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There is hope that Cam wont win!
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Michael2
23-07-2003
This is the final R1:SE poll from last year

Alex took 30% of votes, compared to Kate's 29%. Jade was in third with 23%, whilst Jonny came last with 18%.


(from ds news last year)

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds3078.html


the actual results last year were VERY different!

Jonny came second after massing many more votes than the polls showed.(why I dont know!!..didnt like the guy at all..but there ya go).

So maybe the polls this year are wrong and someone like Scott or even Ray will win?.
woodruff
23-07-2003
We can but hope.
KriZ
23-07-2003
DON'T HOPE - VOTE!

AND VOTE SCOTT NOW - EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE SCOTT, DO YOU REALLY WANT SHAMERON?

Scott is by far the closest - A vote for Scott is a vote against Shameron!
Felix&Molly
23-07-2003
Since the start of BB4 I have been an avid reader of the dsbb forum.
I find it hard to beleive that there are so many simpletons out there who seem to think that Jon Tickle is the be all and end all of their life. Jon is an arrogant narrow minded so and so and should never have been allowed to have returned to the BB house, he was voted out by the public why???? beacuse he was not liked ! He thinks that he is on a special mission and his head has got so big that he will probably never be able to leave the BB house, why should he be allowed to stay for the last week , HE WAS VOTED OUT do people not understand that. Best thing that could happen would be a surprise eviction for JON TICKLE this week and that would wipe the smarmy smile of his ugly face!!!!! (preferably out the back door and not the front)

VOTE Cameron he is the ony winner of BB4!!!!!!
Straker
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Felix&Molly
Since the start of BB4 I have been an avid reader of the dsbb forum.
I find it hard to beleive that there are so many simpletons out there who seem to think that Jon Tickle is the be all and end all of their life. Jon is an arrogant narrow minded so and so and should never have been allowed to have returned to the BB house, he was voted out by the public why???? beacuse he was not liked ! He thinks that he is on a special mission and his head has got so big that he will probably never be able to leave the BB house, why should he be allowed to stay for the last week , HE WAS VOTED OUT do people not understand that. Best thing that could happen would be a surprise eviction for JON TICKLE this week and that would wipe the smarmy smile of his ugly face!!!!! (preferably out the back door and not the front)

VOTE Cameron he is the ony winner of BB4!!!!!!
”


What a perfect definition of a minority opinion.
Felix&Molly
23-07-2003
What a perfect answer from a pea brain!
Purnah
23-07-2003
I can't remember how this was handled last year, but as the 4th, 3rd places are announced, does voting still continue for the remaining HMs - like the double eviction?

If so, it'll help people decide whom to load their votes onto if they are keener on negative voting ('anyone but Cameron') rather than positive voting ('Cam to win!').

As we saw with Jon's reinsertion, an awful lot of votes can be cast in just a hour or so on Friday night.
Felix&Molly
23-07-2003
If my memory serves me correctly, I am sure you are still able to vote on the remaining housemates until the bitter end.
LauraBelle
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Straker
What a perfect definition of a minority opinion. ”

Let's hope it is a minority Straker

Baton down the hatches folks!! It seems fascism is still alive and kicking
Straker
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Felix&Molly
What a perfect answer from a pea brain! ”


Well, aren’t you just a valued new member to these forums? You lack the intellectual capacity and/or wit to pen a decent comeback, you rudely dismiss the year’s most entertaining HM, call his admirers "simpletons" and in the same breath praise the victorian throwback fish trader. .


I suppose we should be grateful you’ve kept your ill-informed and ill-considered opinions to yourself up until now.
Michael2
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Felix&Molly
Since the start of BB4 I have been an avid reader of the dsbb forum.
I find it hard to beleive that there are so many simpletons out there who seem to think that Jon Tickle is the be all and end all of their life. Jon is an arrogant narrow minded so and so and should never have been allowed to have returned to the BB house, he was voted out by the public why???? beacuse he was not liked ! He thinks that he is on a special mission and his head has got so big that he will probably never be able to leave the BB house, why should he be allowed to stay for the last week , HE WAS VOTED OUT do people not understand that. Best thing that could happen would be a surprise eviction for JON TICKLE this week and that would wipe the smarmy smile of his ugly face!!!!! (preferably out the back door and not the front)

VOTE Cameron he is the ony winner of BB4!!!!!!
”

dont call people with different opiniions simpletons. you really dont want to get off to a bad start here now do you.
thank you.

a lot of us dont agree with you, thats life.
Felix&Molly
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by LauraBelle
Let's hope it is a minority Straker

Baton down the hatches folks!! It seems fascism is still alive and kicking
”



Fascism??? please explain????
Felix&Molly
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Michael2
dont call people with different opiniions simpletons. you really dont want to get off to a bad start here now do you.
thank you.

a lot of us dont agree with you, thats life.
”


I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinions and certainly most people have voiced theirs on more than one occassion on this forum.
Why not take a step back and actually read what other poeple are saying it is obvious from what is being written that if you don't like Jon Tickle then you are not allowed to have an opinion here.
natural lamer
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Felix&Molly
What a perfect answer from a pea brain! ”

Err? Come on, there's no need for that.
sonof.
23-07-2003
well heres the latest betting at ladbrokes

scotts is getting longer and camerons is shorten all the time.

2003 Big Brother

Cameron 1/6
Scott 5/1
Ray 12/1
Steph 33/1
Michael2
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Felix&Molly
I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinions and certainly most people have voiced theirs on more than one occassion on this forum.
Why not take a step back and actually read what other poeple are saying it is obvious from what is being written that if you don't like Jon Tickle then you are not allowed to have an opinion here.
”

hang on a sec. tjhis thread is expressing a hope that Cameron wont win. who said anything about Jon Tickle?
If you have issues about him or people who like him,then start another thread because here its off topic.
LauraBelle
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Felix&Molly
Fascism??? please explain???? ”

Shameron....Win BB.....might as well be voting for Hitler
Nathalie
23-07-2003
Felix&Molly I agree with you on some things (not on Cameron winning as I don't really like him) BUT! I have to say I have found things a bit tiresome on here this year with the Jon Worshippers. So much so I tried switching to another board and got sick of the Scott is fit threads!!!! So I came back. this is the best board for intellect and interesting threads but so biased to Jon its unreal. I agree about Jon and wish that fans would remember he is just a contestant in a game show just like all of them are!!!!!

As we say here in Geordie land "Jon get yer coat and **** off"
Hamlet77
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by LauraBelle
Shameron....Win BB.....might as well be voting for Hitler ”

Oh for f***s sake, get a little realism in your life will you, that has to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever made on this board.

Instead of sitting there brooding about the loss of your favourite, try reading a history of the WW2.

Comparing ANY game show contestant to Adolf Hitler really does not do you justice and insults anyone who has suffered at the hands of prejudice.
Felix&Molly
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Nathalie
Felix&Molly I agree with you on some things (not on Cameron winning as I don't really like him) BUT! I have to say I have found things a bit tiresome on here this year with the Jon Worshippers. So much so I tried switching to another board and got sick of the Scott is fit threads!!!! So I came back. this is the best board for intellect and interesting threads but so biased to Jon its unreal. I agree about Jon and wish that fans would remember he is just a contestant in a game show just like all of them are!!!!!

As we say here in Geordie land "Jon get yer coat and **** off"
”

Thank you Nathalie, I was beginning to think I was stuck in a very bad dream.
Twinkle
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Micheal2
Jonny came second after massing many more votes than the polls showed.(why I dont know!!..didnt like the guy at all..but there ya go).”

Hard as some may find it to believe, Alex was not that popular, funny he may have been at times, but negative and whinging was most peoples opinion. Last year a lot of people saw it as a 'double act against double act', and voted accordingly. After Jade was evicted votes probably poured in for Kate and Johnny to make sure that Alex wasn't in the final two.
bbbookboy
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by LauraBelle
Shameron....Win BB.....might as well be voting for Hitler ”

saying this is way way more offensive than anything Cameron has said.
Hamlet77
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by bbbookboy
saying this is way way more offensive than anything Cameron has said. ”

Thank you, I had begun to question the sanity of the FMs.
bbbookboy
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Hamlet77
Thank you, I had begun to question the sanity of the FMs. ”

Hamlet - lots of people have been making hitler/cameron analogies and whenever I see one I try to reply. It's disgusting, insulting and insensitive to make such a comparison. Some people here really are hypocrites - they go on and on about how horrible Cameron is and then make comments like that....
father
23-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Purnah
I can't remember how this was handled last year, but as the 4th, 3rd places are announced, does voting still continue for the remaining HMs - like the double eviction?

If so, it'll help people decide whom to load their votes onto if they are keener on negative voting ('anyone but Cameron') rather than positive voting ('Cam to win!').

As we saw with Jon's reinsertion, an awful lot of votes can be cast in just a hour or so on Friday night.
”

AFAIK, you are still eligible to cast votes after 4th and 3rd are announced. However, the timeframe is slim and the crucial question is whether or not tactical voting at that late stage will have any bearing on the final outcome. Can somebody remind us how close last year's final votes were?

The indicators point toward Steph being 4th (alas woe is me) and, assuming tactical voting occurs, the likelihood is some of her supporters then switching to Cameron.

Ray / Scott coming 3rd leaves only a marginal window for transferred support to the other. I appreciate your point about Jon's reinsertion and the frenzied dialling on that day but the size of Cameron's lead, if the current bookies odds are indeed accurate, is already sufficient to defeat any late swing against him. Millions of votes have already been cast.

The underlying problem, as has been mentioned on this forum numerous times, is that the vote is being split between Ray and Scott so that transferred allegiance at a very late stage will have minimal impact on the final result.
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