Yeah, millions, eh? The X-Factor also went up from 5.6M to 6.4M this week, though it didn't inherit an audience from a previous show peaking at 10.1M.

Doctor Who was still left with an audience share under 20%, whilst Pointless beat it again with 4.57M viewers. Even the afternoon news beat it.

Pointless is on at the same time as DW isn't it? Oh no, it isn't - it was facing stiff opposition from ITV News and Weather. Think we'll be okay 'beating' it, myself.... and the news.

Exactly. The news, Pointless and Doctor Who may get around 4-5 million viewers on the night but 1.5-2 million more people catch up on DW across the week.

That's right, skip right past the under 20% market share bit, the X-Factor gaining more viewers in the same slot and the 10.1M lead-in from Strictly.

Tawdry "plots" and awful recurring "characters" like Osgood are just going to result in the casual/recurring audience to switch off in droves.

Wouldn't be surprised at an overnight of less than 4.m Next week.

I swear some people on this forum just want the show to fail.

Oh this is beyond any doubt nowadays. Its an 'If I cant have Doctor Who exactly how I want it then no-one shall have it' attitude that is stunningly unpleasant.

It wasn't me who dredged-up a week old post, with no motive to boast about. I hadn't even posted about last night's episode.

Don't they? Sad isn't it, to be so consistently negative...

Not just this forum, but the internet in general. Nobody hates Doctor Who like its own fanbase. :P

But the "I like Doctor Who as it is, think Moffat/Capaldi has it just right, and will ignore the fact that fewer people are watching it" attitude is supremely irritating.

One does have to wonder what game somebody is playing when their predictions are smashed, but they act as though it's even worse than they originally thought.

Still. there's a list for such nonsense.

But I don't think anyone is ignoring the fall in ratings, everyone's acknowledged it but no one actually knows the reason why and everything else beyond that fact is just speculation.

Some would say it's because not so many people are enjoying the show anymore, others would say it's because it clashed with whatever else was on that night, or on the other side, some would say it's because it's on too late in the evening, others would say that NuWho is ten years old now and fatigue is beginning to set in as it does with any show that is lucky enough to reach ten years. Or it could be a combination of any one of those factors or any number of other factors.

Any one of those speculative points are equally as valid as 'the show is rubbish at the moment' but when people mention them to anyone who isn't enjoying the show they just get dismissed and told they are making excuses because it's doesn't fit with their view which seems to be "I'm not enjoying the show, therefore no one else can be either."

I haven't been on these forums for a long time but they seem even more hostile now than I remember, and I used to get persistently mocked on here for enjoying Moffat's vision of the show...

Well of course. You know me Granny. I have been quite critical of this season and probably more so than ever before. But I'm not even referring to this forum. Of course on the episode threads you get a few but even the most disappointed on here still must find something they enjoy even if they wont admit it.

I mean those who say they wish it would be cancelled. As in off the air. And I have seen it said. Now consider that for a second. If you hate it that much you wish it were cancelled then the best thing to do would be to stop watching it. Then as far as that person is concerned it IS cancelled. Its over. They still have the hundreds of episodes already made to enjoy. But to wish it would stop just because it doesnt fit your own personal taste? Just seems a bit mean. There are still millions of people who enjoy the show. After last nights episode my Twitter and Facebook was full of people who loved that episode. I had friends texting me saying 'That was amazing!'. So if you dont enjoy it then thats a massive shame. But why wish for its cancellation and by doing so hope to rob those of us who do still love it of that enjoyment? Just seems petty and mean spirited to me.

..... Can this get its own thread possibly? It is quite inconvenient having to sift through piles of bollocks to find out the ratings

I think something definitely happened that reduced interest in the show. The opening episode usually always gets a big boost (which help the season average) but not so this year. I think a new companion would have really helped. In fact, I think a new companion should have been essential. I really don't understand why Clara's been kept on. And with Capaldi's season 8 Doctor proving very Marmite with the audience, I can't say I'm surprised fewer people are watching this year.

Upon airing in its 7.50pm timeslot, the "Deep Breath" simulcast entertained an average audience of 6.79 million in the United Kingdom. The episode reached a peak of 6.96 million viewers, watched by nearly a third of all viewers on the evening of broadcast with a 32.5% audience share. The final ratings for the week, (which does not include BBC iPlayer viewers but does include viewers who watched the programme within a week of its transmission), showed 9.17 million viewers saw the episode, making it the second highest rated programme for the week on British television.

Upon airing in its 7.40pm timeslot, the overnight viewing figures for “The Magician's Apprentice” indicated the episode was watched by 4.58 million viewers on BBC1, the lowest overnight figure for a series opener since the show returned in 2005. It gained a 21.2% share of its timeslot and came second for the night, behind The X Factor.The episode was watched by 6.54 million viewers, the lowest consolidated rating for the programme since the Matt Smith episode "The Crimson Horror". There were 1.3 million "download requests" through the BBC's iplayer service.

The ratings figure was clearly stated on the previous page...a mere 28 posts ago. Not that difficult to find surely? This thread has never been purely a place to list the ratings and AI figures and there was nothing off topic about what was said. Perhaps you could start your own thread to list purely the data to make it 'easy' to find.

Is it fair to compare an episode which was the first full episode of a Doctor with an episode where we know the Doctor as well as the companion though? Of course a first full episode of a Doctor would gather more episode, no?

How would The Eleventh Hour and The Impossible Astronaut compare if you were to make this same comparison? Since it's the only other similar example with the same Doctor/Companion combo. (well not counting series 2 which was the same Doctor/Companion as the Christmas special).

I take your point. However, it is a significant drop - far greater than any we have seen for a season premiere and it really can't be explained away simply by Deep Breath being Capaldi's first episode.

Maybe it's because the Dr. has become an out & out politician.
Kids like to see goodies Vs baddies & the goodies to defeat the baddies, not get them round a table and discuss their differences.
The Dr. has lost his edge.

Just for the sake of comparison, The Impossible Astronaut was watched by 1.23 million les viewers in the overall ratings than The Eleventh Hour, although it seems that the %share for The Impossible Astronaut was actually higher than for The Eleventh Hour.

Of course, I don't think that even the most enthusiastic members on here can deny that at least the overnight ratings are the lowest they have been in the Moffat era (whatever the reasons behind that are) and that the AIs are also lowest in his run so far as well.

I mean the highest the episodes score this season is 84, which was on the lowest end during the Matt Smith era. I seem to recall that someone mentioned that the way they are recorded changed sometimes in either 2011 or 2012. But even then if you would consider series 7A as a separate series it would likely be amongst the highest AI average in all of NuWho and even in series 7B The Name of the Doctor was able to reach an AI of 88 - then again on the internet plenty of people were complaining about Moffat already by the point of series 7A although the overall ratings never fell below 7, 5 million and the AI was never below 85.

I know everyone's getting hot under the collar about falling ratings and percentage shares, but surely the most useful comparable figure is where Doctor Who stands in relation to other shows. All ratings are down, all programmes are receiving less viewers than before.

Regardless of actual figures and %ages, surely any show that is still the Second Most Watched Show of the night should be judged a success?

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2015/11...-ai84.html?m=1

The Zygon Inversion - AI:84

Doctor Who: The Zygon Inversion had an Audience Appreciation or AI score of 84.

The Appreciation Index or AI is a measure of how much the audience enjoyed the programme. The score, out of a hundred, is compiled by a specially selected panel of around 5,000 people who go online and rate and comment on programmes.

The highest score for the weekend was for the The Royal British Legion Festival Of Remembrance which scored 90

With Sunday's overnight viewing figures now available, Doctor Who finished as the 47th most watched programme of the week. Consolidated figures will be published next week.

5.76m for The Zygon Invasion.