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Plato
20-07-2003
Just seen this tonight on the rerun. Cameron and Steff come out of the reward room, running, then Steff jumps onto Cameron's back and he gives her a piggy back all round the garden. Then to the the sofa all gasping and sweaty and cameron starts to sing a song with the line "you're five foot two and your eyes are blue". Steffy: "that's me that is. Oim foive foot two and me oiyes are blue. you could be singin about me" she rolls her eyes hopefully at her idol.

Cameron: "no tha's just a coincidence, they are the real lyrics"

Priceless Cam. What an utter b*st*rd you are. Even if the chipmunk desrved it!
EddyBee
20-07-2003
Thanks for that !
celticgirl
20-07-2003
Isn't he something else........ he could not even make a joke out of it and agree with her...... the man is asexual - no doubt about it
da33431
20-07-2003
This is something we were talking about tonight too. My first observation was Steph was mentioning that she doesn't make the first move and that she rarely gets approached, I wondered why she had made that point.

Then Ray said to Scott that Steph was "not a minger" - Cam looked thoroughly amused by the whole thing and had a big smirk on his face.

On the settee after the piggy back ride and he sang to her Steph genuinely looked like she wanted it to be about her. We were wondering whether it's one of two reactions for Cam - either he actually does thinks she's a minger or he can't express his true feelings he has towards her. When she mentioned about not making the first move I wondered if that was a sublte hint to Cam!
Plato
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by celticgirl
Isn't he something else........ he could not even make a joke out of it and agree with her...... the man is asexual - no doubt about it ”

He did it deliberately. The man is deliciously evil
Pasta
20-07-2003
Of course he doesn't fancy her - that why she's allowed to stay! He fancied Tania and Nush, so obviously they had to go! Don't you undertand him ny now?
Plant
20-07-2003
Came across that they were both having a bit of a laugh to me. I don't think Steph's after a man, she's going through a divorce.
father
20-07-2003
I found the whole episode quite bizarre. Cameron, even if he wasn't attracted to Steph, showed an immense lack of tact with his words. Even if the lyrics were a coincidence, no man at that age should be so naive by delivering such flippant remarks, esp. to somebody he has been close to -- albeit in a purely platonic sense. At worst, Cam could have just smiled knowingly because you could tell that Steph was taken back by his remark.

One of the tabloids asked Nush about Cameron and Steph getting together and her response was along the lines of "No, absolutely not. At least not from Steph's side." Girls are usu. more attuned to possible romance as well. In Jon's post-eviction interview, Davina also dropped the same question and Jon categorically believed there was no possiblity of the two getting together because "they are too different".

Oh well, Cam probably thought Steph was just fishing for compliments and / or was put off with her being drunk. But, damn, he seems oblivious to handling women properly.
steveyboybmth
20-07-2003
when I saw that, I thought "Oh, no don't try the Cam and Steph thing again!!, now Nush has gone!" the reason why I buy the Scott Nush thing is because it was unexpected, and occured naturally, and wasn't hinted at by Big Brother, it was something I noticed myself.
kimindex
20-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Plant
Came across that they were both having a bit of a laugh to me. I don't think Steph's after a man, she's going through a divorce. ”

I thought he was being patronising. Steph was joking and he assumed she was so stupid she didna ken that they were the real words to a song. He thinks women are dim. He clearly also didn't want her to think he could pay her a compliment by singing about her (even though it was obvious she knew he wasn't singing about her). It wouldn't have done any harm just to say something like 'oh yes, the words do apply to you'
scott&nush
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by steveuk
when I saw that, I thought "Oh, no don't try the Cam and Steph thing again!!, now Nush has gone!" the reason why I buy the Scott Nush thing is because it was unexpected, and occured naturally, and wasn't hinted at by Big Brother, it was something I noticed myself. ”

True true. Even Nush admitted on today's show that it wasn't instant attraction to Scott it gradually happened over time. I don't think if anyone went back at looked at the whole 12 u would pick them 2 getting on the best out of everyone. Impossible I think. Only after week 4 i think could u see something could be possibly be there. Ahh i miss them two being together so much. Entertained me during the night. I just hope it continues naturally outside the house.
fruitbat
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by kimindex
I thought he was being patronising. Steph was joking and he assumed she was so stupid she didna ken that they were the real words to a song. He thinks women are dim. He clearly also didn't want her to think he could pay her a compliment by singing about her (even though it was obvious she knew he wasn't singing about her). It wouldn't have done any harm just to say something like 'oh yes, the words do apply to you' ”

Yes, yet another example of Cam's caring nature - I even almost felt sorry for Steph (quite an achievement Cam)
steveyboybmth
21-07-2003
I've actually forgotten the 1st moment, it occured to me, to think Nush nominated him!! because he didn't pay her as much attention, shows how bad 1st impressions are!!

Scott was my favourite Male from the begininng, and Nush was my favourite female. so the Scott and Nush thing was fantastic for me to watch!
sympathy
21-07-2003
To be fair to Cameron, Steph is a bit thick. It wouldn't be too hard to patronise her really.
Eurostar
21-07-2003
Yes,it was very noticeable and C4 thought it noteworthy to show too.

My initial reaction was that Cameron must be one of the most un-flirtatious men on earth with women and not very gallant.99% of men would have replied 'of course I was singing about you'......to say 'don't be so silly,they were the actual song lyrics' was tactless.
Plato
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Plant
Came across that they were both having a bit of a laugh to me. I don't think Steph's after a man, she's going through a divorce. ”

Steff may fancy Cam. She may just be flirting. Just before the song she remarked how debonair Cameron looked. Cameron has played with her all through the series. Now with no-one there to see (except us) he's decided to humiliate her. This is what he did with the women in BBSA. He reels them in and ...knocks them down.

Steff is so self effacing she probably thinks she deserved it!
En Ami
21-07-2003
As much as I dislike Steph, I had to wince at Cameron's insensitivity. He either doesn't "get it", although Steph was hinting big time with that comment, or he doesn't WANT to "get it" and is deliberately being tactless to fob her off. I think Steph is far more interested in Cameron than he is in her.
scott&nush
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by steveuk
I've actually forgotten the 1st moment, it occured to me, to think Nush nominated him!! because he didn't pay her as much attention, shows how bad 1st impressions are!!

Scott was my favourite Male from the begininng, and Nush was my favourite female. so the Scott and Nush thing was fantastic for me to watch!
”

Man it must of been even better for you with those two being your favourite. She did say her first nomination was ironic last week i think. It is strange when u think about it. Wasn't she tearful in the diary room saying that Scott was being so nice to her and she regretted nominating him sometime in the first week. Would love to see the first show again and see them all together. I found Nush the most stunning out of all the housemates but i'd admit Fed and Scott were my fav and Nush finally grew on me. Glad she did as I wouldn't of enjoyed BB as much.
Jimmy Connors
21-07-2003
It wouldn't have hurt Cameron to say (even with a sly grin on his face) "of course I was singing about you Steph"

It's very obvious to me that Mr Cameron is very in-experienced with ladies. Infact he runs in the opposite direction at the first sign of any female attention. I do believe he is a virgin. Nowt wrong with that, but he needs to at least respect other people's feelings. Even Steph!! (can't believe I'm defending the little minx)
BigMerv
21-07-2003
Five foot two
eyes of blue
looks like she's
been sniffing glue
does anybody like
this girl.

if she's real
if she's true
then why is she
so bitchy too
does anybody
like this girl

now if you bump
into a five foot two
dressed like a girl
a kitchen sink
a bitch you think
you'll wish your life
it is not her

is she real
does she screw
what d'ya think
old Cam will do
if Ray went off
to screw his girl


I thaaannnk you.
Eurostar
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Jimmy Connors
It wouldn't have hurt Cameron to say (even with a sly grin on his face) "of course I was singing about you Steph"

It's very obvious to me that Mr Cameron is very in-experienced with ladies. Infact he runs in the opposite direction at the first sign of any female attention. I do believe he is a virgin. Nowt wrong with that, but he needs to at least respect other people's feelings. Even Steph!! (can't believe I'm defending the little minx)
”


But even as virgins go,he is being very insensitive and tactless.Lack of sexual experience with women is no excuse for hurting their feelings.Even for a 32 year old virgin,there is something distinctly odd about his behaviour with women.
Lindum_Imp
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by da33431
This is something we were talking about tonight too. My first observation was Steph was mentioning that she doesn't make the first move and that she rarely gets approached, I wondered why she had made that point.

Then Ray said to Scott that Steph was "not a minger" - Cam looked thoroughly amused by the whole thing and had a big smirk on his face.

On the settee after the piggy back ride and he sang to her Steph genuinely looked like she wanted it to be about her. We were wondering whether it's one of two reactions for Cam - either he actually does thinks she's a minger or he can't express his true feelings he has towards her. When she mentioned about not making the first move I wondered if that was a sublte hint to Cam!
”



Both Cameron's and Steph's mums are convinced there's something between them (C & S not their mums!) and both added that neither would do anything about it in public. So who knows?

Every woman I know said that based upon Steph's behaviour when Cameron was in SA and her reaction to his return that she 'had the hots for him'. Cameron clearly hasn't had much experience with women so maybe he's just unsure what to do. His 'friskiness' upon his return from SA - slapping Stepth's bum constantly etc - was maybe his way of 'making a move'. It's interesting that he didn't carry this on for long so maybe he thought Stepth's disapproval was her rejecting him.

I think there's far more prospect of these two getting together than Nush and Scott.
cazkins
21-07-2003
I think it's more likely that fed and Gos will get together

Caz
Pollyanna
21-07-2003
Cameron reminds me of a very very good friend of mine, who I went out with some years ago. I've seen the resemblance soooo many times now it's uncanny, so I just had to make this post.

We were b/f and g/f for about a year - but (don't laugh) it took him about six months get around to kissing me! (For the first six months I thought we were just going to be "mates"!). He was obviously very inexperienced with women (and aged 30 at the time). We eventually - during the latter half of our time together - had a "normal" relationship.

After a year we broke up - and have stayed very good friends.

However, he is now openly gay, and probably one of my closest friends.
chrissie
21-07-2003
Well - as unpopular as it may be on this forum - I am a fan of Stephs.
I have been undecided about cameron but on the whole thought he was the most deserving to win out of the lads that are left - as I have found him entertaining and interesting even if I have found him intensely infuriating at times.
I thought the remark to steph was totally insensitive and i think she WAS hurt by it. He has taken constant support from steph - even as a friend he could have humoured her and they could have had a little joke together.
As far as I'm concerned now - he is just a taker - he has always got that sly look on his face - I am convinced that he IS gay.
That is his big secret - which he said his friends have probably already guessed.
grrr - i wish Ray and Steph would do some serious flirting this week and push his nose right out of joint.
I know I am flogging a dead horse BUT I have put £10 on her anyway - and I've never betted before.
Steph to win
then Ray
Then Scott [never thought I'd say that]
then Cameron
[may he be booed]

Chrissie - not worshipping at the shrine of the male sheep
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