My word what a time shift that was. How sad that most peole only want to talk about ratings when they think the show is about to be cancelled after one low overnight? Where have those people all gone now?

Sorry Yorkie.

I think Gallifrey Base is getting to me... You can throw AI's and ratings equal to RTD's era at them, and their still tell you thing have to change or the show will be cancelled.

Again sorry to bring my jadedness over here....

*************** S1* *S2* *S3* *S4* *S5*
episode 1 10.81: 8.62: 8.71 : 9.14:10.08
episode 2 7.97: 9.24: 7.23 : 9.04 : 8.42
episode 3 8.86: 8.31: 8.41 : 7.50: 7.82
episode 4 7.63: 7.90 : 6.69 : 7.06 : 8.59
episode 5 7.98: 9.22: 6.96 : 6.53 : 8.50
episode 6 8.63: 7.64:7.19 : 7.33 : 7.68
episode 7 8.01: 6.76: 7.41 : 8.41 : 7.55
episode 8 8.06: 6.32: 7.74: 6.27 : 6.49
episode 9 7.11: 6.08: 7.21 : 7.84
episode 10 6.86: 6.66: 6.62: 8.05
episode 11 7.68: 7.14: 7.84: 8.09
episode 12 6.81: 8.19: 7.31: 8.78
episode 13 6.91: 8.22: 8.62:10.57
Average--- 7.95: 7.71: 7.55: 8.05

Series 5 has the:

second highest ratings for a series opener.
third highest ratings for the second episode of a series.
fourth highest ratings for the third episode of a series
highest ratings for the fourth episode of a series
second highest rating for the fifth episode of a series
second highest rating for the sixth episode of a series
third highest rating for the seventh episode of a series
third highest rating for the eighth episode of a series, so apparently the show isn't getting cancelled now.

Notes:

1.series 5 figures include simultaneous HD viewing figures
2. series 5 episode 3 did not have a simultaneous HD showing. It did however get 0.38m viewers later in the evening. Total audience for that day was 8.2 million

I have to say I think it's a lot more than pretty good. I'd say it's phenomenal. It might still be a lower end final rating but it increased it's audience by something like 44% from the overnight ratings and added two million viewers in the process. A bit more than you were expecting? I'd say a good half a million more than one would expect given the time shifts in general this series.

I would say it;s actually one of the more remarkable results in the shows history actually - no other show could do what DW just did in terms of adding that sort of percentage to an overnight rating.

As BBC one are showing the F1 qualifying live from Canada between 5.15 and 7 .15 so I presume it will be on at 7.15 so clashing with football

Since it's only the qualifying I very much doubt that this will happen,they have had qualifying on the red button in the past. No reason to think they won't this time.

If you notice on the the press office site, while the F1 is listed, so is DW from 6.45 - 7.30pm

Obviously this site invariably change a lot, but at this time there is no indication how it will pan out, but your speaking as though the above is a fact is clearly highly premature.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pro...wk24/sat.shtml

The average episode rating now stands at 8.23m - so still ahead of series 1-4.

Doctor Who is now showing as being on at 6.15pm on 12th June on RT site:

http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsSe...ainContentWide

looks like F1 will either be on BBC2 (big gap in schedule) or red button. It should be finalised today anyway.

As i suggested, F1 moved to BBC2 in the confirmed schedule. I am a little surprised they went with an overlap with the pre match build up though, but probably it will work out fine I think.

Now it all makes sense: ITV have decided to start pre match coverage at 6.15pm, rather than 7pm. Bizarre choice, that will drag the ratings right down, so no wonder the BBC were happy with DW in the 6.45pm slot! Overkill by ITV, bit of an own goal I think, if you'll pardon the pun...

Overnights last night 5.0 million. 2nd for the night behind the ratings giant of BGT and over a million clear of everything else.....

Are audiences down overall for Saturday nights or is this in line with previous years?

been a pretty rough week for ratings other than BGT. Some episodes of EE have had less than 5 million viewers, I think DW is something like the 3rd highest BBC show of the week.

eta: just checked and yes it is the 3rd highest for the BBC, behind the Monday episode of EE and the news on tue

eta again: in terms of ratings, I would say with time shift this is likely to be the 2nd most watched episode 10 (behind series 4), with a final rating of perhaps 6.8 - 7 million.

Thanks M - always useful to have that perspective. Is there a football clash coming up soon too?

there isn't a direct clash, but next weeks episode does run right up to the kick off of the england game, so overlaps with the build up. Couldn't really be avoided though since ITV opted for a ridiculously long build up (from 6pm, with kick off at 7.30pm). I'm very interested to see how the oversights next week fare actually, though as ever these days I'm more interested in the final figures we get later.

It's really interesting how with each passing week the overnight ratings feel less and less important....

I think its been mentioned here that the BBC and even the papers don't bother much with over nights anymore - so I think your absolutely right.

the bbc are more interested in the final ratings and total reach. The media do need to catch up a bit though, as they do tend to report overnights rather than final ratings still. For example there was a rather nasty little article written on this site by a chap suggesting that Cold Blood was suddenly changed to be on at 7pm after The Hungry Earth dipped below the 5 million mark on overnights, which obviously was a load of rubbish, but they haven't commented on the huge timeshift it got in final ratings (adding two million to it's overnight figure).

It should be added that the delightful English weather (as rare as it is) has probably contributed to a viewer decline. The Hungry Earth and Vincent and the Doctor both aired when the weather was lovely, sunny and hot. So too did Victory of the Daleks, but I'm not sure how that was affected if at all.

I think that not only are overnight figures becoming less accurate in terms of overall viewage (is that even a word?) and there is a greater emphasis on audience share, which has remained pretty consistent (albeit a few ups and downs) since 2005.

lol - the irony is, the digital spy reporter probably got his information from this thread!

it's not really a viewer decline either, it's a decline in overnight ratings, the series is doing as well as ever when you look at the final ratings.

I know i said way up thread I was hoping this series could match the ratings of series 3, which was the lowest rated series since the 2005 return, but instead we are well ahead of that at this point. I think it's clear that series 4 will wind up retaining the crown as having the best ratings average, but if we can keep ahead of the rest of the competition, or at least series 2 and 3, as seems likely, then we will have exceeded my expectations at the start of the series...

The thing is that really this series is about laying a foundation to build on again. And it has done that very nicely indeed.

Just going to add in here the average final ratings for episodes 1 - 8 for series 1 - 5. Final series average in brackets:

series 1 - 8.49 (7.95)
series 2 - 8.00 (7.71)
series 3 - 7.54 (7.55)
series 4 - 7.66 (8.05)
series 5 - 8.14 (?)

You'll note that the average for series 1 and 2 declined through the last quarter of the series, that series 3 remained quite stable, while series 4 increased from this point on, though the figure is slightly distorted by the outstanding performances of JE.

5.0 million for last night apparently.

this includes HD figures.

not bad with the weather

yes already posted up thread...

Series 4 got the boost because of the impending departure of Tennant didn't it?.

Decent overnight there really... I was expecting another below 4.5m to be honest. Fingers crossed it will get over 7million.

Well not so much that as it was not till after series 4 ended that dt annonced he was leaving, but JE had a massive boost due to the cliff hanger suggesting a regeneration was on the cards. Even putting that aside though series 4 did what no other series post 2005 has done, and that is to have audiences going up significantly in the last quarter.

Series 4 also had Catherine Tate so brought in another section of the viewing public. Popularity isn't everything and if the number of times some of us have watched on iplayer then who knows...