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Why there is no nudity whatsoever this year
srGFX
24-07-2003
Big Brother picked the housemates for BB4 this year. Cameron stipulated in his contract that they should show no frontal nudity on Channel4 or E4 so Endemol bent over and kissed his sacred ass. A contract was drawn up to hold Endemol to this agreement. The other housemates automatically had the same conditions as Cameron so that Endemol were shown to be non-biased towards the Camoron.

natural lamer
24-07-2003
Do you have any evidence of this?

It's just it seems to me as though any HM who tried to get special deals written into their contract would just be told to get lost. They've got many thousands of people to pick from, after all.

But I suppose Cameron could have been one of the few must-need HM's, since they'd already decided they wanted the quiet christian Orkney lad ... perhaps that specfic character is rather harder to just replace.
Hamlet77
24-07-2003
They are all practised media wannabees, all the ladies had obviously been practising changeing their under wear beneath their clothing.

And remember the sight of Gos topless, i've only just been able to get back to work and some of the pills I take still make me see double
srGFX
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by natural lamer
Do you have any evidence of this?
”

email BBLB and they will tell you that this year in their contracts no nudity will be shown. If you know any of the people on the show they will tell you why too
natural lamer
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by srGFX
email BBLB and they will tell you that this year in their contracts no nudity will be shown. If you know any of the people on the show they will tell you why too ”

I see If that's true, and I can well believe it is, that sort of seals it really.

The only reason to pander to some HMs contract demands is that you've already decided to centre the show around him. What other reason can Cameron fans come up with for Endemol agreeing to a silly unknowns contract demands?
Lucytash
24-07-2003
IF it's true, it's outrageous. It makes nudity dirty & sinful (according to the Cameron bible) & in so doing is saying that God's creation of the human body is dirty & sinful.
At the end of the day, we've all got more or less the same bits & pieces , according to one's gender, - just variations of colour & size!

And furthermore, IF it's true,it makes the Orkney one's sly trips to the bathroom when the girls were in the bath, even more perverted.

Ugh, where's my bucket!
nickerscat
24-07-2003
Maybe it's a blessing in disguise - the thought of Cameron naked as the day he was born would probably be too much for my digestive system
Achtung
24-07-2003
They've never shown nudity in Big Brother neither on Channel 4 nor on E4 apart from the odd accidental towel-slip. Nudity has only been shown in the videos they relase, I don't think that'll be covered in Cameron's contract.

Anyway, I'm glad he insisted on this, seeing Cameron's arse on our screens would be worse than Jade doing that strip.
Lucytash
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by nickerscat
Maybe it's a blessing in disguise - the thought of Cameron naked as the day he was born would probably be too much for my digestive system ”

This is true!
Lucytash
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Achtung
They've never shown nudity in Big Brother neither on Channel 4 nor on E4 apart from the odd accidental towel-slip. Nudity has only been shown in the videos they relase, I don't think that'll be covered in Cameron's contract.

Anyway, I'm glad he insisted on this, seeing Cameron's arse on our screens would be worse than Jade doing that strip.
”

I believe that if you check back to BB1, Nicola & Craig both stripped off to do body paintings of themselves on the wall. I've never bought the videos.
Pollyanna
24-07-2003
Maybe you need to go up a few channels................ but then I think you have to subscribe to them
ben4321
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Lucytash
I believe that if you check back to BB1, Nicola & Craig both stripped off to do body paintings of themselves on the wall. I've never bought the videos. ”

There was also the evening during BB2 when Elizabeth, Helen and Amma shared a bath. Not that I remember much about it of course...
ubermind
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by srGFX
Big Brother picked the housemates for BB4 this year. Cameron stipulated in his contract that they should show no frontal nudity on Channel4 or E4 so Endemol bent over and kissed his sacred ass. A contract was drawn up to hold Endemol to this agreement. The other housemates automatically had the same conditions as Cameron so that Endemol were shown to be non-biased towards the Camoron.

”

Actually it was Jon's contract that stipulated this. I think your source is flawed.

Jon didn't want his tiny penis to be shown on national telly so he made it clear that he wont tolerate any full frontal nudity on the show.
PhattMatt
24-07-2003
If you think there's been no nudity whatsoever this year, you haven't been looking very hard. Besides its going to be hard to match the dizzy heights of Amma shaving her pubic region!
srGFX
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Achtung
They've never shown nudity in Big Brother neither on Channel 4 nor on E4 apart from the odd accidental towel-slip. Nudity has only been shown in the videos they relase, I don't think that'll be covered in Cameron's contract.

Anyway, I'm glad he insisted on this, seeing Cameron's arse on our screens would be worse than Jade doing that strip.
”

I presume you never watched BB1, BB2 or BB3?

They quite clearly did, look at what they showed with Jade, they showed Kate clearly naked on the channel 4 show which I was surprised and many other housemates before that such as Mel/Nichola etc.
Pasta
24-07-2003
Well, they changed the rules in BB Africa to accommodate Cameron's excessive modesty, so they did it once.
pmc
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ubermind
Actually it was Jon's contract that stipulated this. I think your source is flawed.

Jon didn't want his tiny penis to be shown on national telly so he made it clear that he wont tolerate any full frontal nudity on the show.
”

Wow - the man is gifted: two penises! Because the one they did show (on the C4 show no less) looked pretty normal sized. No wonder people say he's too cocky!
Clarat
24-07-2003
Seeing Camerons pastey white arse cheek in tonights shows was too much for me!!!
Edna
24-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ubermind
Actually it was Jon's contract that stipulated this. I think your source is flawed.

Jon didn't want his tiny penis to be shown on national telly so he made it clear that he wont tolerate any full frontal nudity on the show.
”

Hmm. Now I got a good view of Jon's penis on E4 when Ray yanked his shorts down - it was edited when it was shown again.

Please forgive me for not rushing to the forums to post a thread entitled: "OMG!!!!!! I SAW JON'S WILLY!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!"
Achtung
27-07-2003
Originally posted by srGFX:

Quote:
“I presume you never watched BB1, BB2 or BB3?”

Yes, I did and I'm sure they didn't show full nudity apart from on the uncut videos/dvds. The only occasion I can remember was Craig, Nichola, Mel and Andy when they were doing the clay body painting but it was only shown in all it's glory on the BB1 video. Jade playing strip poker too, she wasn't shown fully naked on the Channel 4 highlights programme, she was shown covering herself. It was a classic though that one.
Coljj
27-07-2003
Something that may make E4 tonight if the feeds are on the shower at the time.

Ali Surprise.asf (save as)
Hil
27-07-2003
Last year (& probably this year) it was agreed that they wouldn't film them naked in the shower unless there was more than one person in there.

I remember Kate's dad being annoyed, he said they went agaisnt this becasue they showed Kate's bum in the outdoor shower. (Kate a few months later was photographed topless on hoiday, this was probably set up and if not she'd have been very naive to not realize this could happen. So that was protest was all for show)

anyway, I guess that is why they didn't film Cameron in the shower in south Africa as the UK contract still applied to him.
lulu
27-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by srGFX
Big Brother picked the housemates for BB4 this year. Cameron stipulated in his contract that they should show no frontal nudity on Channel4 or E4 so Endemol bent over and kissed his sacred ass. A contract was drawn up to hold Endemol to this agreement. The other housemates automatically had the same conditions as Cameron so that Endemol were shown to be non-biased towards the Camoron.

”

See today's 'printed' NOTW. If that's not nudity (altho NOTW have censored bits of it) then I don't know what is.

lu
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