[quote]Originally posted by saddo

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“Originally posted by KriZ
[That is the ONE MAIN PROBLEM that you sort of boring do-gooders NEVER UNDERSTAND!!!

PS ....how do you know that im a boring do gooder????
you know mothing at all about me...which is my earlier point exactly!!!!........
you have decided that i am a particular type purely from one comment.....a bit judgemental isnt it???
i am in fact a newly released psychotic homicidal maniac who just happened to be having a brief ' nice' moment when i posted my thread....sorry for that.....i must try harder to curb these irrational thoughts..”

Dont really follow the programme, read the boards with interest so this line of reason being flamed got my attention the response was classic.
My admiration for a well proposed response

The flamer well!

When the housemates signed (several times no doubt) their contracts they gave up the right for any reasonable behavior from us....They fully expect to get something out of all this...money, fame, ligging....and they will have to put up with the downside as well....that being some totally unfair behavior and malice from us....It's their own fault......

And if I ever got motivated enough to apply I'd expect all of you to treat me the same way as I treat the HM's now.....Not that I;d care because I'd be quite well off, wouldn't have to work for a year, I'd be blotted every night on free booze and I'd be famous (for good or bad reasons I wouldn't really care).......

Yeah, but you’d have to snog Justine, the face hoover. She would find you. <---------- You, afterwards.

Fair enough. just dont expect any more exciting bb's thats all. because now they really DO know what to expect and consequently future BB's will be even more subdued and boring than this one.

The attitude of the "Oooooooo! Don't say "Bum" Brigade" on this thread is all that is wrong with this country!!!

That is why we are stuck in the dark ages and totally out of line with the rest of Europe

Just look at the other BBs around the world, what do they get?
Sex, Nudity, punch ups, etc.
What do we get here? - Well! Certainly none of the above and hours and hours of "The Book Reading Club" and a possible winner who is a Bible Bashing weirdo, who thinks that talking about Apples is the most stimulation thing in the world and that Bitching and Slagging someone off is all ok as long as you hide it by doing it late at night and behind someone back! (What a real man!)

NEWSFLASH:- Mary Whitehouse is dead!!! This country doesn't need another one - it has moved on! Go with it or get left behind!

It is certainly nice to hear from the "Over 50's Bingo Crowd" These are the one's who are Hell Bent on spreading their "Book at bedtime" mentality like a Cancer to all !

(Over 50's Bingo Crowd and Book at bedtime are expressions! They make no claim that anyone goes to Bingo, is over 50 or reads any books at any time!)

What utter rot!
Stop trying to blaim us for a boring BB!!!

If I went in for, and actually appeared on the next BB - you could say what you liked about me! - you can make things up about me or bend the truth - you can even slag me of for no reason whatsoever!!! - All of that is to be expected if I decide to go on BB!

So it won't stop anybody from going in!!

You can even write what you like about me on here if you wish - NO PROBLEM !!! (I won't be crying about it!!!)

Whoa hang on a sec there. are you saying that bitching and slagging off people who cant answer back is wrong?. Im glad you realise that.

Why do you think Uk BB's dont have the same excitemnet as others?. Because any hm who is exciteing or whatever is slagged off and kicked out by the public!!.

whats WRONG with this country is people who slag off others for pattetic reasons such as their wieght or their looks or even their accent. the language of the yob.

as I have said before, and which you havent responded to, is that there is nothing wrong with constructive critisism!!. there is a hell of a lot wrong with gratuituous and spitfull comments though and if you and some of the public cant see the difference then I fear for the future of BB.





so for the last time. some of us are not saying there should be NO cristisism, we are saying that some of the more extreme and nasty comments are unwarranted and spitefull.

I'll state my opinion here. You do, so I will. and that is that BB is boring because of the treatment the hm;'s get from people like you.
just because you CAN be nasty to someone doesnt mean you should. thats my opinion and you can argue till the cows come home, but in the end your attitude will kill BB. Of that I am certain.

and how exactly are YOUn qualified to tell ME what I can and cant post.?????????

Are you saying that you can post YOUR opinion, but I cant post mine?.
Listen up.I have posted MY opinion. if its different to yours then maybe I am entitled to say to YOU 'dont tell us what we can and cant post here'. however, Im not that hypocritical.

Are you on crack? I asked you why you think you should dictate to others what can and cannot be posted. I’m not advocating restricting the parameters of discussion in any way, even inane ramblings like your post above. Get your facts straight before posting in future.

the way I see, its the FMs who are sanctimonious and pontificate towards other FMs that gets me. The ironic thing is, I never particularly agree with their opinions when they are expressing one on BB. I usually find them a bit intolerant. Its usually the same folk throughout BB

Thats just my opinion. Speaking for myself.

People know what its like when they choose to go on BB. The papers are worse.

If people post unjustified criticism, they are being judged too. Its all a bit of a pantomine so it can get exaggerated, but even still if someone is being unfair they will be judged on it (including me)

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God this thread is getting tidious!!!

There are 1000's of wannabe's out there and just like me do not care of anyone says about them - so your opinion about future BB being bad because of this is jus so WRONG!

All you are trying to do is to justify being a prude!!!

IT WON'T WORK!!!

People in this country are getting sicker and sicker of being dragged back to the dark ages - so we plan to go forward !

You lot can sit there with your Coco and sippers and become the "laughing Stock" of the world if you wish - Please don't drag us down to your level - And DO NOT blaim us when you get left behind all alone !

his name is Kriz

I am not dictating what people can and cant post. I have said ,on many occasion that people should be free to post what they want. however, if they post something that I disgaree with then Ill say so!. You seem to be denying ME the right to say what I feel. Yes of course id prefer it if people werent so spitfull and nasty, but SOME are. it doesnt mean I have to sit here like a mouse not saying anythign about it.
Tell me. whats the difference between you saying it is ok and me saying it isnt?. why is YOUR opinion ok, but mine not.??
perhaps you should get your facts straight.

im a prude because I object to hm's being judged on their looks or accent or weight?. because I object to hm;'s being called 'whores and slappers' because they hug a guy a few times?.
If thats what a prude is so then I am PROUD to be a prude.

Because I’m not attempting to restrict other’s comments in any way. Disagree with other posters views all you like but don’t attempt to tell them/us what is permissable to post - It’s not up to you.

You don’t set policy on this board. As I said before this is a discussion board with Moderators and Admins who police it - You don’t, so get off your soapbox and allow some free speech.

But YOU are attempting to restrict MY comments because they differ to yours!. free speech means allowing people who disagree with you to you to put forward their viewpoint.
Ill make it easy
*I* personally dont like some of the comments aimed at BB hm's. ok.!? thats my opinion. others can post what the hell they like(ok..see, not attempt to stop others from posting), but If I disagree with their viewpoint or attitude then I will say so!.

pls, feel free to slag off bb hm's all you like. But dont expect me to agree with it.

But you don’t have a viewpoint other than the desire to tell other people what they can and can’t post or what’s acceptable in your opinion. Your posts here in this thread have had no merit because the entire thrust of them is geared towards restricting the speech of others, letting it be known that as some kind of self-appointed moral arbiter you’re there to keep forum members in check with your admonitions lest they cross the line according to your rules.

It’s frankly pathetic and you’re just one more reason I’ll be glad when this year’s BB is over.

are we actually talking about the HM often or what they represent for us in Society?

Otherwise I couldn't imagine the discussions getting so heated. Do we actually really care about these people in the house, or more about how we are perceived?

Never mind being kinder about the HMs, couldn't we try to be kinder to each other on the forum. Some of you are really quite scary

bc

so what gives you the right to try to restrict my posts?. because that what you are doing and its hypocritical in the extreme.

I'll say it again *I* dont like some of the comments aimed at hm's. ok. I dont give a flying toss what others posts. they can post ALL they like. how many more times do I have to say this !!!.
But if I disagree then Ill say so.

you can go round repeating the same dogma all you like. but in the end, its a question of difference of opinion. just because someone says they dont like the way others posts doesnt mean they are trying to stop them. Unlike you, who seems hell bent on denying ME my freedom of speech.

Im trying to be hold myself back actually. I just get tired of being told I cant give my opinion because other dont like it.

Ok..Ill be kind to Straker, lets see if its reciprocated.

Straker. We have a difference of opinion ok. I respect your right to post what you want. pls also respect me the same way.

KriZ, the reason Big Brother houses in Europe have more fun than ours is not because of some imaginary bingo and cocoa brigade.
It is because the housemates know that they can relax and be themselves, knowing that the viewing public in their countries are mature adults who accept with humour and tolerance the failings and foibles of others.

Which is a lot more than I can say for some of the screeching reactionary abuse I see on here and other forums.

So yes, I think saddo is right.

not sure. I know I empathise a lot with the hm's. ie if someone gets called a 'slag' I think how id react if someone called me one. So I tend to side with the HM. I genuinly do not see any validity in a lot of the more extreme comments. sorry everyone, but I really dont.

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