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Old 26-03-2008, 14:58
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Did anyone else notice on last Saturday's show that a large proportion of the possible Olivers appeared to come from private schools.
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Old 26-03-2008, 15:24
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If you had read the other threads you'd already know the answer is yes.
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Old 26-03-2008, 16:31
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this is the first thread I have read on this show - so I didn't know until now
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Old 26-03-2008, 19:16
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Olivers coming from private schools - the problem for me is that they can't act the streetwise urchin ALW said he wanted. They were all, performance wise, exact replicas of the precious little choirboy in the film.
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Old 30-03-2008, 11:14
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They were all, performance wise, exact replicas of the precious little choirboy in the film.
yes i have nothing against middle class kids doing it. lets face it they perhaps have the training/confidence etc necessary to pull off the role because of their backgrounds/education.

i teach in a deprived 2ndry school and can think of many boys who'd make good gritty olivers (yet lack the self-control, channelled talent etc needed)

having said that i can think of a few who, given parental support to audition etc might have been in with a chance

and yes, i thought these boys were just another version of mark whatever-his-name -is
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Old 30-03-2008, 12:39
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yes i have nothing against middle class kids doing it. lets face it they perhaps have the training/confidence etc necessary to pull off the role because of their backgrounds/education.

i teach in a deprived 2ndry school and can think of many boys who'd make good gritty olivers (yet lack the self-control, channelled talent etc needed)

having said that i can think of a few who, given parental support to audition etc might have been in with a chance

and yes, i thought these boys were just another version of mark whatever-his-name -is
I hope you don't teach English!!!
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Old 30-03-2008, 16:14
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I hope you don't teach English!!!
actually i do twingle!
be assured my lack of punctuation etc is down to laziness not ignorance and doesnt transfer to my teaching!
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Old 31-03-2008, 09:13
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My son was in a Cathedral choir when the musical director made the effort to get round state primary schools to audition, so although the choir had a lot of private school kids in there was a mix, and it sounded a lot better than when his successor decided to cut out a lot of work and just take kids from 2 'feeder' private schools. That policy would have left out my son. He's now studying music and that's going to be his career so I'm glad he got that early chance.

The new person has reinstated the old system of auditioning in state schools so I guess he agrees that you're missing out a lot of talent if you just go to private schools looking for gifted children.

You probably do need a lot of 'grit' to survive in that sort of school though as there's usually a lot of academic pressure on to pass an exam to go to a private/public secondary school.
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Old 01-04-2008, 14:26
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Olivers coming from private schools - the problem for me is that they can't act the streetwise urchin ALW said he wanted. They were all, performance wise, exact replicas of the precious little choirboy in the film.
Yes fully agree and with the latest programe it seems clear that despite ALW's wishes, they prefer the sweet adorable little boys from the private sector.

I was longing to see if they had discovered a talented lad with that rough, raw and dangerous edge that could be moulded and directed into a memorable Oliver.

Did this happen with Billie Elliott or the excellent recent UK film This is England?

So disappointing.
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Old 01-04-2008, 15:49
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Did this happen with Billie Elliott or the excellent recent UK film This is England?
I read an article in some annual report about Nottingham arts schemes, and it seemed that there was a workshop in Nottingham for youngsters with acting talent to give them opportunities they might not have had otherwise, and several of them went on to be in This is England.

I think it was this scheme http://www.thetelevisionworkshop.co.uk/. So yes I believe it did happen with This is England.
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