Hopefully we'll see it going upwards again soon!

Well, first and foremost because there is a very clear alternative explanation for the boost, which also applies to Tooth and Claw just a couple of weeks earlier, and produced a near identical boost. Without Cybermen. And, despite being received well by its audience, the second part fell back to a rating more consistent with the main trend of the series.

I'm just applying Occam's Razor.

BBC America overnight ratings:

0.936m (0.4) compared with 1.126m (0.4) for Episode 4 last year which was shown a month earlier.

Interestingly, the the viewing figure is almost identical (0.974m) to Episode 8 which was shown on the same weekend last year.

Those American ratings are minuscule compared to UK and alkso compared to usual level of ratings across the range in USA.

Thats because BBC America is a premium cable channel that not many people have and so of course ratings on that channel aren't going to be as high as network TV ratings or even some of the more mainstream cable channels like HBO. I'm pretty sure Who is one of BBC America's biggest hits in terms of ratings.

Before the Flood

Live: 3.392m
Live +VOSDAL: 4.384m
+ Day 1: 5.345m
+ Day 2: 5.639m
+ Day 3: 5.783m

Thanks Yog.

Might be a timeshift just shy of 2m.

Do you have the day 1 to 5 figures for Under The Lake?

Those 2.3m+ viewers who didn't watch live-live aren't real fans and should be ousted immediately.

Welcome back, Yog - thanks!

Is that in line with the increases for other episodes by day 3? It looks bigger.

The day 1 timeshift is under 1 million. I think that's the first time that's happened this series.

Under the Lake

Live: 2.987m
Live + VOSDAL: 3.738m
+ Day 1: 4.751m
+ Day 2: 5.023m
+ Day 3: 5.194m

So actually a bit less - maybe its just that the overall figure is higher it looked like a bigger jump.

Day 1 and 2 shifts are below last year's average. Day 3 is slightly above. Looks like a final of 6.1m going on these figures. That would put the series average to 6m exactly so far.

Around 40% of all US households or two-thirds of those with cable. Some companies such as Time-Warner include BBC America as part of the basic cable package, others don't.

Yes I do because their figures used to be posted online and they got lower and lower over time, then the BBC began stopping showing them and this year no figures were posted for the remaining repeats (one of which has since disappeared itself from this Friday's TV guide) despite me repeatedly asking and plenty of people chipping in with Saturday live and VOTSD and +3day figures, etc.

This is the ratings thread, where is this CD93 post you mention and why isn't it in this thread, where I have repeatedly asked for repeat ratings. I don't remember discussing them elsewhere.

Still, like everyone else, feel free to ignore this point, falling magazine circulations and spin-off television shows.

Edit: Never mind, I found the CD93 reply to my post about Capaldi and potential companions in another thread. Shame they didn't reply to me in this thread a week ago when I was explicitly asking about repeat ratings.

Yes. The repeat figures got lower as more and more people had access to PVRs and iPlayer. No mystery, no secret, and nothing unusual. In fact they seem to have become interchangeable, different ways of catching up, so a lower repeat figure tends to be accompanied by a higher iPlayer figure.

Last series the BBC Three final figures ranged between 0.22m and 0..46m. Similar figures this year would not make the BBC Three top ten (which tends to be dominated by Family Guy and Eastenders).

As an illustration of my first point, from Series 8:

0.44m BBC 3 + 0.51m iPlayer = 0.95m - Robot of Sherwood (highest BBC 3, barring premiere)

0.22m BBC 3 + 0.69m iPlayer = 0.91m - In the Forest of the Night (lowest BBC 3)


The BBC doesn't have any responsibility for the ratings figures, that's BARB's department.

What the BBC do publish are the Live+7 figures, which will account for BBC Three viewers. The first one of those reports will cover TMA and TWF only, and they tend to take a while to appear.

I cannot speak for CD93 but you also explicitly referenced the ratings, and in particular this ratings thread, in the other thread, which I dare say is why CD93 replied to you in that thread. It all seems perfectly logical to me...

If you're that interested in repeat ratings why not take the time to find out for yourself rather than wasting your time getting cross with the nice people here? Why should anyone provide you with such information when you ask so rudely?

Before the Flood

Live: 3.392m
Live +VOSDAL: 4.384m
+ Day 1: 5.345m
+ Day 2: 5.639m
+ Day 3: 5.783m
+ Day 4: 5.833m

50,000 is a low timeshift for day 4.

Time shifts are averaging a little lower so far this year (1.94 vs 1.99). This ep is heading for just over 6m final.

Before the Flood

Live: 3.392m
Live +VOSDAL: 4.384m
+ Day 1: 5.345m
+ Day 2: 5.639m
+ Day 3: 5.783m
+ Day 4: 5.833m
+ Day 5: 5.937m

Well that's not good if the time shifts are down... with the live figures down you would hope the time shifting goes up.

The iPlayer figures are going to be very telling.

Not necessarily.The major loss of live viewers will be from casual viewers, and casual viewers don't timeshift.

The rump of committed viewers who are also live viewers, are most likely to still watch on the night anyway, and so aren't likely to add to the post-overnight timeshift.