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saddo
21-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Michael2
I think its because some people dont understand the hm's emotional situation. If the poster is detached from the hm's emotional state then it may well look like steph has eg, 'manipulated' Ray. wheh in fact, some empathy with her situation would see she didnt manipulate him, she just felt a strong negative emotion.
Maybe all her life the 'better looking' females have been the centre of attention and shes been on the side lines a bit. Nush maybe just represented all those times she(steph) has been left out. so I dont think there was any manipulation on a concious level at all, she was reacting emotionally to a situation as she saw it.
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Michael2.....you are a man after my own heart!!!!......would you like to share a cocoa with me sometime???......we could take Kriz along with us.!!!
gazza71
21-07-2003
I have considered that she manipulated Ray, but am prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt there. What I will not give her the benfit of the doubt on, is the fact that she got so jealous of her. That may come from some deep personal problem in her life, but it doesn't come from Nush... Her lack of wanting to understand why Nush is the way she is, when Cameron tried to defend her on the Friday after Lisa went, is my real problem with Steph. I found that incredibly ignorant.
Babycatcher
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
I have considered that she manipulated Ray, but am prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt there. What I will not give her the benfit of the doubt on, is the fact that she got so jealous of her. That may come from some deep personal problem in her life, but it doesn't come from Nush... Her lack of wanting to understand why Nush is the way she is, when Cameron tried to defend her on the Friday after Lisa went, is my real problem with Steph. I found that incredibly ignorant. ”

Another factor to consider, though is that Steph may have been suffering from PMT.
I am not saying that PMT excuses anything, but it does tend to magnify stuff and make you view life irrationally and emotionally. It's a bugger.
Once you are menstrual these feeling settle into a more normal state.

bc
Plant
21-07-2003
gazza, I was just using that as an example of people making assumptions about the workings of the HMs minds. All the HMs have had this at some time or other, this was just the most obvious example I can think of.

This thread is about how we discuss the housemates, there's loads of threads for you to put your point across about Steph more generally.
saddo
21-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Plant
There seems very little attempt on these boards to really consider why the HMs are behaving as they are which would make for much more interesting discussion in my opinion. I'm not really interested in peoples views on how "evil" a housemate is, it's just boring. [/b]”

well said Plant......you can come for cocoa too!!!!!
Plant
21-07-2003
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“Originally posted by saddo
well said Plant......you can come for cocoa too!!!!! ”

Cheers saddo, as long as you're paying!
gazza71
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Plant
gazza, I was just using that as an example of people making assumptions about the workings of the HMs minds. All the HMs have had this at some time or other, this was just the most obvious example I can think of.

This thread is about how we discuss the housemates, there's loads of threads for you to put our point across about Steph more generally.
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Yes, but you made the point in one of your posts on this thread that there seems to have been a lack of understanding for the HMs this year... I replied to that here, because it is Steph's lack of wanting to understand other HMs that has caused me to dislike her.
saddo
21-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Plant
Cheers saddo, as long as you're paying! ”

of course i'll pay......i get a reduction on all drinks at a local cafe when i display my pension paying in book!!!.....
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