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Dr Who Ratings Thread (Merged)
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davebt
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I didn't say increase, I said change either way

The basic point is very simple - people have decided whether they like Moffat's DW or not by now. Changing the lead actor makes no difference to that. A change of showrunner means a different feel to the show, a chance of a different direction etc. You'd likely get people tuning in out of curiosity (as they do for a regeneration) and that could boost the ratings if they found they liked the new style more. Of course it could also have the opposite effect. Or it could have no effect at all. I certainly don't think changing showrunner WOULD massive effect the ratings but realistically it's the only thing that COULD.

Casting Capaldi has made no different (the show continues to trickle slowly downwards in average ratings but in a manner that should have no one concerned) because it's still Moffat's DW and stylistically little has changed since that is how Moffat writes/showruns. He can make minor tweeks but he still has his own particular style. A new showrunner could bring a very different style and it'd be interesting to see how audiences react to that.

As it is, I do think Moffat should hand it over after series 9 - 5 series is more than enough and there's a risk of it going stale if they don't bring some fresh talent in behind the scenes.”

Going stale? DW has to be the least 'stale' show in the history of television. As for the premise, only us 'fans' care about the 'show runner'.....for the vast majority, the general audience, there is the Doctor, the companion and the monster. Nothing else matters.
Horsebite
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by Yog101:
“Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m



I wonder if we'll reach 7m

Time adjustment will see a shift of around +35k.”

That's absolutely amazing. I hope it tops "The Name of the Doctor" which got 7.57m.
Michael_Eve
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by Yog101:
“Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m



I wonder if we'll reach 7m

Time adjustment will see a shift of around +35k.”

Cheers Yog.

Niiiice.

Word of mouth, etc. should mean a healthy final figure and hopfully a knock on effect for the finale. Where I believe it's a straight choice at 8pm between Who and that other programme. Choose wisely Britain.

S'all good.
CD93
03-11-2014
The BBC made it quite clear that there is only one place to be at 8pm on Saturday

Repost of the AI since it was trailed off.

85
CD93
03-11-2014
The Ratings Thread have summed up DW's performance over the years.

Quote:
“And it looks as though on the final figures this season will average a little over 7 million, which puts it only 5-10% down on the average ratings of all the past seasons since 2005 - even though this year it has faced by far its strongest consistent opposition in TXF. Let's face it, Corrie, EE and New Tricks would all kill to be getting ratings within 10% of what they were pulling nine years ago...”

Quote:
“The point is that if DW can add as many new viewers as it is losing old ones that is a signal achievement which the soaps are certainly not matching...”

Incidentally, if the finale can match the AI, the average for Series 8 will be 84. Series 7b went out with 85 - by comparison. Not much of an impact after all. Worth noting just to put in to perspective how easily the AI for the series will be tipped between 83 and 84.
SJB 2007
03-11-2014
The story so far...

SERIES 8

1. Deep Breath. Overnight rating: 6.8m (32.5%) Final rating: 9.17m (37.9%) AI: 82 [TS 2.37m]

2. Into The Dalek. Overnight rating: 5.2 million (24.7%) Final rating: 7.29m AI: 84 [TS 2.09m]

3. Robot of Sherwood. Overnight rating: 5.2 million (25.4%) Final rating: 7.28m. AI: 82 [TS 2.08m]

4. Listen. Overnight rating: 4.81 million (23.5%) Final rating: 7.01m AI: 82 [TS 2.20m]

5. Time Heist. Overnight rating: 4.93 million (23.8%) Final rating: 6.99m AI: 84 [TS 2.06]

6. The Caretaker. Overnight rating: 4.89 million. Final Rating: 6.82m : AI: 83 [TS 1.93m]

7. Kill The Moon. Overnight rating: 4.81 million. Final Rating: 6.91m. AI 82 [TS 2.10m]

8. Mummy On The Orient Express. Overnight rating: 5.08m. Final Rating: 7.11m (26.6%) . AI 85 [TS 2.03m]

9. Flatline. Overnight rating: 4.60m (20.1%) Final rating: 6.71m (25.5%) AI: 85 [TS 2.11m]

10. In the Forest of the Night. Overnight rating: 5.03m (21.6%) Final rating: 6.92m (26.3%) AI: 83 [TS 1.89m]

11. Dark Water. Overnight rating: 5.27m. Final rating: TBA. AI: 85

Series 8 average [After 10 episodes ] : 7.21m [Time Shift Average: 2.06m]

Series 8 Overnight Average : 5.14m

Doctor Who overnight series averages

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7.3m- Series 1: Overnight average (13 episodes)
7.2m- Series 2: Overnight average (13 episodes)
7.0m- Series 3: Overnight average (13 episodes)
7.2m- Series 4: Overnight average (13 episodes)
6.0m- Series 5: Overnight average (13 episodes)
5.7m- Series 6: Overnight average (13 episodes)
5.5m - Series 7: Overnight average (13 episodes)
Doctor Who final series averages

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7.94m- Series 1: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)
7.71m- Series 2: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)
7.55m- Series 3: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)
8.05m- Series 4: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)
7.73m- Series 5: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)
7.52m- Series 6: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)
7.44m- Series 7: Final BARB rating average (13 episodes)

[Thanks to Gallifrey Base for the series ratings information ]
Yog101
03-11-2014
28 Day consolidation:
Deep Breath: 9.529m (7 day consolidated: 9.169m)
Into the Dalek: 7.672m (7 day consolidated: 7.286m)
Robot of Sherwood: 7.707 (7 Day consolidated: 7.277m)
Listen: 7.426m (7 Day consolidated: 7.011m)
Time Heist: 7.378m (7 Day consolidated: 6.993m)
The Caretaker: 7.175m (7 Day consolidation: 6.820m)
Kill The Moon: 7.248m (7 Day consolidation: 6.914m)
Yog101
04-11-2014
Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m
+ Day 2: 6.802m
CD93
04-11-2014
Thanks Yog Slow Day 2 to make up for Day 1.

BBC1 w/c 20th for you Mullet - back in the Top 5 as predicted, with only one Apprentice.

Quote:
“1. Strictly Come Dancing (Sat): 10.65m
2. Strictly Come Dancing: The Results (Sun): 10.08m
3. EastEnders: 7.97m
4. The Apprentice: 7.78m
5. Doctor Who: 6.92m
6. Countryfile: 6.77m
7. New Tricks: 5.74m ( )”

Mulett
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Thanks Yog Slow Day 2 to make up for Day 1.

BBC1 w/c 20th for you Mullet - back in the Top 5 as predicted, with only one Apprentice.”

Thank you CD93! I have to say, good figures AND good critical acclaim this year too.

I really feel the show has entered a positive and stable era where we have both consistent/strong viewing figures and good reviews/word-of-mouth too.

I do think it important, also, to split the average final figures for Season 7 into 7a and 7b. I cannot remember the exact figure, but I am sure 7b averaged just over 7m (maybe 7.2m). If so, the viewing figures have been pretty stable now for a good few years.
Dave-H
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Thank you CD93! I have to say, good figures AND good critical acclaim this year too.”

Ian Hyland in the Daily Mirror was very complimentary about the series today, despite having hardly mentioned it during the run so far.
Has the Sunday Mirror's Kevin O'Sullivan become a convert though?!
CD93
04-11-2014
Ian Hyland indeed called Doctor Who bona fide grown up telly, yesterday.

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“You’d say the odds are heavily stacked in her favour, especially after she pointed out this *undeniable truth: “The dead outnumber the living.”

For some reason that quote just brings me back to The X Factor.”

Bwahaha...

Kevin O'Sullivan just avoids mentioning it unless called upon. Loved his End of Time review, though.

Quote:
“Part two of Tennant’s tear-jerking ta-ta to the *Tardis… and can anyone tell me what the hell was *supposed to be going on?

The Doc was droning on about hordes of travesties and “a nightmare child who could have been a king with an army of meanwhiles and never weres”. The Master carried on causing chaos for no *apparent reason.

And, keeping us in the loop, actooor Timothy *Dalton boomed: “The *rupture will continue until it rips the time vortex apart… we will ascend to become creatures of *consciousness.” Yes dear, of course you will.

In other words, business as usual in nerd-land.”

emby2
04-11-2014
Ha! I've always wondered how you know it's even possible to become a creature of consciousness. Do you watch someone else do it and think "I might try that myself one day"?

Anyway, I think we'll hit 7m tomorrow.
Bad Ambassador
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Ian Hyland indeed called Doctor Who bona fide grown up telly, yesterday.”

Is he watching the same thing as everyone else?
emby2
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Bad Ambassador:
“Is he watching the same thing as everyone else?”

Surely you can't deny that 'Dark Water' is a very grown-up episode? Many people (not me) have questioned it's suitability for kids.
Bad Ambassador
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by emby2:
“Surely you can't deny that 'Dark Water' is a very grown-up episode? Many people (not me) have questioned it's suitability for kids.”

For me, "not being suitable for kids" doesn't automatically mean "mature drama". This series has no emotional truth in it mainly because Clara and Danny, and their relationship, have all the depth of cardboard.
CD93
04-11-2014
I want to take a post to highlight that whoever Mumbling_Chris is in the DS comments section every week is a bore. Ratings WUMs are the worst WUMs.
Yog101
05-11-2014
Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m
+ Day 2: 6.802m
+ Day 3: 6.932m
cylon6
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by Yog101:
“Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m
+ Day 2: 6.802m
+ Day 3: 6.932m”

Do you think it'll make 7m?
CD93
05-11-2014
There would have to be a huge collapse for it not to, going off previous weeks - even with the Day 1 boost.
SJB 2007
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“I want to take a post to highlight that whoever Mumbling_Chris is in the DS comments section every week is a bore. Ratings WUMs are the worst WUMs.”

Agreed... The more he complains the more he thinks we care... I don't think the words constructive criticism is part of his vocabulary. :/

But he's not as bad as the Doctor Who Nazi that is Junior_Creeper over at YouTube, who 'Has an opinion, and is right all the time [He didn't know what the Sash of Rassilon was called... Amateur '

Scroll down the comments to see him in action, and be privileged that we have an expert at work... Move over Ian Levine a new super fan is in the house!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFZaqsaJ4eE
SJB 2007
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by Yog101:
“Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m
+ Day 2: 6.802m
+ Day 3: 6.932m”

I was thinking 7.2m, but i think it might creep to 7.4m'ish now.....
bokonon
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Ian Hyland indeed called Doctor Who bona fide grown up telly, yesterday.”

I have to say that any show aspiring to be 'proper grown-up telly' has an identity crisis.

Jacob Bronowski's Ascent of Man did not aspire to be proper grown-up telly because it was proper grown-up telly.

But given the choice I would probably rather watch Tom Baker as the Doctor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRDPb3P0Qw0
CD93
05-11-2014
More uplifting ratings news? Okay!

Quote:
“Just days shy of the Season 8 finale of DOCTOR WHO, Space confirms its #1 series of all time has hit epic proportions this season. Now averaging 773,000 viewers for Peter Capaldi’s debut season as the Twelfth Time Lord, Season 8 of DOCTOR WHO is the most-watched season of the program to date, up nearly 25% compared to Season 7 and ranking as the #1 TV series on Canadian specialty television. In fact, DOCTOR WHO is the most-watched television program on Saturday nights in Canada during its 9 p.m. ET timeslot among total viewers and all key demos.”

Yog101
06-11-2014
Live + VOSDAL: 5.266m
+ Day 1: 6.600m
+ Day 2: 6.802m
+ Day 3: 6.932m
+ Day 4: 7.029m
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