Sarah was excellent acting which is why they wont show much more of acting challenges. She isnt one of the judges pets so doesnt have a hope in hell.
The Acting scenes really showed who could really play the role
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I think it'd be nice if the BBC uploaded all of the Nancy's acting stints on the internet (like they did with all the auditions) so we could judge for ourselves.
I'm hoping they'll do a task with the As Long As He Needs Me reprise, and the scene that goes directly before it, because that's a nice place to judge acting and singing at the same time...
I'm hoping they'll do a task with the As Long As He Needs Me reprise, and the scene that goes directly before it, because that's a nice place to judge acting and singing at the same time...
On a side note, does anyone remember Connie howling As Long As He Needs Me in the HDYSAPLM? final? (go to bbc.co.uk/maria, in the videos section if not...) She'd have been dreadful in this competition...
Originally Posted by ToySoldier:
“On a side note, does anyone remember Connie howling As Long As He Needs Me in the HDYSAPLM? final? (go to bbc.co.uk/maria, in the videos section if not...) She'd have been dreadful in this competition...”
“On a side note, does anyone remember Connie howling As Long As He Needs Me in the HDYSAPLM? final? (go to bbc.co.uk/maria, in the videos section if not...) She'd have been dreadful in this competition...”
I think it would be fair to say that Connie would suit the role of Nancy not at all. She's far too prim, not a rough edge in sight. If I remember right, the little madam had the cheek to complain about that song choice. One of the greatest songs in musical theatre and she didn't want it.
Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow:
“I think it would be fair to say that Connie would suit the role of Nancy not at all. She's far too prim, not a rough edge in sight. If I remember right, the little madam had the cheek to complain about that song choice. One of the greatest songs in musical theatre and she didn't want it.”
“I think it would be fair to say that Connie would suit the role of Nancy not at all. She's far too prim, not a rough edge in sight. If I remember right, the little madam had the cheek to complain about that song choice. One of the greatest songs in musical theatre and she didn't want it.
”
Yeah, but to be fair if she knew it wasn't going to suit her, then she probably wouldn't want to sing it in the final! There are lots of songs that I really like but I wouldn't thank you for making me sing them in the most important part of a competition for a dream role!
Originally Posted by spider9:
“Lee was barely shown in the acting task with JB last year but more than proved his acting credentials particularly with Bad Day and Paint it Black. I think the only task he was shown as failing was the DVO seduction one
.
*not biased
*”
“Lee was barely shown in the acting task with JB last year but more than proved his acting credentials particularly with Bad Day and Paint it Black. I think the only task he was shown as failing was the DVO seduction one
.*not biased
*”
He passed the DVO seduction task later anyway.
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Yeah, but to be fair if she knew it wasn't going to suit her, then she probably wouldn't want to sing it in the final! There are lots of songs that I really like but I wouldn't thank you for making me sing them in the most important part of a competition for a dream role!”
“Yeah, but to be fair if she knew it wasn't going to suit her, then she probably wouldn't want to sing it in the final! There are lots of songs that I really like but I wouldn't thank you for making me sing them in the most important part of a competition for a dream role!”
Yeah, but in HDYSAPLM, it was just about the song, not the role, and there was no reason why it wouldn't have been a good song for her. The piece is clearly a big favourite of Andrews and he chose it for her in the final. I think her reaction came across as a bit ungrateful. Only a few weeks beforehand, she'd been criticising Simona for complaining about her song choice.
Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow:
“Yeah, but in HDYSAPLM, it was just about the song, not the role, and there was no reason why it wouldn't have been a good song for her. The piece is clearly a big favourite of Andrews and he chose it for her in the final. I think her reaction came across as a bit ungrateful. Only a few weeks beforehand, she'd been criticising Simona for complaining about her song choice.”
“Yeah, but in HDYSAPLM, it was just about the song, not the role, and there was no reason why it wouldn't have been a good song for her. The piece is clearly a big favourite of Andrews and he chose it for her in the final. I think her reaction came across as a bit ungrateful. Only a few weeks beforehand, she'd been criticising Simona for complaining about her song choice.”
I was never a big fan of Connie in the first place, to be fair. I was just saying that I can understand entirely why she complained about the song if she didn't think it was going to do her any favours in the final.
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“I was never a big fan of Connie in the first place, to be fair. I was just saying that I can understand entirely why she complained about the song if she didn't think it was going to do her any favours in the final.”
“I was never a big fan of Connie in the first place, to be fair. I was just saying that I can understand entirely why she complained about the song if she didn't think it was going to do her any favours in the final.
”
Absolutely see where you're coming from
Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow:
“Lee's acting was second to none and he proved that with every single song he performed on the show. Bad Day, Don't wanna talk about it and especially Paint it Black were masterclasses in how to act a song.
Connie was a good performer and could put across a song but she wasn't much of an actress and her limitations were revealed in the role of Maria. If only they had focused more on the acting element, it would have become obvious that someone like Aoife was much better all round performer for the role. I still haven't gotten over the fact that she wasn't even in the final. Total travesty.
I have my reservations about these 'tasks' but in this case, it didn't surprise me that Francesca, Rachel and Sarah shone. It's clear from their performances that their acting abilities are strong. I'm beginning to suspect that these three are the best all round choices for the part.
As for singling out Jessie, I think that the producers are always trying to create an interesting narrative. They're trying to keep things lively. So Jessie puts in the best performance on Saturday, is overwhelmed by praise from the panel, but nobody wants the audience to get complacent and lose interest, so Denise expresses concerns about her acting and so we're back to square one again.
I actually believe that the Nancys are, in general, superior actresses to the Marias. Which is a good job, because the part requires strong acting skills.”
“Lee's acting was second to none and he proved that with every single song he performed on the show. Bad Day, Don't wanna talk about it and especially Paint it Black were masterclasses in how to act a song.
Connie was a good performer and could put across a song but she wasn't much of an actress and her limitations were revealed in the role of Maria. If only they had focused more on the acting element, it would have become obvious that someone like Aoife was much better all round performer for the role. I still haven't gotten over the fact that she wasn't even in the final. Total travesty.
I have my reservations about these 'tasks' but in this case, it didn't surprise me that Francesca, Rachel and Sarah shone. It's clear from their performances that their acting abilities are strong. I'm beginning to suspect that these three are the best all round choices for the part.
As for singling out Jessie, I think that the producers are always trying to create an interesting narrative. They're trying to keep things lively. So Jessie puts in the best performance on Saturday, is overwhelmed by praise from the panel, but nobody wants the audience to get complacent and lose interest, so Denise expresses concerns about her acting and so we're back to square one again.
I actually believe that the Nancys are, in general, superior actresses to the Marias. Which is a good job, because the part requires strong acting skills.”
There are probably more Nancy's who can act but I am not sure anyone is as good as Aoife and Abi. They have both already done a range of comedy and drama with and without accents. I just can't see Rachel as Serena or Maria. Helena does slightly quirky characters well too and we havn't seen much of that either. Come to think of it Leanne with a couple of years more training now might pull off young and vulnerable but tough pretty well too.
Originally Posted by beverleyp:
“Someone who has recorded the programme should upload it to youtube”
“Someone who has recorded the programme should upload it to youtube”
That's making the rather large assumption that someone who has the knowledge to record a programme can upload!!
I think the "negative" on Samantha in the acting was not the kind of negative that was designed to impact viewers. John Barrowman's comments were more of an impact negative, but they were strongly countered by the others on the panel. The acting negative for Jessie was, I think, an impact negative. Maybe it was designed to wake her up. Her singing comments were so positive that they kind of canceled the acting negatives out. All they need to do is show Jessie doing well in a later acting task, with a "see how she has improved" and they can erase the earlier question mark.
They need the strong singers to make it through to the final stages otherwise the show loses credibility. They are getting voting feedback every week, so whilst they may keep putting a Rachel through, they would be daft to cast her, say, if there are other girls who could do the job who the figures show are much more highly liked by the theatregoing public. There's only a certain point up to which it makes sense commercially to "force" something onto the public. I am sure they get info on how far a good video clip can improve voting trends; if the public can be swayed on the back of one clip then they'll be swayed to buy a ticket, but if they prove stickier then they'll prove stickier on ticket sales as well, which is not what the show's producers will want. These shows are not just about marketing, they are about market research as well.
They need the strong singers to make it through to the final stages otherwise the show loses credibility. They are getting voting feedback every week, so whilst they may keep putting a Rachel through, they would be daft to cast her, say, if there are other girls who could do the job who the figures show are much more highly liked by the theatregoing public. There's only a certain point up to which it makes sense commercially to "force" something onto the public. I am sure they get info on how far a good video clip can improve voting trends; if the public can be swayed on the back of one clip then they'll be swayed to buy a ticket, but if they prove stickier then they'll prove stickier on ticket sales as well, which is not what the show's producers will want. These shows are not just about marketing, they are about market research as well.
Francesca and Sarah stood out for me. I was surprised as I'd never really thought of them as being the best actresses through their songs...
Was a bit annoyed though we only got to see half the girls taking part in the task...
Was a bit annoyed though we only got to see half the girls taking part in the task...
Originally Posted by rch:
“Francesca and Sarah stood out for me. I was surprised as I'd never really thought of them as being the best actresses through their songs...
Was a bit annoyed though we only got to see half the girls taking part in the task...”
“Francesca and Sarah stood out for me. I was surprised as I'd never really thought of them as being the best actresses through their songs...
Was a bit annoyed though we only got to see half the girls taking part in the task...”
Its why "raw" is an interesting and difficult word. Those two have been good enough to get into and come out of some of the best professional schools in the country. Jessie it seems has had very little acting experience at only a local level. Does "raw" mean well acted "raw" or totally inexperienced, a bit random but somehow more genuinely "raw"?
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Its why "raw" is an interesting and difficult word. Those two have been good enough to get into and come out of some of the best professional schools in the country. Jessie it seems has had very little acting experience at only a local level. Does "raw" mean well acted "raw" or totally inexperienced, a bit random but somehow more genuinely "raw"?”
“Its why "raw" is an interesting and difficult word. Those two have been good enough to get into and come out of some of the best professional schools in the country. Jessie it seems has had very little acting experience at only a local level. Does "raw" mean well acted "raw" or totally inexperienced, a bit random but somehow more genuinely "raw"?”
Well, if I were Andrew I'd much rather have a rawness that was acted by a reliable professional, than the 'raw' of an inexperienced and fallible unknown. One should be able to give any kind of emotion to their performance without necessarily being in that position themselves; that's what being an actress is about.
Originally Posted by beverleyp:
“Someone who has recorded the programme should upload it to youtube”
“Someone who has recorded the programme should upload it to youtube”
I have uploaded the Acting VT clip from last Sunday to the website (click my name). There were no comments from DVO about Keisha, Fran or Ashley. She said Sarah was good, Rachel great and Samantha forgot her lines. Jessie was "all over the place" and Jodie didn't impress.
Niamh didn't appear in the clip (strange), nor did Tara or Cleo.
You're right about it being strange for those girls not being shown in the acting task, as both John Barrowman and Andrew Lloyd webber have expressed how impressed they were with Niamh's acting and ALW also stated about how well we thought Cleo acted.
Originally Posted by rch:
“You're right about it being strange for those girls not being shown in the acting task, as both John Barrowman and Andrew Lloyd webber have expressed how impressed they were with Niamh's acting and ALW also stated about how well we thought Cleo acted.”
“You're right about it being strange for those girls not being shown in the acting task, as both John Barrowman and Andrew Lloyd webber have expressed how impressed they were with Niamh's acting and ALW also stated about how well we thought Cleo acted.”
Yes, I mentioned this somewhere - maybe earlier in this thread - about it also being odd that Tara wasn't shown in the acting clips either. I'm not remotely a Tara supporter but considering we're always being reminded that her background is in acting on a Welsh soap, I thought they might have shown her in action on the acting task.
I'm a bit frustrated that so little of the task footage is being shown on TV. After all, the finalists seem to be getting very little opportunity to show more of their 'real' personality on the live show. The different ways in which they approach the missions can reveal quite a bit (depending on the editing
) about how they might approach the role. Part of the reason (or excuse imo
) for moving the results show to Sunday was so that there would be more opportunity for extra performances etc, but the show is no longer than it was when shown live last year. I'm really not a fan of the delayed results show idea, but at least with Strictly we got an extended results show to make up for it. If they did the same with this show, we might actually see more of the 'missions'.
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