Speaking of Pakistan, isn't it ironic that it's one of the few nations in the world to have had a female leader? For all the talk in the West about sexual equality, it's rarely (I'm not saying never) seen in positions of real power.
Panorama- muslim Asians pimping white girls
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Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“I was also referring to another post made by the same individual on another thread.”
“I was also referring to another post made by the same individual on another thread.”
Sid,
Could you PM the post in question to me? I like to try and get my point of view across but dont intentionally try to 'dictate'.If I can see the post in question hopefully I can see where I am going wrong
Craigy
Originally Posted by craigy132:
“Please listen and try to understand. This thread is about a panorama programme yes? That programme was about blackburn yes?”
“Please listen and try to understand. This thread is about a panorama programme yes? That programme was about blackburn yes?”
I take it you haven't seen the program then - the first part was about Blackburn and the conviction of 2 Asians, the mid bit is set in Wolverhampton and the success of a scheme there.
There was also talk about the trafficking of children between cities and conversations with people with local accents whose ethnic origin wasn't known. There was also mention of gangs of different racial origins who were Asian, White and Black - with the Wolvehampton culprits being Afro-Carribbean
So it wasn't about Blackburn alone, wasn't about Asians alone and there was no mention of Muslims at all.
Link to the program
Originally Posted by combreakdown:
“Disturbing proof that Muslim Asian gangs are grooming and then pimping underage white girls, getting them hooked on drugs, raping them and threatening violence against their familes should they try to escape the cycle.
The police were accused of not doing enough to prevent this for fear of stirring up racial hatred.
Nick Griffin was put on trial for speaking of this, it seems to me that the left wing BBC are drawing similar conclusions to the BNP”
“Disturbing proof that Muslim Asian gangs are grooming and then pimping underage white girls, getting them hooked on drugs, raping them and threatening violence against their familes should they try to escape the cycle.
The police were accused of not doing enough to prevent this for fear of stirring up racial hatred.
Nick Griffin was put on trial for speaking of this, it seems to me that the left wing BBC are drawing similar conclusions to the BNP”
Where does it mention Muslims? Is the thread title accurate or are you promoting your anti-Muslim agenda?
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“I take it you haven't seen the program then - the first part was about Blackburn and the conviction of 2 Asians, the mid bit is set in Wolverhampton and the success of a scheme there.
There was also talk about the trafficking of children between cities and conversations with people with local accents whose ethnic origin wasn't known. There was also mention of gangs of different racial origins who were Asian, White and Black - with the Wolvehampton culprits being Afro-Carribbean
So it wasn't about Blackburn alone, wasn't about Asians alone and there was no mention of Muslims at all.
Link to the program”
“I take it you haven't seen the program then - the first part was about Blackburn and the conviction of 2 Asians, the mid bit is set in Wolverhampton and the success of a scheme there.
There was also talk about the trafficking of children between cities and conversations with people with local accents whose ethnic origin wasn't known. There was also mention of gangs of different racial origins who were Asian, White and Black - with the Wolvehampton culprits being Afro-Carribbean
So it wasn't about Blackburn alone, wasn't about Asians alone and there was no mention of Muslims at all.
Link to the program”
I did watch the prog and as I recall prob bout 80% of it was based in blackburn. 100% of the abusers in blackburn were asian muslims.When the cameras went out with the task force on the streets of blackburn the people they spoke to hanging around in cars who they thought could be potential abusers were asian. There was a small part of the show where they interviewed a copper from wolves who talked about a scheme there and said there main gangs consisted of non asians. So really most of the program was about asian gangs in blackburn IMHO
Perhaps you should watch the program again, to refresh your memory
About one third of the program was in Wolverhampton - where they had successfully prosecuted a number of people involved in the trade, as opposed to 2 in Blackburn.
There was no claim that 100% of the abusers were Asian Muslims even in Blackburn - in fact the mention of Asian involvement was quite limited.
The people in cars weren't identified as Muslims, Asian, White, Afro-Caribbean or even Japanese. They did appear to have local accents though, so I suspect the people weren't of Japanese origin
In any case most of the program was about grooming children for sexual purposes and the lack of police effort in most areas to combat this crime.
It wasn't about Asian gangs
About one third of the program was in Wolverhampton - where they had successfully prosecuted a number of people involved in the trade, as opposed to 2 in Blackburn.
There was no claim that 100% of the abusers were Asian Muslims even in Blackburn - in fact the mention of Asian involvement was quite limited.
The people in cars weren't identified as Muslims, Asian, White, Afro-Caribbean or even Japanese. They did appear to have local accents though, so I suspect the people weren't of Japanese origin
In any case most of the program was about grooming children for sexual purposes and the lack of police effort in most areas to combat this crime.
It wasn't about Asian gangs
in blackburn all the locals know its been goin on for years , whos doin it and drug are involved and its 100% ..denial is no excuse , neithr is trying to spred the blame around as some in this thread try to .
Originally Posted by GhyllenStillwheel:
“in blackburn all the locals know its been goin on for years , whos doin it and drug are involved and its 100% ..denial is no excuse , neithr is trying to spred the blame around as some in this thread try to .”
“in blackburn all the locals know its been goin on for years , whos doin it and drug are involved and its 100% ..denial is no excuse , neithr is trying to spred the blame around as some in this thread try to .”
Unfortunately childrens' welfare is expendable at the altar of political correctness for the ivory tower liberals. Don't you know that in Surrey the liberals don't have these problems.. so it musn't be happening anywhere else either.
Originally Posted by pxd867:
“Unfortunately childrens' welfare is expendable at the altar of political correctness for the ivory tower liberals.
Don't you know that in Surrey the liberals don't have these problems.. so it musn't be happening anywhere else either.”
“Unfortunately childrens' welfare is expendable at the altar of political correctness for the ivory tower liberals.
Don't you know that in Surrey the liberals don't have these problems.. so it musn't be happening anywhere else either.
”
ethel_wombat, give it up, this is pointless.
The bit in bold is what some of us are actually picking up on.
It is happening elsewhere, but apparently if it doesn't involve Asian Muslims nobody on here seems to be interested or care.
Do you know that this sort of grooming/pimping doesn't happen in Surrey, good you can give a link to wherever you've got this information from.
Surrey is quite a big place you know, I'd stop using it as some sort of example of a middle class idyll, just makes you look silly to anyone who's actually been there.
Oh it's alright I've worked it out, grooming/pimping only happens where Asian Muslims live, thanks for that
Oh well, as you were.
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“Speaking of Pakistan, isn't it ironic that it's one of the few nations in the world to have had a female leader? For all the talk in the West about sexual equality, it's rarely (I'm not saying never) seen in positions of real power.”
“Speaking of Pakistan, isn't it ironic that it's one of the few nations in the world to have had a female leader? For all the talk in the West about sexual equality, it's rarely (I'm not saying never) seen in positions of real power.”
thats what I've been saying. Lets not forget the women who died fighting for democracy's life in Pakistan.
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“Perhaps you should watch the program again, to refresh your memory
About one third of the program was in Wolverhampton - where they had successfully prosecuted a number of people involved in the trade, as opposed to 2 in Blackburn.
There was no claim that 100% of the abusers were Asian Muslims even in Blackburn - in fact the mention of Asian involvement was quite limited.
The people in cars weren't identified as Muslims, Asian, White, Afro-Caribbean or even Japanese. They did appear to have local accents though, so I suspect the people weren't of Japanese origin
In any case most of the program was about grooming children for sexual purposes and the lack of police effort in most areas to combat this crime.
It wasn't about Asian gangs”
“Perhaps you should watch the program again, to refresh your memory
About one third of the program was in Wolverhampton - where they had successfully prosecuted a number of people involved in the trade, as opposed to 2 in Blackburn.
There was no claim that 100% of the abusers were Asian Muslims even in Blackburn - in fact the mention of Asian involvement was quite limited.
The people in cars weren't identified as Muslims, Asian, White, Afro-Caribbean or even Japanese. They did appear to have local accents though, so I suspect the people weren't of Japanese origin
In any case most of the program was about grooming children for sexual purposes and the lack of police effort in most areas to combat this crime.
It wasn't about Asian gangs”
I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.
I suppose ignorance is bliss for some though. And besides, it's only the young, white girls from poor backgrounds that they target, so what does it really matter?
I wonder if they started targeting middle class girls, would action from the authorities be swifter and harder? I shouldn't really wonder... as we all know the answer to that one!
Originally Posted by Prince Monalulu:
“ethel_wombat, give it up, this is pointless.
The bit in bold is what some of us are actually picking up on.
It is happening elsewhere, but apparently if it doesn't involve Asian Muslims nobody on here seems to be interested or care.
Do you know that this sort of grooming/pimping doesn't happen in Surrey, good you can give a link to wherever you've got this information from.
Surrey is quite a big place you know, I'd stop using it as some sort of example of a middle class idyll, just makes you look silly to anyone who's actually been there.
Oh it's alright I've worked it out, grooming/pimping only happens where Asian Muslims live, thanks for that
Oh well, as you were.”
“ethel_wombat, give it up, this is pointless.
The bit in bold is what some of us are actually picking up on.
It is happening elsewhere, but apparently if it doesn't involve Asian Muslims nobody on here seems to be interested or care.
Do you know that this sort of grooming/pimping doesn't happen in Surrey, good you can give a link to wherever you've got this information from.
Surrey is quite a big place you know, I'd stop using it as some sort of example of a middle class idyll, just makes you look silly to anyone who's actually been there.
Oh it's alright I've worked it out, grooming/pimping only happens where Asian Muslims live, thanks for that
Oh well, as you were.”
I was being mildly sarcastic my friend; my point was that some people are rather quick to write off these types of stories as irrelevant or try to say that it's nothing to do with a particular grouping.
Originally Posted by pxd867:
“I was being mildly sarcastic my friend; my point was that some people are rather quick to write off these types of stories as irrelevant or try to say that it's nothing to do with a particular grouping.”
“I was being mildly sarcastic my friend; my point was that some people are rather quick to write off these types of stories as irrelevant or try to say that it's nothing to do with a particular grouping.”
Yeah right, I'll pretend I believe that.
Say what you mean next time, so much simpler.
Originally Posted by bradlad:
“I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.
I suppose ignorance is bliss for some though. And besides, it's only the young, white girls from poor backgrounds that they target, so what does it really matter?
I wonder if they started targeting middle class girls, would action from the authorities be swifter and harder? I shouldn't really wonder... as we all know the answer to that one!”
“I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.
I suppose ignorance is bliss for some though. And besides, it's only the young, white girls from poor backgrounds that they target, so what does it really matter?
I wonder if they started targeting middle class girls, would action from the authorities be swifter and harder? I shouldn't really wonder... as we all know the answer to that one!”
Ignorance does appear to be bliss, as long as it's not Asian Muslims, what does it really matter?
Pimps target vulnerable girls/boys it's as simple as that, they don't give a flying if they're middle class or working class, they're looking for particular personality types.
They do quite well with young girls in the care system too.
Mate of mine was in the care system when we were 15/16.
I got to meet a few people who'd been in the system most of their lives and heard a few stories about what the regular absconders got up to when they went missing for a few days.
Some even 'worked' out of the homes.
Originally Posted by aaa123:
“thats what I've been saying. Lets not forget the women who died fighting for democracy's life in Pakistan.”
“thats what I've been saying. Lets not forget the women who died fighting for democracy's life in Pakistan.”
But at whose hands did they die.
Originally Posted by bradlad:
“I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.”
“I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.”
Considering they only interviewed one person in a car, wonder where you got "they" from.
And his accent sounded Lancs to me - but then it is a foreign accent
Originally Posted by bradlad:
“I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.
I suppose ignorance is bliss for some though. And besides, it's only the young, white girls from poor backgrounds that they target, so what does it really matter?
I wonder if they started targeting middle class girls, would action from the authorities be swifter and harder? I shouldn't really wonder... as we all know the answer to that one!”
“I could tell they were pakistanis a mile off, as I suspect most people that live in the enriched north could tell from their accents.
I suppose ignorance is bliss for some though. And besides, it's only the young, white girls from poor backgrounds that they target, so what does it really matter?
I wonder if they started targeting middle class girls, would action from the authorities be swifter and harder? I shouldn't really wonder... as we all know the answer to that one!”
So is being groomed by a White gang better? You seem to be very big on the "fact" that the program was about "Muslim" Asians yet you seem to ignore the comments that it is a national problem and the ethnicity of the groups committing the crimes are related to the area they are from
Originally Posted by Craig //:
“Now if this was white men pimping out young Asians I think there'd be a lot of trouble caused.
”
“Now if this was white men pimping out young Asians I think there'd be a lot of trouble caused.
”
that may be the understatement of the year
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“Perhaps you should watch the program again, to refresh your memory
About one third of the program was in Wolverhampton - where they had successfully prosecuted a number of people involved in the trade, as opposed to 2 in Blackburn.
There was no claim that 100% of the abusers were Asian Muslims even in Blackburn - in fact the mention of Asian involvement was quite limited.
The people in cars weren't identified as Muslims, Asian, White, Afro-Caribbean or even Japanese. They did appear to have local accents though, so I suspect the people weren't of Japanese origin
In any case most of the program was about grooming children for sexual purposes and the lack of police effort in most areas to combat this crime.
It wasn't about Asian gangs”
“Perhaps you should watch the program again, to refresh your memory
About one third of the program was in Wolverhampton - where they had successfully prosecuted a number of people involved in the trade, as opposed to 2 in Blackburn.
There was no claim that 100% of the abusers were Asian Muslims even in Blackburn - in fact the mention of Asian involvement was quite limited.
The people in cars weren't identified as Muslims, Asian, White, Afro-Caribbean or even Japanese. They did appear to have local accents though, so I suspect the people weren't of Japanese origin
In any case most of the program was about grooming children for sexual purposes and the lack of police effort in most areas to combat this crime.
It wasn't about Asian gangs”
Dont need to watch the program again, but I think you should if you didnt recognise the accent of the man in the car as asian. As far as it being predominatly asians doing the abuse in blackburn even the local press acknowledge this as being the case - and they definately have nothing to gain by printing needless bad publicity about the local asian community. Anyway you seem intent on turning this thread into an anti muslim thread which it isnt
Originally Posted by Prince Monalulu:
“Ignorance does appear to be bliss, as long as it's not Asian Muslims, what does it really matter?
Pimps target vulnerable girls/boys it's as simple as that, they don't give a flying if they're middle class or working class, they're looking for particular personality types.
They do quite well with young girls in the care system too.
Mate of mine was in the care system when we were 15/16.
I got to meet a few people who'd been in the system most of their lives and heard a few stories about what the regular absconders got up to when they went missing for a few days.
Some even 'worked' out of the homes.”
“Ignorance does appear to be bliss, as long as it's not Asian Muslims, what does it really matter?
Pimps target vulnerable girls/boys it's as simple as that, they don't give a flying if they're middle class or working class, they're looking for particular personality types.
They do quite well with young girls in the care system too.
Mate of mine was in the care system when we were 15/16.
I got to meet a few people who'd been in the system most of their lives and heard a few stories about what the regular absconders got up to when they went missing for a few days.
Some even 'worked' out of the homes.”
And as for you - you seem to have made a full time job out of trawling DS threads for the words muslim, asian then taking offence
Originally Posted by craigy132:
“And as for you - you seem to have made a full time job out of trawling DS threads for the words muslim, asian then taking offence”
“And as for you - you seem to have made a full time job out of trawling DS threads for the words muslim, asian then taking offence”
Oh dear, try the content instead of getting personal, just for a change.
Yeah girls are apparently been groomed, forced into the sex trade all over the country, but you only care if it's Asian Muslims doing the pimping.
In this case I'd prefer to be wrong rather than your idea of right.
Oh I can post on any thread I like, you're not going to dictate to me on the content of my posts or what does or doesn't interest me.
Originally Posted by Prince Monalulu:
“Oh dear, try the content instead of getting personal, just for a change.
Yeah girls are apparently been groomed, forced into the sex trade all over the country, but you only care if it's Asian Muslims doing the pimping.
In this case I'd prefer to be wrong rather than your idea of right.
Oh I can post on any thread I like, you're not going to dictate to me on the content of my posts or what does or doesn't interest me.”
“Oh dear, try the content instead of getting personal, just for a change.
Yeah girls are apparently been groomed, forced into the sex trade all over the country, but you only care if it's Asian Muslims doing the pimping.
In this case I'd prefer to be wrong rather than your idea of right.
Oh I can post on any thread I like, you're not going to dictate to me on the content of my posts or what does or doesn't interest me.”
Wrong - where have I said I only care if its muslims. Its like your obsessed with exposing people as racists when they are not. How is the job hunting going by the way?
Originally Posted by craigy132:
“Wrong - where have I said I only care if its muslims. Its like your obsessed with exposing people as racists when they are not. How is the job hunting going by the way?”
“Wrong - where have I said I only care if its muslims. Its like your obsessed with exposing people as racists when they are not. How is the job hunting going by the way?”
Well there's a larger problem going on, as proven by the previous program in 1998, and IIRC 35 charged and 32 convicted, but you don't seem interested or ignoring it.
Oh dear, you've done the taking offense and job hunting thing before.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...2&postcount=40
Try reading it this time.
You'll be really happy to know I'm doing about an hours work a day, at a push, spend most of the day smoking and watching women, just got my contract extended today too.
I bet you're really happy for me aren't you.
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