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Dr Who Ratings Thread (Merged)
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oathy
24-08-2014
6.79 Million for last night
2Legit2Quit
24-08-2014
Only 6.8 million, I'm quite surprised.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2014/08...ep-breath.html
sw2963
24-08-2014
It goes to show that there is roughly 7 million core overnight audience plus 2-3million timeshifters
Muttley76
24-08-2014
Wow, I'm normally an optimist but for an episode relaunching the new Doctor, an episode which has had huge promotion, thats kind of low , even though I am sure it will time shift well.
Muttley76
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by sw2963:
“It goes to show that there is roughly 7 million core overnight audience plus 2-3million timeshifters”

Big event episodes you would expect to rate higher though, and they have done perviously.
grazey1985
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Wow, I'm normally an optimist but for an episode relaunching the new Doctor, an episode which has had huge promotion, thats kind of low , even though I am sure it will time shift well.”

Its up half a million from season 7s overnight opener which had the big draw of daleks. Also there were a lot of people watching at the cinema. Remember this isn't the final viewing figures either. These are just overnight figures.
Muttley76
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by grazey1985:
“Its up half a million from season 7s overnight opener which had the big draw of daleks. Also there were a lot of people watching at the cinema. Remember this isn't the final viewing figures either. These are just overnight figures.”

As I said, it will time shift well, but this isn't just a new series it's a new era of the show with a new Doctor. It's not comparable with the series 7 opener really. The promotion has been enormous. They would have been expecting higher overnights than this.

eta: cinema audience won't be a significant factor whatsoever, you are talking tens of thousands maybe 100,000 total at most.
Mulett
24-08-2014
Also, remember all of BBC1's Saturday evening shows (Tumble, Casualty etc) have been only getting about 3m-4m viewers for the past few weeks. So 7m as an overnight is a MASSIVE leap for the channel.

The share was 32.5% and its most watched series opener since 2010. So pretty good in all.

Episode 2 is always the real decider, though.
DICKENS99
24-08-2014
5 minute breakdown will be interesting, the last half was more interesting than the first...I wonder how many people attracted by the hype about a more serious and dramatic approach will have turned off after 20 minutes of an incoherent Doctor, a dinosaur in the Thames and the Victorian comedy troupe.
grazey1985
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“As I said, it will time shift well, but this isn't just a new series it's a new era of the show with a new Doctor. It's not comparable with the series 7 opener really. The promotion has been enormous. They would have been expecting higher overnights than this. ”

7 million viewers is a fantastic achievement on a Saturday night. The days when 8 plus million viewers tune in weekly is gone. It does happen but its very rare. More and more are choosing when to watch on iplayer than watch it live.
Muttley76
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by grazey1985:
“ The days when 8 plus million viewers tune in weekly is gone. It does happen but its very rare. More and more are choosing when to watch on iplayer than watch it live.”

I know all of this, I'm normally one that is trying to add the correct context when people over react to overnights. However, I'm sorry but there is no getting around that with the massive promotion, the later time slot, the fact they are effectively relaunching the show, that the expectation would have been for more than 6.8 million even on overnights. It's not the end of the world, but it is disappointing.
mboon
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by 2Legit2Quit:
“Only 6.8 million, I'm quite surprised.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2014/08...ep-breath.html”

It was the top rated show on any channel by over two and a half million viewers! A programme that was being screened in cinemas all over the country and shown on iPlayer etc. If the BBC are 'disappointed' by the overnight figure then they must be suicidal over the rest of their output.
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mboon
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I know all of this, I'm normally one that is trying to add the correct context when people over react to overnights. However, I'm sorry but there is no getting around that with the massive promotion, the later time slot, the fact they are effectively relaunching the show, that the expectation would have been for more than 6.8 million even on overnights. It's not the end of the world, but it is disappointing.”

All depends whose expectation you're talking about. Very much doubt it would have been the BBC's.
CELT1987
24-08-2014
I thought it would be higher to be honest. I have a feeling that this series isn't going to be good.
Muttley76
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by mboon:
“All depends whose expectation you're talking about. Very much doubt it would have been the BBC's.”

Okay, the ratings are amazing, the BBC will be jumping through hoops. I clearly know nothing about the topic even after all these years of posting about them on this forum. I must have banged my head somewhere without realising and suffered some form of brain injury.
claire2281
24-08-2014
It IS a disappointing rating given the sheer overwhelming amount of promotion they gave this. Eleventh Hour (which is the last comparable episode really) was 8million and didn't have nearly as much build up. It also barely out rated the last 2 series premières and considering a new Doctor usually boosts the ratings that's not great. It's solid but lacklustre considering how much they've pushed it.

The share is of course good but that's unsurprising with the lack of competition. It held fairly steady throughout although bizarrely dropped to 6.3million by 9pm.

Tbh though they gave it a chance by putting it on later but the show has just started too early. This is not a good time of year for it and it should have been partnering Strictly in autumn proper.
oathy
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“It IS a disappointing rating given the sheer overwhelming amount of promotion they gave this. Eleventh Hour (which is the last comparable episode really) was 8million and didn't have nearly as much build up.

The share is of course good but that's unsurprising with the lack of competition. It held fairly steady throughout although bizarrely dropped to 6.3million by 9pm.

Tbh though they gave it a chance by putting it on later but the show has just started too early. This is not a good time of year for it and it should have been partnering Strictly in autumn proper.”

I feel terrible saying it but not surprised I actually went off and got a cup of tea
my nephew and niece gaveup after 40 mins Mum also stopped watching.
New Doctor new series the story wasn't strong enough last night. DT spent most of his first episode flat on his back but it worked because the story was strong. What we had last night was a very strong relationship reset between Clara and the doctor. Clara's character finally getting some depth but the other aspects just didn't hold my attention at all. I actually just wanted to see more of the new doctor. The arty farty scene at the end just didn't work for me either
Muttley76
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“It IS a disappointing rating given the sheer overwhelming amount of promotion they gave this. Eleventh Hour (which is the last comparable episode really) was 8million and didn't have nearly as much build up. It also barely out rated the last 2 series premières and considering a new Doctor usually boosts the ratings that's not great. It's solid but lacklustre considering how much they've pushed it.
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The 11th Hour had 8.3 overnights, as HD was reported separately back the. Final rating was 10.09 (again with HD added in). If this episode manages a time shift of 3 million it will get to 9.8 million, so I think thats what we have to hope for. It would at least put it in a comparable ballpark.
mboon
24-08-2014
Just to add, The Eleventh Hour was four years ago. Do people not realize how much viewing habits have changed, even in that time? No one is saying the overnight figure is Earth shattering. My own prediction was 7 million, rising to a final figure of 9.5 million and I expect not to be too far away. Whatever the final result, the claim that the BBC will be disappointed that they had the top rated show on a Saturday night (by over two and a half million) IS ridiculous. Maybe they'll ban all further simultaneous cinema screenings (and forfeit any profit) in future to lower fans 'expectations'.
CD93
24-08-2014
Most watched programme of the day - that is the thing to highlight. By a margin of 2.6 million.

I didn't know Saturday nights were so low for the BBC at the moment. Haven't paid much attention.
grazey1985
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“It IS a disappointing rating given the sheer overwhelming amount of promotion they gave this. Eleventh Hour (which is the last comparable episode really) was 8million and didn't have nearly as much build up. It also barely out rated the last 2 series premières and considering a new Doctor usually boosts the ratings that's not great. It's solid but lacklustre considering how much they've pushed it.

The share is of course good but that's unsurprising with the lack of competition. It held fairly steady throughout although bizarrely dropped to 6.3million by 9pm.

Tbh though they gave it a chance by putting it on later but the show has just started too early. This is not a good time of year for it and it should have been partnering Strictly in autumn proper.”

In 2010 iplayer wasn't anywhere near the popular juggernaut it is now. More people are willing to go and watch it when it suits them rather than watch it live these days. Still think when the final viewing figures are announced it will still hit 10 million not including the thousands that saw it at the cinema
Mulett
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Most watched programme of the day - that is the thing to highlight. By a margin of 2.6 million.

I didn't know Saturday nights were so low for the BBC at the moment. Haven't paid much attention.”

Saturday nights are an out and out disaster for the BBC at the moment. That's why 7m is a massive success for them - particularly for a show that has a disproportionately large difference between overnights and final viewing figures.

I think the show will settle down to 5-6m in overnights and 7-8m in finals. And the BBC will be perfectly happy with that.
Michael_Eve
24-08-2014
I was predicting around 7.5 million, so not that close, but do still think the final figure will be around 10 million so not too shabby. TIA and Asylum got lower overnights. Anyone know by how much they time shifted?
CD93
24-08-2014
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“I was predicting around 7.5 million, so not that close, but do still think the final figure will be around 10 million so not too shabby. TIA and Asylum got lower overnights. Anyone know by how much they time shifted?”

TIA: 6.52 -> 8.86
AoTD: 6.4 -> 8.3 (also iPlayer record breaker)

Mullet!

Quote:
“2.9m - All Star Family Fortunes 20:45 ITV 1”

Please tell me this was new!
Mulett
24-08-2014
Do we know if Casualty got a lift in viewers as a result?

Oh and . . .

Originally Posted by CD93:
“TIA: 6.52 -> 8.86
AoTD: 6.4 -> 8.3 (also iPlayer record breaker)

Mullet!

2.9m - All Star Family Fortunes 20:45 ITV 1

Please tell me this was new!”

Thank you for pointing that one out CD93. I've no idea if it was a new one though - do you think ITV1 thought it was their strongest weapon against the new episode?
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