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Dr Who Ratings Thread (Merged)
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Katy Butterfly
23-05-2010
Stupid hot weather. I watched last night's episode with my boyfriend as it went out.

What worries me is that people will blame Matt and Karen, and not take things like the timeslot and the weather into consideration.
Muttley76
23-05-2010
Originally Posted by Katy Butterfly:
“What worries me is that people will blame Matt and Karen, and not take things like the timeslot and the weather into consideration.”

I don't think you need to be worried tbh. It's not an issue outside of various forums etc. We actually do worry more than we need to about things at times, I mean the episode won it's slot by miles and maintained it's usual healthy share. The time shift will come in a week monday and people will relax again.

This series as a whole is rating well. It'll take a bit more than one low overnight rating to raise eyebrows tbh.
Dr Thete
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by DS9:
“IIRC only 25% of main telly's are connected to a PVR be it Sky+, Freeview+ or whatever. So a fair few viewers must be still be using their VCR's.”

As of May this year - 44% of TV households had digital recording equipment.
sepmix
24-05-2010
Quote:
“Overnight viewing figures for Matt Smiths Eighth story, The Hungry Earth show that the story achieved a Rating of 4.5m viewers (inc Hd ) with a 32.2% audience share.

4.2m Watched on BBC1 whilst a further 0.3m watched on the HD channel.

Ratings for the day were significantly lower the normal , probably due to the weather

Full figures including those who recorded it and watched it within 7 days will be available form BARB in a couple of weeks time.

Source: Doctor Who News page”

http://news.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/t...night-ratings/

Eighth story? lol. Unless they're counting End of Time that makes no sense. But anyway, looks like the warm weather hit Doctor Who hard.
Ja88ed
24-05-2010
To be expected really. I am a big fan of Doctor Who that doesn't particularly like the sun but even I was out and about this weekend!

Too glorious to stay indoors. I had to catch up using Virgin Media's Catchup Service
sepmix
24-05-2010
It'll be interesting to see if it's a similar day and the viewership rises due to a 7pm episode.
chuffnobbler
24-05-2010
If memory serves, C.Eccleston's epochal final episode had a relatively low audience, cos the sun was out. (I am sure someone will now produce some figures that prove me wrong...)

4.5m is a v low audience, though the overnight figs are always a lot less than the actual figs. This could be the lowest audience for DW since 1989! No worries though: as soon as the weather breaks, things will be back to normal. Usual good percentage of total audience though.
Josh Pinder
24-05-2010
i was out in the sun and saw it on Iplayer later on! so surely they'd count that towards the end of the week for a total! it's not surprising really that that amount only saw it...also rediculous time to put it on!!! i'd prefer it if it was later but with Eurovision next week it seems unlikely it will happen then too still may for the last four episodes! but i just find it too early in the evening for it. i managed the 6 o'clock Vampires episode though as the weather wasnt good at all then but this week it was a lot of factors.
loved the episode though
tingramretro
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“i was out in the sun and saw it on Iplayer later on! so surely they'd count that towards the end of the week for a total! it's not surprising really that that amount only saw it...also rediculous time to put it on!!! i'd prefer it if it was later but with Eurovision next week it seems unlikely it will happen then too still may for the last four episodes! but i just find it too early in the evening for it. i managed the 6 o'clock Vampires episode though as the weather wasnt good at all then but this week it was a lot of factors.
loved the episode though ”

I don't think iplayer views are counted in the ratings. If you watched it on iplayer, you probably didn't watch it, officially.
chuffnobbler
24-05-2010
I thought Iplayer was counted in the "people who watch it after broadcast" figures.
johnnysaucepn
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“I thought Iplayer was counted in the "people who watch it after broadcast" figures.”

Yeah, they are - so although the overnights are low, we would expect to see a lot of people pick it up later. I'm guessing it'll still be down on the average though.
tingramretro
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“I thought Iplayer was counted in the "people who watch it after broadcast" figures.”

I'm sure I read it wasn't. Could be wrong, though. Somebody send for Muttley...
drwho-online
24-05-2010
The important thing to note here, which appears to have been left out of the news item is that the fact it achieved 33.2% Audience Share is actually quite respectable.

On this basis, The Hungry Earth actually faired better than The Vampires of Venice.

Full rundown of ratings so far:
http://www.drwho-online.co.uk/news/D...rnight-ratings
Webslark
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“I'm sure I read it wasn't. Could be wrong, though. Somebody send for Muttley...”

Sorry, not Muttley and I am sure she will have the full info, but it looks like BARB only count recoded programmes in their Timeshift, not iPlayer etc.


Timeshift Audience
The playback audience to a video or PVR/DVDR recording of a minute, commercial, daypart or programme. The recording must be played back within 7 days of the original transmission to be counted by BARB.

What is the difference between live and consolidated BARB data?
‘Live’ data reports viewing that takes place at the time of the original broadcast.

'Consolidated' data incorporates VCR, DVDR and PVR playback within 7 days of the original broadcast. This timeshift viewing is added to the live data to produce consolidated viewing data made available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the 'BARB Gold Standard' used by the industry to report and trade on.
tingramretro
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by Webslark:
“Sorry, not Muttley and I am sure she will have the full info, but it looks like BARB only count recoded programmes in their Timeshift, not iPlayer etc.


Timeshift Audience
The playback audience to a video or PVR/DVDR recording of a minute, commercial, daypart or programme. The recording must be played back within 7 days of the original transmission to be counted by BARB.

What is the difference between live and consolidated BARB data?
‘Live’ data reports viewing that takes place at the time of the original broadcast.

'Consolidated' data incorporates VCR, DVDR and PVR playback within 7 days of the original broadcast. This timeshift viewing is added to the live data to produce consolidated viewing data made available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the 'BARB Gold Standard' used by the industry to report and trade on.”

Thought so. So, the apparent drop in ratings is at least in part down to the industry not keeping up with current viewing methods and newer technology, then?
Helbore
24-05-2010
Viewing figures were down across the board on Saturday. It wasn't just Doctor Who.

It's just what happens when we get nice weather on the weekend!
Webslark
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Thought so. So, the apparent drop in ratings is at least in part down to the industry not keeping up with current viewing methods and newer technology, then?”

It would seem so - BARB's remit is specifically about people watching television. Maybe it needs to be updated to take account of the new methods.
Josh Pinder
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by Helbore:
“Viewing figures were down across the board on Saturday. It wasn't just Doctor Who.

It's just what happens when we get nice weather on the weekend!”

too true actually!! 4 million is still a significant ammount! and also i hope the weather continues!! it's brilliant.
caught up with Radio One's Big Weekend too which was fabulous, wouldnt like to be crammed up in a tent though :/ lol! loved the beachin' too much down here in glorious Cornwall, gotta make the most of it, should have a seaside episode of Doctor Who with Sea Devils coming out to attack!! should be fabulous for a summer too get Matt in some shorties, and get Amy finally off to Rio or something, could be awesome.

Iplayer is a fabulous invention!!! and i hope the ratings are included in the views on there in the end of weeks ratings!! i am sure many have or have Sky/Freeview +'d the show or recorded it on VCR or DVD, there are so many options now!
sepmix
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“also rediculous time to put it on!!! i'd prefer it if it was later but with Eurovision next week it seems unlikely it will happen then too”


Despite Eurovision it's actually on at 7pm next week, 50 minute episode too.
smiddlehurst
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by Webslark:
“Sorry, not Muttley and I am sure she will have the full info, but it looks like BARB only count recoded programmes in their Timeshift, not iPlayer etc.


Timeshift Audience
The playback audience to a video or PVR/DVDR recording of a minute, commercial, daypart or programme. The recording must be played back within 7 days of the original transmission to be counted by BARB.

What is the difference between live and consolidated BARB data?
‘Live’ data reports viewing that takes place at the time of the original broadcast.

'Consolidated' data incorporates VCR, DVDR and PVR playback within 7 days of the original broadcast. This timeshift viewing is added to the live data to produce consolidated viewing data made available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the 'BARB Gold Standard' used by the industry to report and trade on.”

One addition to this, I believe that iPlayer figures are counted when they're part of a catch-up service, so Virgin Media's on-demand views ARE counted towards the final figure.

In general, to all those in a flap, always always always look at the audience share figure. That's FAR more important than the total viewers and gives you a more accurate view of what's happening. 33% is pretty much bang on with the rest of the series to date, viewing figures in general got monstered on Saturday thanks to the weather. Who has regularly been timeshifting at least 1.5 million viewers this series, it'll be fine when the final figures come in next week.

In other words, don't panic, keep calm, nothing to see here.
tingramretro
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by smiddlehurst:
“ don't panic”

We're doomed!
bazellis
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by sepmix:
“http://news.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/t...night-ratings/

Eighth story? lol. Unless they're counting End of Time that makes no sense. But anyway, looks like the warm weather hit Doctor Who hard.”

It was his eighth story though??
tingramretro
24-05-2010
Originally Posted by bazellis:
“It was his eighth story though??”

No, it was his eighth episode. The Angels two parter was a single story, making this his seventh story.
oathy
24-05-2010
ITV were totally destroyed on Saturday.
Truly shocking Figures.

for me personally the later DW is on the better I would love it back around the 7pm slot it just feels the right time for the show.

If the stories about Lloyd webber are true he's off to ITV maybe BBC will finally realise DW deserves the 7pm slot on a more solid basis.
Muttley76
24-05-2010
AI of 86 for The Hungry Earth.
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