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How The Hell
Placid_Casual
20-07-2003
After watching the 9pm highlight show a strange thought hit me....

How the hell has Steph made it into the final four ?, she is a screechy, two faced nasty Brummie elf,

Can it all realy hang on the fact that she blatenly manipultaed Ray with her crying last week ?.

Nush would have been a far better choice than her and her constant siding and bitching with Cam ....

Have i been asleep for the last 6 weeks or have i missed a vital point >>>>???

Confused ...
Lucytash
20-07-2003
They kept her in to do the cleaning.
mini
20-07-2003
I think she has got louder as the weeks go by. Also, perhaps because the other girls have gone and "I'm the last girl left" everything she does is just that bit more noticable.
scott&nush
20-07-2003
I loved the way she kept going to Cameron "We're in the final 4' and getting really excited. Seems to be a regular occurance now on the show.
janeymo
20-07-2003
I used to think Steph was 'mostly harmless' but I have changed my view considerably since the whole Ray-gate affair. That was just so manipulative - that I'm afraid I have to admire her style! (still don't like her much though)

It makes you wonder whether this is just the first time that her scheming has been quite so blatant - perhaps she is the one who really has been in control of the game all the way through, and the dumb Brummie who we've all grown to hate, who needs Cameron to explain the meaning of difficult words to her is just a cunning cover.

What is interesting is that at some point Ray realised that he'd been manipulated - I'm not sure who or what made him see this... any ideas?
ben4321
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by janeymo
I used to think Steph was 'mostly harmless' but I have changed my view considerably since the whole Ray-gate affair. That was just so manipulative - that I'm afraid I have to admire her style! (still don't like her much though)

It makes you wonder whether this is just the first time that her scheming has been quite so blatant - perhaps she is the one who really has been in control of the game all the way through, and the dumb Brummie who we've all grown to hate, who needs Cameron to explain the meaning of difficult words to her is just a cunning cover.
”

Steph has always been a strange one. Being an ex-prison officer (which means she must be pretty tough) and an ex-footballer's wife suggests that she's a woman who's experienced a lot and can adapt to different environments. Yet in the BB4 house, she's this homely conservative figure. Everything about her just feels incongruous and false to me.

She and Cameron are very well matched.
B1-2JP
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Placid_Casual
How the hell has Steph made it into the final four ?, she is a screechy, two faced nasty Brummie elf, ”

Is Brummie being used as an adjective here or as a term of abuse?
janeymo
20-07-2003
Quote:
“
originally posted by B1-4JP

Is Brummie being used as an adjective here or as a term of abuse?”

I think it is being used to distinguish a "screechy, two faced nasty Brummie elf" from all those other screechy, two faced nasty elves we see on our TV screens, who (thank heavens) are not from Birmingham - or even Reddich - otherwise how on earth would we tell them all apart?

Do you think that Nush was trying to be nasy or nice when she called Steph "a little pixie"?
Alrightmate
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by janeymo
I used to think Steph was 'mostly harmless' but I have changed my view considerably since the whole Ray-gate affair. That was just so manipulative - that I'm afraid I have to admire her style! (still don't like her much though)

It makes you wonder whether this is just the first time that her scheming has been quite so blatant - perhaps she is the one who really has been in control of the game all the way through, and the dumb Brummie who we've all grown to hate, who needs Cameron to explain the meaning of difficult words to her is just a cunning cover.

What is interesting is that at some point Ray realised that he'd been manipulated - I'm not sure who or what made him see this... any ideas?
”

I think the point at which Ray realised this,..was a revealation of how flaky Steph's principles are,..when she got personal with him.

Steph started this attention rubbish when Jon was asked who he would have taken into the reward room,.Jon answered,.."Nush,..obviously".
Steph, from how it looked to me, took this personally. It appeared that Steph thought this was about her being unattractive, when the truth is that Jon simply likes Nush(nothing to do with Steph).
Shows how self absorbed Steph is to put the attention on herself.

Then later when Steph was crying to Ray about it,..she told Ray that she felt rubbish because all the attention is on Nush,..this was her interpretation, nobody elses. So Ray feeling sorry for her, gave her a friendly ear and tried to prove that he had consideration for her.

So Steph was apparently upset because nobody considers her feelings, and always give Nush more attention, and consider Nush first.

So that night while they were drinking,..when Steph says who she would have picked to go in the reward room if she had won the task,...she said Scott, obviously,..making it clear to ray that all the girls like Scott.
This is a direct reflection of the earlier incident, when Jon said his obvious choice would have been Nush.

So Ray, as well as feeling insulted, realises that Steph only finds certain principles important when they concern herself.
She is putting Ray in the exact same position that she herself was in,...proving that her belief system is a load of crap,..and is only relevant when her own feelings are hurt. As far as I was concerned she hurt her won feelings due to her self centred petulance.

She had no consideration for Ray's feelings,...while she accused everyone of not considering her own,....simple case of double standards.

To me it looked like either pure jealosy,...or complete ignorance and lack of consideration for others.
Obviously Ray is suddenly aware of Steph's selfish double standards,...and it's coupled with the hurt of the direct insult,..and the knowledge that Ray gave Steph a listening ear, but then treats him like muck and stabs him in the back.

But Steph is forgiven, because she's nice, she's cute,...and she's got a luvloi smile.

Thi is what happens when we wait for these quiet ones to slowly reveal themselves,..and we wait for these so-called hidden depths.
Being quiet for the first couple of weeks neither proves that you are worthy, or not worthy of being carried by the public.

This year we gave these quiet boring ones a chance, and look what we've been left with.

For all his faults, at least Ray shows many real emotions, good and bad, and is more representive of how a person behaves normally.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not that keen on Ray,....but at least he's got spunk.
Placid_Casual
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by B1-2JP
Is Brummie being used as an adjective here or as a term of abuse? ”



Well at least she's not a scouser with a penchant for shell suits
ben4321
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate

Don't get me wrong, I'm not that keen on Ray,....but at least he's got spunk.
”

Yes, he's proved that. Remember the duvet incident?
jack1314
21-07-2003
Noticed that with the selective editing on Friday night , Nush never actually heard Ray tell Steph that she was a better laugh than Nush, and that she (Nush got a bit gobby ,for want of a better term, when she had a drink. Why is everyone so quick to blame poor little Steph when at the end of the day it was the public that ousted Nush not her. Steph got the blame for Ray losing it when the were arguing outside...how many people actually thought that Ray's comment that Steph wanted to Shag all the boys was totally out of order?????
seba3
21-07-2003
Telling everyone Steph wants to shag them!!
Lol......Ray the pimp trying to drum up some business for Steph....Is there no ends to how low this Irish man will sink too.
Jimmy Connors
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Lucytash
They kept her in to do the cleaning. ”

The truth is in this post.
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