Disturbing proof that Muslim Asian gangs are grooming and then pimping underage white girls, getting them hooked on drugs, raping them and threatening violence against their familes should they try to escape the cycle.

The police were accused of not doing enough to prevent this for fear of stirring up racial hatred.

Nick Griffin was put on trial for speaking of this, it seems to me that the left wing BBC are drawing similar conclusions to the BNP

I can well imagine that the figures for this are miniscule in comparison to the white men drugging, raping and pimping out white girls and threatening their families

I don't agree the BBC are left wing. I find them and The Guardian about the least biased news sources around these days tbh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ma/7302713.stm

Probably because 90% of the population is white compared to about 5% Asian? Not really a fair comparison is it?

It certainly doesn't make the actions of these Asian gangs any more acceptable and if the police are turning a blind eye to it in order to avoid stirring up racial tension then that's bang out of order in my view.

A man is a man, does it really matter what colour he is? Or is it worse if the victim is white and the perpetrator isn't?

This type of thing happens for many reasons other than the colour of someone's skin and dealing with it as an issue related to race is completely missing the point of why it happens in the first place - especially considering the prevelance of the same crime in the "white community". which illustrates that it is not a race issue.

Throwing around accusations that are intended simply to mask racism only serve to inflame people while what caused the problem in the first place continues to run unchecked.

And yeah the police probably didn't investigate probably, but then that's not exactly new.

This started in Keighley, nothing to do with race but it was to do with asian older guys abusing younger girls.

Two were definitely groomed to my knowledge in keighley. Anyone can pull me up on this but i know the mother of one and the mother of the other killed herself 3 years ago after they had been on tv.

The mother of one of the girls is now a councilor and i won't name her here.
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As the BBC explained who is doing the grooming depends on people in the area - thus black gangs in black areas, Turkish gangs in Turkish areas etc etc

So it's a gang thing not a Muslim thing

I heard about the program but didn't have the heart to watch, yes it's very disturbing but the problem is I cannot for the life of me understand why some people live a very liberal life, a girls of 11 or 12 can easily have boyfriend and and their parents doesn't think nothing of it, going out until very late at night seems a norm because that's what girls that age do, or you hear parents would say well what can i do it's not my fault. There was a program about teenage mothers, it was called pram face not very sure, one mum turn round and said about her daughter I knew so and so would be pregnant by the time she is 12 years old, if parent have this sort of attitude then you will get muslims gangs pimping white girls, it's very easy for them to get white girls. Lets face it look what happened in Goa, a mother went there and just let her 15 yrs old daughter take a local man to be her boyfriend, the men is somewhat 10 yrs her senior. This sort of things will always happened until parents keep their daughters indoors and educate them to have self respects then again the parents need lesson of that themselves. Need I say more.

Whether they are Muslims or not, has nothing to do with them, nor them being Asian.
I come from an area a quite diverse area and in my area, all people mix. There are some white girls who hang out with some Asian lads, who all get drunk at thier own will and then have sex with each other. It has nothing to do with thier ethnicity or religion, its simply to do with thier own attitude.
The Police aren't scared to do anything, they have the power and they can do what they think is right. I have seen that with my own eyes, and how they confront 'gangsters'.


He was put on trail for purposely lying and causing up hatred, which this world could do without. They stuck Abu Hamza in jail and they should do the same with him, because they are just as vile.



Precisely, where you get urban decay or deprievation such as this, whether it be a 'black, white, asian' area is irrelavent. The point is young girls are getting into the wrong things, and possibly a better morality shown by parents and then passed on to children is needed. Someone else mentioned that on that TV progamme, the mother said she knew her daughter is going to get pregnant at the age of 12, maybe she should have paid abit more attension to her, to get her to mature and understand her actions. However its not always fair to blame parents...

And you have proof that these gangs are comprised of Muslims? Do the gang members pray 5 times a day and live by the teachings of Islam?

I think not. Methinks you just wanted to get the word 'Muslim' into your thread title. Now, unless you can provide evidence that these gang members were indeed Muslims, I would say that you are simply spreading religious hatred.

Quite - certainly in Portsmouth they are mainly Turkish

Wasn't this exposed by Channel 4 a few years back, but promptly hushed up?

Did they mention the White, Black, British, Eastern European supposedly Christian pimps as well ? or just those who follow the Muslim faith ?

It would be interesting to know the proportion of the local population that become pimps.

Well it's any excuse to insult the Muslim people isn't it! I feel sorry for Muslims in our society today, the press loves making them the scapegoats for practically everything.
ie) MUSLIM pimps (yes, let's forget about the many white ones!)


What about the nonstop global warming propaganda they air day in day out? And their overwhelmingly pro-EU reporting?

You wouldn't call the white pimps 'Christian pimps' though!

The point is that these people are NOT Muslims. A Muslim practises Islam and lives his/her life according to the teachings of Islam.

I have challenged the OP to provide evidence that these individuals were Muslims. He/she has failed to respond.

I can only summise that the OP wanted to incite religious hatred by using the term 'Muslim' in the thread title. Inciting religious hatred is a criminal offence.

It's not fair to bring race into this issue - it's despicable regardless of colour or religion, and the fact that colour and religion have been highlighted show how pathetic our media is, they are blatantly looking to cause trouble rather than focusing on the most important issue - the crime.

the media have been scared to bring this issue up and down played it for years , just like the local press in the area bury stories cause they dont want to inflame already strained tensions...in fact ,the bbc went out of their way not to say ..muslim or asian or white in the documentary and treated it like what it is ..a very serious crime committed by whoever does it ...

I think that shows that you are left wing! (Like me!)

Well, it wasn't hushed up. There was a very melancholic documentary called "Edge of the City" which was shown, and, if memory serves correctly, it was based around Bradford. The whole "Asians pimping out white girls" was covered as one of the stories, but the valid point was made that this happens all over the country, and it's not just about singling our Asian men as doing it. White men do it, black men do it, Albanian gangs do it.. it's just one of the horrible things that happens in society.

Quite.

Just because someone is from a Muslim community does not mean that they are a Muslim.

Imagine if all white criminals and gang members were called Catholic / Protestant because they are white! I'm a white atheist and would not like to be described as a protestant or catholic (or even CofE).

It is not just the media though, to be fair if you try to bring up any critiscism of Islam, even constructive, you are immediately classed as a racist. How can you be racist when Islam is a RELIGION not a race. My critiscism stems from the fact that how can a mass religion be so fragile as to not allow such debate or critiscism. How can a religion be so fragile that it can't take anyone leaving the religion without being threatened with death or with one of their flock being gay?. How can a mass religion be so fragile that it can be threatened by some stupid cartoons?. I know of one guy who lives locally who left Bradford because his own cousins threatened to kill him. His crime?, he was a Muslim who decided to come out as gay to his family. His whole family now refuse to have anything to do with him and he received death threats from his cousins and other family members. It got worse for him when he decided to leave Islam and told his family he no longer considers himself a Muslim, in the end he had to leave for his own safety and piece of mind. I'm sorry to offend, but Islam is an intolerant, homophobic and very sexist religion.

I think there was a thread on here a few years ago, complete with links of regional newspapers. I remember reading that one mother with a young daughter was receiving 'phone calls warning her that if she contacted the police again her home would be torched.

I thought the gist of the story was that the police,were reluctant to act on these gangs because of fear of being called racist. All sections of society have this type of scum in them Black,White,Asian. What needs to happen is the police to come down on these people whoever they are like the proverbial ton of bricks.

captainkremmen,

I am more inclined to believe that there are many muslim families who are more westernised and who are more tolerant to women's rights and gay issues etc.

However, there seems to be many areas where intolerance is widespread. I think this is due to culture rather than religion. When cultures (Pakistani and Bangladeshi) dominate they tend to be backward looking and extreme.

Most Muslims who have been exposed to western culture are more moderate.

Our campaign, in the long term, is to move away from multi-culturalism.