Courtesy of DMN.

A final rating of 7.34m for Dark Water.

Thanks Cylon

Live + VOSDAL: 5.445m
+ Day 1: 6.879m


28 Day consolidation:
Deep Breath: 9.529m (7 day consolidated: 9.169m)
Into the Dalek: 7.672m (7 day consolidated: 7.286m)
Robot of Sherwood: 7.707 (7 Day consolidated: 7.277m)
Listen: 7.426m (7 Day consolidated: 7.011m)
Time Heist: 7.378m (7 Day consolidated: 6.993m)
The Caretaker: 7.175m (7 Day consolidation: 6.820m)
Kill The Moon: 7.248m (7 Day consolidation: 6.914m)
Mummy on the Orient Express: 7.472m (7 Day consolidation: 7.111m)

Thanks Yog - for the whole of Series 8. Good to see that things are all in order and that the 28-day consolidation is indeed worth noting. No cause for concern off the back of a solid series.

With that in mind, I'm bowing out until Christmas - when we can do it all again with a sprinkling of festive cheer

A bit of parting trivia which at least Mullet might appreciate:


Yes, timeshifting has increased x3 since Moffat took over, and that number is only going up as live viewing continues to drop every year, so everybody at least try to act surprised if the overnight average continues to drop across the board. It's not like we weren't warned.



Enjoy the rest of the timeshift, see you back here next month!

Thank you CD93. Its been a great season and superb to see good, solid viewing figures throughout - overnights and finals. I'm still not completely sold on the later timeslot but good to see the BBC offering a genuine alternative to that ghastly X-Factor show!

Yes, indeed.

I left the thread and then immediately got very angry at what Broadcast is headlining.


Oh good lord - they couldn't even stay consistent on what they were reporting on. This is why you can't hang around for too long

Seconded. A job consistently well done.

The story so far...

SERIES 8

1. Deep Breath. Overnight rating: 6.8m (32.5%) Final rating: 9.17m (37.9%) AI: 82 [TS 2.37m]

2. Into The Dalek. Overnight rating: 5.2 million (24.7%) Final rating: 7.29m AI: 84 [TS 2.09m]

3. Robot of Sherwood. Overnight rating: 5.2 million (25.4%) Final rating: 7.28m. AI: 82 [TS 2.08m]

4. Listen. Overnight rating: 4.81 million (23.5%) Final rating: 7.01m AI: 82 [TS 2.20m]

5. Time Heist. Overnight rating: 4.93 million (23.8%) Final rating: 6.99m AI: 84 [TS 2.06]

6. The Caretaker. Overnight rating: 4.89 million. Final Rating: 6.82m : AI: 83 [TS 1.93m]

7. Kill The Moon. Overnight rating: 4.81 million. Final Rating: 6.91m. AI 82 [TS 2.10m]

8. Mummy On The Orient Express. Overnight rating: 5.08m. Final Rating: 7.11m (26.6%) . AI 85 [TS 2.03m]

9. Flatline. Overnight rating: 4.60m (20.1%) Final rating: 6.71m (25.5%) AI: 85 [TS 2.11m]

10. In the Forest of the Night. Overnight rating: 5.03m (21.6%) Final rating: 6.92m (26.3%) AI: 83 [TS 1.89m]

11. Dark Water. Overnight rating: 5.27m. Final rating: 7.34m AI: 85 [TS 2.07]

12. Death In Heaven. Overnight rating: 5.45m. Final rating TBA AI: TBA

Series 8 average [After 11 episodes ] : 7.23m [Time Shift Average: 2.08m]

Series 8 Overnight Average : 5.17m [FINAL AVERAGE]



[Thanks to Gallifrey Base for the series ratings information ]


Question is.... Do we add the Christmas rating towards the series average now as it's episode 13?

And the BBC willl respond along the lines of;

"Doctor Who's ratings have remained largely consistent for 9 years now, with the consolidated figures remaining over 7 million. It also remains one of our most popular programmes on our catch up iplayer service...so get your facts right or naff off."

(perhaps not the last bit. )

Broadcast, the TV industry trade magazine, surely they of all people should know better than to quote overnight figures?

No AI for Death in Heaven yet?

Almost forgot about this - ripped from the Ratings Thread, Mulett. (there's no getting out )


EDIT: EastEnders was taken out, I've put it back in.

Death In Heaven AI - 83

I would pass comment but.. who knows what to think of the AI these days? Nothing specific it seems, just a general sense of strong appreciation.

Awkward...LOL!

Death In Heaven AI - 83
In The Forest of the Night - 83
Listen - 82

Yeah. Awkward. But not for anybody involved in production. Oh well, a difference of 0.1. I'll continue to look forward to my boxset with childish glee

A nice response to that Broadcast report

http://www.mygeekheart.com/death-in-...-million-.html

I think I tuned out of the AIs the moment they gave Listen an 82.

Good final rating for Dark Water. Great time shift for DiH. Poor AI for DiH.

Lowest AI for any new series finale. Most are around the 88-89 mark with Wedding being down at 86 (which I think deserved its lower mark). Tallies in with the general feeling that DiH didn't live up to what DW set up - people felt like it was a let down and therefore scored it lower. I think this is now the second lowest rated series after series 1 too. That AI definitely shows they need to make some adjustments to what they're doing next year because some of the changes haven't really worked.

83 is still in the margin of "Very Good" however, just below excellent. It's hardly the cataclysmic downfall you're making it out to be.

Being realistic, it's well below what a DW finale should and normally gets. It's basically just below average for BBC drama - is DW meant to be an 'average' show or is it meant to be one of their jewels?

It IS poor for what they normally get and they'd be daft to ignore that.

What general feeling? Where? Which people felt like it was "a let down" when they still scored it "Very good"? How can numbers like 83 be considered a let down?! Why should the show make adjustments based solely on the AI when ratings are still strongly in line with previous years? It's not like people actually turned off during the run.

They're considered a let down if you understand AI and know what DWs figures are. You can't celebrate the high figures but ignore the bad. General (not fandom) reaction to it was that it was fine but didn't live up to the promise of the previous episode. This AI reflects that well.

It's the lowest ever rated finale by some margin (the AVERAGE for the finales is 88.6 which shows how highly rated they normally are). RTDs era overall rose from 82.8 average to 87.9 average - people liked series 4 a lot more than series 1. Moffat's era - s5-7 were incredibly consistent with them all about 86 (a variance of 0.2 between the three series). Series 8 has dropped to 83.3. That's a drop whatever way you look at it. Something about this series means it's been enjoyed less by the general viewers no point in denying it. As I said, the show has gone from being above average for the BBC to being average. That deserves some thought on behalf of the crew.

I don't really understand the AI's this year. They're noticeably down on previous years, yet the general consensus amongst people I've spoken to (in my year at Uni) is that this year is a vast improvement on previous years.

And don't get me started on the score of 82 for Listen...

I have to assume that the BARB sample is representative of the entire population (that's its purpose) so I guess the people I've been associating with both on here and in every day life mustn't be representative of the population...

Oh well, I loved Series 8. Not quite as good as Series 5, but still great television. Doctor Who has returned to its former glory as far as I'm concerned. I'm looking forward to getting the Blu-ray this Christmas.

The Appreciation Index draws a line between what is considered very good and what is excellent. With the latter falling on 85, you're relying on more 9/10 & 10/10 than 8/10. It's the difference between 8.3/10, 8.4/10 and 8.5/10. The same has been applied to viewing figures. 6.98m is good - but it's sure as hell not 7m!

I do think some people let these numbers color their vision somewhat. The idea that Series 8 has 'bad' scores which we're ignoring however is amusing. It's not what we wanted or expected, but it's what we got and it could sure be worse.

Incidentally, there is also a timeshift AI score. But we don't get to see that...

( see, this is why you shouldn't hang about )

I honestly just think it's less entertaining and adventurous than the previous few years and for the casual audience (which makes up the bulk) it isn't quite as enjoyable.


You're missing the context. Most BBC drama gets mid 80s no problem. For DW to fall below this isn't great, no. There is a very significant difference between the AI of this finale and all the other ones. The people in charge would be idiots not to wonder why after 3 incredibly consistent series it has suddenly fallen back to series 1 levels. It's not 'omg worse drama ever scrap it now!' but only a fool wouldn't say it's something they need to look into.

IMO the episode wasn't Excellent and probably shouldn't have been rated as such. The AI panel rated it higher than I did

( but then, I only consider Series 1 to have a finale worthy of an excellent score )

Yes, I would go as far to say as DW has been colorfully scored over the years. Absolute garbage has been found to be extremely enjoyable and modern day classics have been modest. In my mind, of course. TPTB would have to find a good place to start. I hear The Rani would get us in the 90s, though!