is an o2 iPhone anyway it is unlocked now but just as a test, I use my o2 iPhone sim in it normally.

But to answer ur question, on the first firmware 1.0.x u enter the edge settings into the settings menu. But on the newerbfirmware 1.1.1 onwards it automatically gets your networks GPRS settings, so if it sees edge it uses it over the gprs automatically. To quote what is quickly becoming Apples new slogan "it just works".

P.s I'm actually sending this from my iPhone on the train home
withnail 73
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by chocolate_boy:
“Well mine is an o2 iPhone anyway it is unlocked now but just as a test, I use my o2 iPhone sim in it normally.

But to answer ur question, on the first firmware 1.0.x u enter the edge settings into the settings menu. But on the newerbfirmware 1.1.1 onwards it automatically gets your networks GPRS settings, so if it sees edge it uses it over the gprs automatically. To quote what is quickly becoming Apples new slogan "it just works".

P.s I'm actually sending this from my iPhone on the train home ”

Yes I understand that it seeks out a EDGE signal automatically, but the phone depends on its sim card being subscribed to the EDGE network.

As the latest firmware does not enable manual EDGE settings input, I have not found a way to configure it to use GPRS/EDGE using a non o2 sim card.
TheSoulBrother
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by jonnylyons:
“Jonny Closes his laptop and gets off to the Apple store! woo

Cheers all

J”

Let us know how it goes.
Sananda Maitreya
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by paulj48:
“I was thinking of changing to o2 PAYG with the web bolt on, does this just let you browse the internet or will it let you send and recieve emails and use the weather/youtube/stocks and itunes functionality while out and about?

Does the web bolt on work anywhere that you get an O2 mobile signal? I'm stuck to using it only at home with my wifi at the moment.”

i'm using my iphone on o2 pay and go with the web bolt on. everything works except that you cannot send and receive emails over the cellular network and you only get GPRS not EDGE (even though it is displaying the E and is faster than when the E is not displayed).

Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Yes I understand that it seeks out a EDGE signal automatically, but the phone depends on its sim card being subscribed to the EDGE network.

As the latest firmware does not enable manual EDGE settings input, I have not found a way to configure it to use GPRS/EDGE using a non o2 sim card.”

change the 02_UK. plist to allow EDGE editing.
withnail 73
27-03-2008
[quote=change the 02_UK. plist to allow EDGE editing.[/QUOTE]


Which means?
Sananda Maitreya
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Which means?”

there a file in the iphone called 02_UK.plist. it's in /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreTelephony.framework/Support/

the first few lines are:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>BookmarkURLs</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>BookmarkName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>BookmarkURL</key>
<string>http://www.o2.co.uk/iphonestart</string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>CarrierName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>IntlDataRoamingSwitch</key>
<true/>

change it so the first few lines are:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>BookmarkURLs</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>BookmarkName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>BookmarkURL</key>
<string>http://www.o2.co.uk/iphonestart</string>
</dict>
</array><key>AllowEDGEEditing</key>
<true/>
<key>CarrierName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>IntlDataRoamingSwitch</key>
<true/>

you have to ssh into the iphone to do this.
withnail 73
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“there a file in the iphone called 02_UK.plist. it's in /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreTelephony.framework/Support/

the first few lines are:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>BookmarkURLs</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>BookmarkName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>BookmarkURL</key>
<string>http://www.o2.co.uk/iphonestart</string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>CarrierName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>IntlDataRoamingSwitch</key>
<true/>

change it so the first few lines are:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>BookmarkURLs</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>BookmarkName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>BookmarkURL</key>
<string>http://www.o2.co.uk/iphonestart</string>
</dict>
</array><key>AllowEDGEEditing</key>
<true/>
<key>CarrierName</key>
<string>O2</string>
<key>IntlDataRoamingSwitch</key>
<true/>

you have to ssh into the iphone to do this.”


Ok thankyou very much. What is SSH and how do I do it?
chocolate_boy
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Yes I understand that it seeks out a EDGE signal automatically, but the phone depends on its sim card being subscribed to the EDGE network.

As the latest firmware does not enable manual EDGE settings input, I have not found a way to configure it to use GPRS/EDGE using a non o2 sim card.”

Well when i popped my orange sim card in it just worked straight away with Edge. Although i did use it on a nokia before, maybe you need to put the settings into a different handset and save them first? Probably the easiest way to do it, borrow a mates phone or use your old one to put the two lines for the gprs settings in, and then put the sim in your iphone and it should work.
withnail 73
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by chocolate_boy:
“Well when i popped my orange sim card in it just worked straight away with Edge. Although i did use it on a nokia before, maybe you need to put the settings into a different handset and save them first? Probably the easiest way to do it, borrow a mates phone or use your old one to put the two lines for the gprs settings in, and then put the sim in your iphone and it should work.”


Yes - but thats not EDGE, its GPRS. The iphone would have been showing a blue box instead of a blue box with an 'E' in it.
Sananda Maitreya
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Ok thankyou very much. What is SSH and how do I do it?”

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/guide/sho...one-300323.php
withnail 73
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/guide/sho...one-300323.php”

Thankyou very much. You have been a great help.
Sananda Maitreya
27-03-2008
my pleasure.
chocolate_boy
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Yes - but thats not EDGE, its GPRS. The iphone would have been showing a blue box instead of a blue box with an 'E' in it.”

The iPhone will use Edge if it can find it, if not it will default to GPRS. If you need to manually put them in you can find the Edge username and password on the web really easily for all networks, or just ask them and they give you it.

It will then use Edge if it sees a signal, or use GPRS if it can't, they will work with the same user/pass.

As i said though, on orange, i just put the sim in and it worked anyway without any settings being entered.. If you wanted to/or had to manually put it in, I guess you just put the 1.0.3 firmware on and set it up, then upgrade to 1.1.4 and unlockm can do it in 5 mins.
wicksta
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce:
“Not very reliable are they?”

I'd got nearly to the bottom of the first page and thought "What, an iPhone thread without Mr Orange trolling in it?". You didn't let me down though.
withnail 73
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by wicksta:
“I'd got nearly to the bottom of the first page and thought "What, an iPhone thread without Mr Orange trolling in it?". You didn't let me down though. ”

Had to LOL at this. Good point.
chocolate_boy
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by withnail 73:
“Had to LOL at this. Good point.”

Yep, Ricardo, is the same as a couple of guys on the computing forum, hate apple and iphones, yet can't resist reading every single thread about them all the time, and trying to convince themselves and others how bad their producs are lol.

Something deeper going on here me thinks, some of them even go to the lengths of buying MAcs just to come on here and slag them off.

I do think its a shame they can't open their minds so anything different from what they know, they may actually find something better if they give it a chance, but they're too stuck in their ways,

Its the obssessiveness of the anti-mac brigade on here that astounds me, they are waaay more obsessed with apple than any of the so called "fanboys", reading everything, posting on every single thread, know all the apple news etc. yet profess to hate them, how odd!!
Ricardodaforce
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by wicksta:
“I'd got nearly to the bottom of the first page and thought "What, an iPhone thread without Mr Orange trolling in it?". You didn't let me down though. ”

I am glad I still have the ability to wind you Apple fanboys up.

For my next trick i might dig out those old posts of Chocoboys proclaiming how Apple are NOT interested in the corporate market and marrying them up to news of Apple's creating of apps especially for the corporate market. His response will no doubt be most amusing.
Ricardodaforce
27-03-2008
Originally Posted by chocolate_boy:
“Yep, Ricardo, is the same as a couple of guys on the computing forum, hate apple and iphones, yet can't resist reading every single thread about them all the time, and trying to convince themselves and others how bad their producs are lol.
”

I don't hate Apple at all? Where did you get that from? You live in a land of make believe sir.

I have never said the iPhone is a bad product either. That's another figment of your adolescent obsessive imagination. Tell me, do you look like Comic Book Man from the Simpsons per chance? Do you need reminding that I have praised the iPhone UI in these very fora? I believe that that UI just happens to be on top of a pretty average phone. I am entitled to an opinion you know. I admit I don't obsess like you sir, but that doesn't negate my right to have a view.
Or does it......
Lawe13
28-03-2008
Ricardo has a point above it has very impressive features but very un-impressive features to go with it. For me personally I get the best of both worlds. I have a 32GB iPod Touch and a Nokia N95 8GB - 2 amazing pieces of kit!
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