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It's funny, I am always very upbeat but I'm a bit worried, probably for no reason!
![]() But yeah, if we can hold the same share as last week, I'd imagine a lot more people were at home, especially with a bog night of tv ahead. ![]()
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When we get the final figures for THE, all the "panic" over the overnights will fall in the Crack
![]() ![]() I'm very interested to see the kind of ratings we get for the next episode - i assume given the cast and writer there will be a far amount of promotion in the run up to the episode and that the media will talk about it a lot this week, plus the story of Van Gogh is likely to appeal to casual viewers rather like the Chrisite one did I think. |
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5.7 million last night. Improved rating, but reduced share - (27.2% which may be the lowest nu who share I think)
Still I guess it's a decent recovery from last week, given that a lot of people may not have seen the last episode. I hope that lays to rest the idea that millions more will tune in at 7pm..
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Glad the figure increased but shame about the share and the later timeslot not "magically" healing the ratings...
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Glad the figure increased but shame about the share and the later timeslot not "magically" healing the ratings...
But the ratings for this week will be fine once we get the final ratings - 5.7 + 1.5 = 7.2 million. I'd say at least 7 million, which is actually pretty much in line with the final figures most epispdes are getting at this stage in the series. As I said, I feel we will be back over 6 million next week. This weeks episode had a lot of ground to make up, probably was asking a bit too much of it to be straight back to normal given some people may not have seen part 1. |
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5.7 million last night. Improved rating, but reduced share - (27.2% which may be the lowest nu who share I think)
Still I guess it's a decent recovery from last week, given that a lot of people may not have seen the last episode. I hope that lays to rest the idea that millions more will tune in at 7pm.. ![]() stunned it didnt do better at the 7pm slot |
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stunned it didnt do better at the 7pm slot
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27.2? ouch
is that the lowest audience percentage since it cam back?What can be done to rectify this? perhaps give it a coupls of weeks for people to get used to it being back in the 7pm slot? Here's hoping it picks up again next week. |
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But as I have been saying for an awful long time, this idea that 7pm is the holy grail time slot for DW was always a myth.
Over all, I don't think a 7pm slot makes a difference though. |
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What can be done to rectify this? perhaps give it a coupls of weeks for people to get used to it being back in the 7pm slot? Here's hoping it picks up again next week.
I don't really think there is anything that major that needs to be done to "rectify" things. It pulled back 1.2 million viewers from the prior week. Thats pretty good going. I think next week will see another increase in viewers since it will be a fresh story. What people have to realise is that every series to date has seen a dip in viewers at some point for one reason or another. It's good we seem to be coming out the other side now. |
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What people have to realise is that every series to date has seen a dip in viewers at some point for one reason or another. It's good we seem to be coming out the other side now.
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The only reason I thought a later slot would have helped last week is because the weather was so hot. I thought more people would be out and about and a start of 6pm(ish) would make it harder for more families to get home in time for it..
)I think it's quite interesting psychologically to see how people react to figures. Had we gotten 300k more this week no one would have been fussed by the share I don't think, I just think people feel that unless the show hits 6 million on overnights it has failed in some way. I think we need to adjust our thinking a bit more and except that we really need to wait till we get final ratings in these days to judge the success or otherwise of an episode! |
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And over all, there hasn't been a slow trend downwards either - last week was a 'blip' and I am sure the complete figures for last week will be between 6m-7m. Over all, this series is doing very well.
I feel next weeks overnights will be the test really. If, as I think, it will see ratings back over 6 million, there really is no need to stress about anything. |
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(One last thing - one 'wit' at the meeting apparently mentioned that 'DW' was now in the Merlin realm as far as the reality of ratings go...though only for a week!)
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I've just been reading back through the thread - can someone explain what this means?? For some reason I can't decide whether it means Merlin is doing badly, so DW for one week was doing AS badly, or that Merlin's figures sometimes start low but usually shift a lot by the time the final numbers come in.
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I still feel that whether its on at 6.15 or 6.45 or 7pm, it needs to be consistant scheduling for the whole 13 episdoes, people develop habits around watching programmes and moving Who around the Saturday night schedules like the BBC has done this series does not help build a regular audience. I think the increase in those watching on iplayer and the likes reflect this issue.
Actually I think the way they have treated the scheduling of what is one of their flagship shows has been pretty lousy so for a new series that needed to re-establish itself with so many changes. |
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Merlin was a pretty solid show ratings wise for the BBC, especially given it had an earlier start time than DW quite often. I think the point was that for one week DW performances was kind of on par with a solid early evening drama rather than being far ahead of them (at least on overnights).
![]() That makes more sense that way. I quite like Merlin actually, and didn't think it had been doing too badly for its slot (it's getting another series anyway), but I know Doctor Who is the big Saturday teatime show so it's usually a good million ahead!Thanks for clarifying! |
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Actually I think the way they have treated the scheduling of what is one of their flagship shows has been pretty lousy so for a new series that needed to re-establish itself with so many changes. I'd also point to the fact that series 1 didn't actually manage to retain it's audience being in the same slot every week bar one, so it doesn't really strengthen your argument. |
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I don't really think there is anything that major that needs to be done to "rectify" things. It pulled back 1.2 million viewers from the prior week. Thats pretty good going.
The conclusion seems obvious to me, but not to you.
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You said earlier, the 7pm slot didn't make a difference, then you just said that it did 1.2m better than last week? The 1m ish figure is what was recognised as the difference the 45 minutes earlier start time makes.
The conclusion seems obvious to me, but not to you. ![]() Last weeks ratings were not the normal overnight ratings the show gets, they were down due to the extremely hot weather. Your basic point of comparison is highly flawed, you need to look at the average overnight ratings this year, not cherry pick the atypical result. |
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thing is though that people seem to forget that other than series 1 the show hasn't ever really had a stable slot, and indeed the nature of Saturday evening TV tends to mean that getting the same slot week on week is pretty uncommon, this is due to the fluctuating nature of the schedule during the day - e.g live sport - and the changing running times of some shows of an evening - eg Over The Rainbow. Even DW itself has had somewhat variable running times this series.
I'd also point to the fact that series 1 didn't actually manage to retain it's audience being in the same slot every week bar one, so it doesn't really strengthen your argument. Common sense would suggest that moving a show around the schedule a lot will mean some viewers will find it too much hassle to stick with it every week and some will miss a few episodes and give up! Mind you, doesn't matter to me as I live on the other side of the globe these days, and Prime managed to show Doctor Who is on at the same time every Sunday, if only the Beeb could treat it with the same respect ![]() Out of interest, which series of the new series has been moved around the scheuldes the most?? |
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Common sense would suggest that moving a show around the schedule a lot will mean some viewers will find it too much hassle to stick with it every week and some will miss a few episodes and give up!
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Out of interest, which series of the new series has been moved around the scheuldes the most?? series 2 earliest start time: 6.40 latest start time: 7.25 series 3: earlies start time: 6.45 latest start time: 7.15 series 4: earliest start time: 6.20 latest start time: 7.15 series 5: earliest start time: 6:00 latest start time: 7:00 I guess in terms of the range, you'd say this series has marginally the widest, however, thats slightly unfair because apart from the one 6pm and one 7pm episode, the others have all aired within 20 minutes of each other. |
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But the viewing figures the show has generally got over the last few seasons tends to disprove this though, whatever common sense might tell you...
![]() What do you think the increase in the iplayer etc viewers is due to this season? |
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Hmm lets see
series 2 earliest start time: 6.40 latest start time: 7.25 series 3: earlies start time: 6.45 latest start time: 7.15 series 4: earliest start time: 6.20 latest start time: 7.15 series 5: earliest start time: 6:00 latest start time: 7:00 I guess in terms of the range, you'd say this series has marginally the widest, however, thats slightly unfair because apart from the one 6pm and one 7pm episode, the others have all aired within 20 minutes of each other.
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is that the lowest audience percentage since it cam back?