DS Forums

 
 

Dr Who Ratings Thread (Merged)


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 22-04-2008, 12:32
amos_brearley
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Spain with Annie
Posts: 7,954
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but can you imagine a line-up of DW, followed by "Britain's Got Talent", then "Casualty"? They're usually the top three rated Saturday shows, but scattered across time and space.
amos_brearley is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 23-04-2008, 13:45
KennyT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NW London
Posts: 19,904
Officials in for week 2...

9.04m (so just 100k down on first week).

K
KennyT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 10:15
rzt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,788
Saturday 26th April 2008
18.20- The Sontaran Stratagem: 6.4m (35.2%)
* 15 minute peak: 6.9m (36.4%) between 18.45-19.00

15-Minute Breakdown:
18:15 …. 4.9 (30.0%)
18:30 …. 6.2 (34.9%)
18:45 …. 6.9 (36.4%)
19:00 …. 5.8 (30.3%)

Second most watched show of the day, behind Britain's Got Talent which got 9.4m (41.3%). Doctor Who beat the opposition on ITV1, Animals Do The Funniest Things, which got 3.3m (19.4%).
rzt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 10:34
Mulett
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Essex
Posts: 8,406
The overnights always seem much lower than the final official figures. But I do think the earlier slot is now having an effect - especially taking into account how hot and sunny it was yesterday. It really needs to take its old time slot back from I'll Do Anything, which is rubbish.
Mulett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 10:44
EmoQueen
 
Posts: n/a
The overnights always seem much lower than the final official figures. But I do think the earlier slot is now having an effect - especially taking into account how hot and sunny it was yesterday. It really needs to take its old time slot back from I'll Do Anything, which is rubbish.
i so agree with you.
how in gods name the BBC thinks putting who on earlier for that pile of old Cack i just dont know.
  Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 10:51
taliesyn30
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 80
Back in the olden days (aw) the Beeb used to have DW, followed by The Generation Game, followed by The DUchess of Duke Street. They had Saturday night sewn up.... they should do something like that again but BGT just seems to be so incredibly popular at the moment it makes me despair of two things. Firstly, a return to quality adult drama on a Saturday n ight, and secondly what the grat british public view as fantastic prime time entertainment!

http://www.telewatcher.com/Science-F...-Four.114566/1

Tal x
taliesyn30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 10:55
Rooks
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,887
Those aren't good figures especially given that we aren't even at the traditional lower ratings months of June and July. The show has lost 2 million viewers in the overnights in only 4 episodes and that'll start the alarm bells ringing at the BBC for sure. Last week I didn't see there being an issue as ratings fluctuate and Doctor Who typically averages in the 7 million mark anyway but this is the third week in a row that the ratings have dropped. The ratings were still good compared to the rest of the BBC's output last night but the sustained drop will now be of concern to the BBC. If it drops again next week I suspect things to change.
Rooks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 10:59
rzt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,788
Those aren't good figures especially given that we aren't even at the traditional lower ratings months of June and July. The show has lost 2 million viewers in the overnights in only 4 episodes and that'll start the alarm bells ringing at the BBC for sure. Last week I didn't see there being an issue as ratings fluctuate and Doctor Who typically averages in the 7 million mark anyway but this is the third week in a row that the ratings have dropped. The ratings were still good compared to the rest of the BBC's output last night but the sustained drop will now be of concern to the BBC. If it drops again next week I suspect things to change.
It's doing better than last year in the ratings, which is very good considering last year it had a decent slot:

S&J 8.2
SC 6.8
G 8.0
DiM 6.3

PiC 8.4
FoP 8.1
PotO 6.9
SS 6.4
rzt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 11:03
Rooks
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,887
It's doing better than last year in the ratings, which is very good considering last year it had a decent slot:

S&J 8.2
SC 6.8
G 8.0
DiM 6.3

PiC 8.4
FoP 8.1
PotO 6.9
SS 6.4
But last year the ratings did at least rise in the third week. This year they've dropped every since episode. That's the concern. Next week will be the real test. If it drops further then the BBC will be very concerned I suspect. If it rises then panic over
Rooks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 11:06
rzt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,788
But last year the ratings did at least rise in the third week. This year they've dropped every since episode. That's the concern. Next week will be the real test. If it drops further then the BBC will be very concerned I suspect. If it rises then panic over
They only dropped from episode 3 to 4 because there were far less people watching tv- it was the hottest day of the year afterall. The share actually increased. I do, however, want BBC to swap DW and I'd Do Nothing around.
rzt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 11:19
KennyT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NW London
Posts: 19,904
It's doing better than last year in the ratings, which is very good considering last year it had a decent slot:

S&J 8.2
SC 6.8
G 8.0
DiM 6.3

PiC 8.4
FoP 8.1
PotO 6.9
SS 6.4
Looking at the 'officials' for last year (with their start times and +change from overnights):

S&J 8.71 (19:00) + .51m
SC 7.23 (19:00) + .43m
G 8.41 (19:40) +.41m (notice how the later start time affects things!)
DiM 6.69 (18:40) +.29m

And this year so far:
PiC 9.14 (18:20) +0.74m
FoP 9.04 (18:45) +0.94m

There's an extra 200-500k recording and watching later on this year than last year. Add to that the iPlayer watchers that weren't around last year (estimated at 50-70k per day for the #1 slot). The numbers for the BBC3 repeats are much the same or better compared to last year too.

So I think it's doing better than OK at the moment.

K
KennyT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 12:52
craggers
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Preston
Posts: 3,605
Still the second most watched program of the day which is good. I almost forgot it was on! The earlier slot is not helping.
craggers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 14:07
Mickey S
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,789
The ratings were still good compared to the rest of the BBC's output last night but the sustained drop will now be of concern to the BBC. If it drops again next week I suspect things to change.
It's not yet clear whether there is a sustained drop. The audience may have been down yesterday, but the audience share was slightly up on last week, indicating that there were simply fewer people watching television at 6.20.

Maybe some of those missing viewers recorded the programme for later, which will show up in the official ratings, or maybe they didn't. I don't think it's going to be possible to spot a genuine trend for several weeks yet.
Mickey S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 16:34
amos_brearley
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Spain with Annie
Posts: 7,954
The timeslot is still the easiest thing to pin the problem on, rather than the quality of the show.
amos_brearley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 16:40
mossy2103
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
The timeslot is still the easiest thing to pin the problem on, rather than the quality of the show.
Or the fact that on certain weeks audiences generally are lower due to weather, other events etc (which is perhaps why audience share is also an important part of the picture).

Or the fact that more people are now timeshifting due to the greater availability of timeshift mechanisms.
mossy2103 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 16:44
Webslark
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wherever I go, there I am
Posts: 18,918

Or the fact that more people are now timeshifting due to the greater availability of timeshift mechanisms.
OMG Are we evolving into Timelords?
Webslark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 16:52
mossy2103
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
I put it down to the timey-wimey thing.
mossy2103 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 22:44
TimCypher
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 8,652
That's not a great viewing figure, especially for an ep that had been trailered extensively, and had a RT cover devoted to it.

As has already been pointed out, it's still up on last year, which I guess is a consolation, plus the audience share was good for the timeslot.

The early showtime is still a pain - missed it live again this week, as I was out shopping with friends in London, and, despite making a conscious effort to get back to the hotel for 6:20, it just didn't happen.

Cue fast download from iPlayer the moment I got back...

Anyway, let's hope we've hit the trough now.

Low viewing figures start to become a problem when the show's up for renewal - thankfully, with S5 already commissioned, even if the figures drop further, there's plenty of time to get things back on track.

If not, well, much as I think RTD's done wonders with the show, it would signal time for a change.

Regards,

Cypher
TimCypher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 22:53
Black Guardian
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: A Crack In Time
Posts: 13,646
I put it down to the timey-wimey thing.
sounds like a job for Moffat..
Black Guardian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2008, 22:55
JohnFlawbod
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: City of London
Posts: 4,573
That's not a great viewing figure, especially for an ep that had been trailered extensively, and had a RT cover devoted to it.

As has already been pointed out, it's still up on last year, which I guess is a consolation, plus the audience share was good for the timeslot.

The early showtime is still a pain - missed it live again this week, as I was out shopping with friends in London, and, despite making a conscious effort to get back to the hotel for 6:20, it just didn't happen.

Cue fast download from iPlayer the moment I got back
...

Anyway, let's hope we've hit the trough now.

Low viewing figures start to become a problem when the show's up for renewal - thankfully, with S5 already commissioned, even if the figures drop further, there's plenty of time to get things back on track.

If not, well, much as I think RTD's done wonders with the show, it would signal time for a change.

Regards,

Cypher
You've surely hit the nail on the head with your own Saturday activity: that's why although the overnight ratings were down, the audience share of those watching TV was up...

...as for this slightly odd concept voiced throughout this thread that a one week dip in audience figures will in some way lead to the cancellation of the entire series: that's not in the least likely. DW remains, as some are at pains to point out, the second most watched programme and most watched Drama of the day and whilst it continues to be such and there is a will to continue making it (rather than swap it for something new) the BBC will continue making it.

All that said: nothing lasts forever and there will undoubtedly come a time when DW finishes its new run...with next year's specials (Series 4 1/2?) and then Series 5, we'll be fine until 2011 at least.
JohnFlawbod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-04-2008, 00:43
amos_brearley
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Spain with Annie
Posts: 7,954
Good points John, the ratings may slide, but if it's still at the top or near the top of the viewing figures for a Saturday night, that points to the fact that general viewing figures are down. I guess the show could slip as low as 5 million, but if it's still getting a 35% audience share and top three most-watched ranking, then there's no cause to worry.
If it slipped to 5 million and was getting less than 30% and was way down the league tables, then alarm bells might ring, but I can't see that happening any time soon.
amos_brearley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-04-2008, 06:32
Dr Thete
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 523
But last year the ratings did at least rise in the third week. This year they've dropped every since episode. That's the concern. Next week will be the real test. If it drops further then the BBC will be very concerned I suspect. If it rises then panic over
Of course they won't be concerned. They'll look at the increased timeshifts, the increased BBC Three figures, the massive iPlayer downloads/streams and decent shares, and be very happy both with the weekly reach and the fact that the show is getting ratings at 6.20 pm on a Saturday that primetime weekday dramas struggle to get.

The lowest overnight ratings the show has had since 2005 were 5.5 million - and that episode ended up with a weekly reach figure of over 7 million. A stonking great audience for any show.
Dr Thete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-04-2008, 09:17
dddddarren
Banned User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,311
i can never get back to see it when its on at 6.20
dddddarren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-04-2008, 09:52
mossy2103
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
...as for this slightly odd concept voiced throughout this thread that a one week dip in audience figures will in some way lead to the cancellation of the entire series: that's not in the least likely. DW remains, as some are at pains to point out, the second most watched programme and most watched Drama of the day and whilst it continues to be such and there is a will to continue making it (rather than swap it for something new) the BBC will continue making it.
Well said that man - very sensible.
mossy2103 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-04-2008, 09:54
mossy2103
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
i can never get back to see it when its on at 6.20
So do you record it, catch the Sunday BBC3 repeat, catch the Friday BBC3 repeat, catch it on iPlayer, catch it on Virgin's CatchUp service, on Sky's service?
mossy2103 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:12.