Jenny seemed full of insecurities to me. Positively desperate. Why did she need a formal meeting in the middle of the project? They're given time for that at the beginning and, given the time constraints imposed on them, they should develop enough of a plan in those early stages to just get on with it.

Meetings just make me mad. There are just too many meetings in the world for no good reason!

As an aside, I'm not sure I'd like to work for bra lady. I bet she's a right old harridan: Suralan in a dress. Jenny was just copying Alan Sugar's management style when she kept telling Lucinda to shut upbecause she was talking. He does that all the time. If these business people really think they're 'people persons' and their staff like them because they're easy to get on with, they're deluded ... they like you because you own the company!

But this has absolutely nothing to do with the business world. As others have said it is an entertainment show and the decisions are made purely on that basis.

Despite the 'prize' at the end I doubt that, without the involvement of the BBC, he would have anything to do with any of these muppets.

Jenny is one of those people who has the gift-of-the-gab and extremely loud / dominating when they want to put therir point acorss (e.g. when she was arguing with Lucinda in the taxi, she wouldn't even let the poor girl speak) therefore she managed to talk her way out of being fired. However, I do feel she deserved to go.

This is my first series and I must admit I wondered how much Sir Alan's decisions are business vs entertainment value. In a way, I think Shazia was the most competent of the three up for the sack, but was also the least interesting.

As a viewer, I suppose it is much more interesting to see dreadful Jenny and tearful Lucinda to stay for a rematch. I do think though (having worked for dreadful bosses like Jenny myself) that The Apprentice needs to demonstrate that bullying isn't considered acceptable business practice, even in an artificial environment like this.

I think the show last night just demonstrates how out of touch and 2-dimensional Alan Sugar is these days. He has become a parody of himself and any justification to involve himself on the show he originally gave is now up ion smoke given that his 'decisions' are purely to make entertaining TV, and not to critique anyones genuine business skills or potential.

The man is becoming more of a muppet each season

He defintely made the wrong decision last night. The way he was speaking towards the end I thought he was going to fire Jenny.

Shazia was the least expected to go out of the three for me!

She was told to go back to the house to look for the irons by Jenny, which then caused the laundry to be mixed up.

Total Scapegoat, I felt sure Lucinda was for the chop after not turning up for the meeting at 7am.

I think the ghastly Jennifer was spared because she's 'good tv' and we all need a hate figure. She's a nasty, insecure bully who will fall flat on her ugly pointy face and get fired eventually. Or one of her scarves will turn on her.

Cannot imagine why anyone would ever want to work for gorilla-in-a-bad suit Suralan with his stone age views, limited vocab and mega chip-on-the-shoulder. Vulgar tyke. £100k? Not enough sweetheart!

I love the show. It's cringe-making, hilarious, shocking and funny all at the same time.

Thought Simon was absolutely ace last night. What a star that man is! Raef with the Bad Haircut did create a real Boyz R Us team testosterone bonding culture. The boys were good, although their apres task and win groping was a bit much! Like a gaggle of excited puppies on speed

Absolutely - Katie had a brain and was efficient - if you could get her on side, she's probably do great at her job. Jenny is just a hopeless muppet though.

Yeah Katie had her opinions and made no qualms about expressing them to us. However she always kept them seperate from the task.

Even with Kristina, who she seemed to hate with a passion, when it came to working with each other they got on quite well and made quite a winning team on occasions. They never let their personal feelings get in the way of the job in hand.

Katie could bitch for England to camera and in the boardroom but when it came to the task her focus was to win and if that meant working with people she despised so be it. When she led a task it was harmonious and she maintained a level of respect and professionalism even if she did go home and start sticking pins in her teammates dolls once it had all finished.

Interesting it appears that Shazir appears to blame Helene more. Was surprised at how vicious she came up with that incorrect fact - and that allowed the ogre (Jenni) to get the victim.

I've requested a poll.

A poll on what, who should have gone/was to blame?

Katie was an excellent team leader. She was scheming and cruel behind backs etc but she could lead a team to get a task done...Jenny cannot.

Who should Sir Alan have fired in the second episode out of the three in the board room.

He could have been thinking - this three are all going soon anyway, so it doesn't matter which is first.

Don't like Jenny, but ahe's not as two-faced as the venomous Katie.

In my opinion, the show's more about entertainment now than it originally was and saving Jenny and Lucinda is probably going to make things more entertaining in the long-run.

Shazia definately shouldn't have gone - she wasn't to blame for anything that went wrong in the task because she was instructed on what to do by Jenny.

But back to the title of the thread... Yes, Jenny should've gone.

In the Mirror today, Shazia said that Lucinda went to bed as soon as they got to the house and didn't know about the meeting - well, not until the next day and none of us know what was said to her by the three people who were apparently sent upstairs to get her!

If that's true then why on earth did Lucinda not say so instead of saying she didn't mean to oversleep?!

That was the problem for me - the show ceased to be anything to do with the business world and became just another reality show designed to offer the maximum entertainment by keeping in 'characters'. I preferred the illusion that it actually was a very long job interview ...

I have no idea, beamsley! She really didn't make enough of the way in which she'd been treated either. In fact I can't really remember what she DID say!

I know what you mean - but he's always made some dodgy decisions. I thought firing Miriam (series 1) after she was so good on the selling on TV task and had been solid all the way through, was an odd decision.

Saira reaching the final over James Max was also strange to me since Saira alienated so many people with her pushy style.

He seems to always pick the quiet ones in the end. The ones he can handle, but he likes to put the characters through to the end Tre, Sayed, Ruth Badger and Paul series 1

I couldn't believe it, completely the wrong person went last night. It should have been Jenny. She was compared to Katie on the BBC2 show afterwards. She may have been pretty nasty like Katie but at least Katie has a brain, this horrible woman doesn't. I hope she goes soon she is spoiling the show for me.

I spelt it like that on PURPOSE as it's never pronounced Sir. Alan. It's always pronounced as one rushed word i.e. Sirallan or Surallen. Spelling may vary.

S'ralan makes duff decisions from time to time e.g. as stated above, the firing of Miriam and also the lawyer, Karen, from one of the earlier series. He's also susceptible to being fooled by other women e.g. Katie and Michelle.

I don't think the production team lead him to his decisions: maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick but, as I understand it, the only time they stepped in was when he was about to offer Katie the job and I think they had a word in his shell-like and the scene was re-shot.

Fabulous tv though. I like the new tasks and the fact they're not following the same old same old format re. the tasks as on previous series - shopping task:yawn: