A bit narky? A bit? She was downright vicious. Very overbearing and rude. That sort of attitude is not going to inspire others and can only create friction. By all means speak to slackers but don't berate them in front of others, especially in such a manner.

Ooooh, she made me fume.

I love the apprentice, usualy for the right reasons, but the firing tonight was an "entertainment value" stitch-up. It is so obvious niether Jenny de Ville or Lucinda-Hamilton-Crybaby-knapkin are going to win...

Did you notice that Raef takes his coffee black... like his men AND eyeliner

But the villain never wins though. And I don't think the victim ever wins either.

Exactly!

I agree - it is clear neither Jenny nor Lucinda will win but I think Jenny should have been fired. Firstly she demotivated her team to start with and lost precious time and then proceeded to annoy almost everyone. She was a poor manager and didnt make up for it through sales or graft. She was really unnecessarily nasty and I wouldnt want to come across her in the workplace.

Agreed. Jenny should have gone. Now she thinks she's got away with it. Lucinda was pretty bad too and I wouldn't have complained if she had gone either, however I do genuinely think her tears were only because she was humiliated that someone else (Shazir I thnk, wasn't it? In the cab?) stood up to Jenny for her and that made her ashamed that she hadn't stood up to herself better.

It isn't productive to say so, but Jenny is a skanking hatchet-faced bag. I would love to see her talk to someone like me in that way! No boss of mine has dared speak to me that way for years, I just will not put up with it - but then I do have knack of making sure I'm too useful to lose without being more trouble than it's worth... except when I got made redundant 4 years ago and on that occasion I had been angling for it for a couple of years because I was bored with the job and wanted the lump sum...

I really feel sorry for Shazir. That was a real bum rap. I can't help thinking that Sir A only fired her because he didn't want to reward either Jenny or Lucinda by firing the other. Shazir was the "extra", like the poor chap on Star Trek that gets sent on the "Away" missions just because they need someone expendable to get killed by the alien.

Exactly like Sir A said, her most heinous crime was a bit of a laudry mix up. The others were guilty of much worse:

Jenny of being an unpleasant harridan who likes to have a scapegoat. Always a bad sign.

Lucinda of using emotional blackmail, and even if that was unintentional she did miss the morning meeting which was unforgivable under the circumstances and she should have had a much better excuse than she did have in order for it not to look like a childish retaliation. It looked as though she herself had sunk to an unprofessional level and she did nothing to rectify that.

It doesn't matter how much my boss upsets me, I never come in late in retaliation, nor do I have time "off sick" because of it. I keep smiling. This wins the respect of my colleagues and usually encourages the boss to develop a better attitude. I'm not even a high-powered person, so if I can do that then Lucinda jolly well ought to have been able to!

I really do believe that if Lucinda had got up in time for the meeting and carried on as if nothing had happened (even keeping quiet if she couldn't find anything constructive to say) then Sir A would not have minded firing Jenny. As it was, he didn't want to fire either because he knew it would seem to the other as if they had won and clearly he didn't want either to win.

Poor Shazir was the sacrificial lamb, no doubt about it. She did not deserve it. I'm very glad to see the audience on "You're Fired" agreed as well.

one thing's for sure - you're fired is going to be even more entertaining than usual when she does eventually go! What's the betting that bra woman has bagged a place on the panel for the week jenny goes

What I vile, loathsome woman! She reminded me of a really bad teacher who'd lost it!

She wouldn't let anyone have a say because she knew that they would expose the fact that she didn't have a clue.

She won't win, but she'll stay in for a bit longer as she's emerged as an early 'character.'

That woman is rotten to the core. My jaw dropped at the way she turned on Shazia like that.

If SAS thinks she will have the same pulling power as Kate last year he is very mistaken. As much as I hated her she was crafty and clever in her methods and none of the others coped on until to late.

A very bad decision that even Margaret tried to steer him away from.

Am I the only one who liked her? I mean you gotta admit she's tough whereas Lucinda just seemed a bit wet... I did think Jenny should have been fired, but she stuck up for herself so well in the boardroom now I like her.

LOL! What a shame for Shazir though, eh? Sir A was clearly wishing he was able to sack two people tonight! I doubt either of the othe two will get much work after this because they don't even have the charisma to be TV hosts, unlike the awful one who nearly won last year but turned it down (what's her name?).

If sticking up for yourself = being vile, rude and delusional in an assessment of candidates' worth - "You contibuted nothing" - then you're justified in liking her, I suppose. Put it this way: would you want to work with her, or do you admire her brash, uncouth personality?

If Lucinda genuinely deliberately missed that morning meeting, she was daft. That was a time to rise above it all and try and continue on.

But at the same time, Jenny's attack on her was completely ridiculous. I think it was understandable Lucinda would be upset. She was right at the beginning to question Jenny's master plan. She probably acted childishly during the actual laundry though - but nothing to warrant Jenny's tirade.

Jenny should've gone.

Agree with you, There was something about katy that was entertaining, Jenny has no charm whatsoever, I think this was Sir Alan's worst decision and done solely for ratings

Time will tell...!

As for being tough, well so's old boot leather. I agree about Lucinda though. However, I think Jenny stuck up for herself very badly in the boardroom. She never shut up. Sir Alan noticed. You can't possibly be a good manager unless you sometimes listen.

better to be disliked than not noticed ..i do agree that mayb they keeping stronger characters in since last year for TV ratings, even if they muck up ...

I agree with you all apart from the last bit. I doubt he did it for the ratings. Lucinda was fairly awful too and I am fairly sure that he fired Shazir simply because he did not want either Lucinda or Jenny to gain the satisfaction of the other being fired. He knows, and he said as much, that they both deserved the sack. I also think that in his words to Shazir "Your only heinous crime is..." he was intimating that he knew she didn't deserve the sack but he had no other way forward without rewarding someone who had done worse.

I can think of a few historical figures that might agree with you

But then would you be saying that if you were about to end your life in a bunker or at the end of a rope?

This is so true. I actually quite liked Katy! She was a bitch but did have charm. Jenny has zero charisma and charm.

Sticking up for herself in the boardroom makes her likable??? She just came across as a sly, vicious bitch - determined to bring anyone down. It is characters like her that gives business a bad name. During the task she failed on so many levels - the initial meeting where she talked nonsense about selling and wasted time; the lack of research which led to those ridiculous quotes (which no one seemed to bring up); the lack of organisation and communication; and then her abrasive character which annoyed most of her teamates. She treated Lucinda unfairly, and whilst Lucinda's response showed why she will never be suited to working for SAS, Jenny was just vile. I am aware the production team try and make the contestants into charicatures and only show one side to them - but Jenny came over really, really, badly.

Jenny was a complete cow. She was the one that suggested £4.99 per item daft boot and she should have made sure she knew what was going on with the labelling system before she let her that got fired go.

I thought it should of been her or the black girl (don't know her name) cos she done three stupid things :

1. Hotline for your washing

2. Yeah £15 for all that washing

3. Lets ask people for tips.

She's stupid and has no sense of customer service or business sense.

I really hate Jenny, I'd have punched her had I been her that got fired for the lies she was telling and the clear scapegoating to get her out of the shit. Devious cow.

I just read the Live Blog from the Guardian website, and loads of people agreed that Jenny should have gone.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgri...our_epi_1.html

Keeping Cruella de Vil in is Alan Sugar's worst decision in the programme's history eclipsing the firing of Miriam in the first series.