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Old 13-04-2008, 02:00
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well have friends where he comes from and they say he isnt bullied

but it makes for a good sob story dont it?
Bullying is quite subjective, though. Considering he looked like a shy little kid who is already self-conscious of singing then if someone thinks they're joking it could really upset him, he didn't mean it and to an outsider it might look innocuous but if it upsets the kid...

I can't think someone who's got as far as being a head chorister in a cathedral doesn't have the self confidence, but if he's in a normal school he probably is surrounded by kids who don't sing and if he's still walking around with high voice then he might easily be a target and seen as an oddity... Whatever...

Only one person knows if he's affected by it and that's him.
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Old 13-04-2008, 02:12
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I know - I was in the "proper" choir at school from year 7 to year 13. Just the general perception is that it isn't cool for boys to sing.

All boys school kind of helped, but in a mixed school it kind of is different, little kids don't sing which means that you don't get the older kids in. Our school was more reliant on the kids singing through the break (which isnt always possible) and staying in the choir to sing one of the lower 2/3 parts after it's gone... because chances are once a kid's finished you won't get them back in.

Just look at that The Choir programme which was on BBC a while back - the one where Gareth Malone took a choir from a school which previously didn't have one to China or somewhere. Kids can sing, they either don't realise it, or choose not to because it's not cool.

Of course, none of this applies to Andrew Johnston who's been singing since he was six.
Gareth is Amazing .. ok we dont know what really goes on , but I loved it when he swore because of his frustration ,


and good for you for being in the choir

I have mentioned to my son that he is lucky to be the only BOY in the choir
1 he gets all the Male voice parts
and
2 he has all the girls to himself lol
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Old 13-04-2008, 02:16
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Gareth is Amazing .. ok we dont know what really goes on , but I loved it when he swore because of his frustration ,


and good for you for being in the choir

I have mentioned to my son that he is lucky to be the only BOY in the choir
1 he gets all the Male voice parts
and
2 he has all the girls to himself lol
Lol.

Well, it shows Gareth Malone was normal He did well, considering what he had to work with was natural talent as opposed to anything coached.

And your son should keep singing. It's needed
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Old 13-04-2008, 02:38
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Biology is always a risk... Good choirboys are a ticking timebomb.
Aled Jones voice didn't break until he was 16...
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Old 13-04-2008, 02:38
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So where were the sob stories for the other acts?

I thought it was clear that this had all been set up and the judges knew exactly what he was going to say about being bullied.
It all looked pre-rehearsed and set up for the show.

Yes he was a very good singer and may deserve to win. But there's no denying that this was set up television and the boy was deliberately being primed to be a finalist before he even started singing.
It was as though before he even sang somebody to do with the show told him beforehand to talk about his bullying. It was just so mechanical the way he just blurted out to the judges that he'd been bullied in a 'Oh, by the way, before I start singing I've got something to tell you first' type of manner.
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Old 13-04-2008, 03:09
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Yes I think Andrew is his name,and he seemed to be a shy kid.His performance was the last before the program finished.I would say more people were watching then than at the beginning or in the middle of yhe show.He definitely has a chance of winning.
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Old 13-04-2008, 03:18
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Aled Jones voice didn't break until he was 16...
Yes, and I was 14. Ben Crawley was 17. Some go at 11. It varies.
Yes I think Andrew is his name,and he seemed to be a shy kid.His performance was the last before the program finished.I would say more people were watching then than at the beginning or in the middle of yhe show.He definitely has a chance of winning.
Hmm yes, if he can control his nerves. He looked like he was about to be sick before he went on :S
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Old 13-04-2008, 03:24
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Forest I sent you a PM check up there ^ lol
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Old 13-04-2008, 03:26
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Yeah I saw, but I'm on lappy and the desktop's playing Handel in 24-bit splendour!
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Old 13-04-2008, 07:23
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Yes, and I was 14. Ben Crawley was 17. Some go at 11. It varies.
Leonardo DiCaprio was 18.
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Old 13-04-2008, 07:31
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I actually feel sorry for the poor child.

He's only goikng to get exploited on a programme like this. Can't he just be happy being a chorister. Can't stand choral music anyway, and I always think it quite bizarre that children sing this sort of stuff. I'm not surprised he gets bullied. Does he have parents? I missed the sob story.

I think a singer will always win this - purely because variety is dead and singers have more chance of having some sort of career.
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Old 13-04-2008, 09:27
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I thought he was excellent, though I'm not really into that choirboy sort of music.
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Old 13-04-2008, 10:12
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I would normally agree with you but that young lad is exceptional.

Better than Aled Jones by far.
He was good but that's overegging the pudding.

He was one of the very good acts on last night but that's all, only one of them. There were three that were better in my opinion.

He has a nice voice but he's a chorister and his voice is no better and no worse than any other chorister I've ever heard. He also lacks any other appeal. That was probably why they started playing on the sob story.
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Old 13-04-2008, 10:23
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It was a definite set up for the sob story angle. Simon said ''do your friends support you".
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Old 13-04-2008, 11:14
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amazing! moved me to tears
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Old 13-04-2008, 12:07
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He was good but that's overegging the pudding.

He was one of the very good acts on last night but that's all, only one of them. There were three that were better in my opinion.

He has a nice voice but he's a chorister and his voice is no better and no worse than any other chorister I've ever heard. He also lacks any other appeal. That was probably why they started playing on the sob story.
I agree with your sentiments exactly - he was a good singer but that's all - no star quality although Paul Potts didn't have either I can't be doing with yet another sob story like Paul had (and Leon from XF) I would prefer someone to win because they're the most talented.

I hope someone other than a singer wins this year though, it would make it more interesting - I'm rooting for the dog, lol!
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Old 13-04-2008, 12:17
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I actually feel sorry for the poor child.

He's only goikng to get exploited on a programme like this. Can't he just be happy being a chorister. Can't stand choral music anyway, and I always think it quite bizarre that children sing this sort of stuff. I'm not surprised he gets bullied. Does he have parents? I missed the sob story.

I think a singer will always win this - purely because variety is dead and singers have more chance of having some sort of career.
:yawn:

So you don't like it, therefore no one else should sing it? Blimey. No wonder classical music suffers so if parents have your attitude. Shame on you.
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Old 13-04-2008, 12:34
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Good voice but I hate the sob stories, they're just annoying.
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Old 13-04-2008, 13:38
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What was so amazing about it? Sure, he can sing, but it's just the usual choirboy stuff. People have no discernment anymore, and I don't mean that in a snobby way. And f*ck the audience for cheering all the way through. Can't the thick bints just sit and listen?

Why do people have to be so rude on these threads:
Give the lad some credit, At least he had the guts to stand up and do it, And it was a note perfect performance. Well done Andrew!!!!! And good luck throughout the rest of the heats x
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Old 13-04-2008, 14:19
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Bullying is quite subjective, though. Considering he looked like a shy little kid who is already self-conscious of singing then if someone thinks they're joking it could really upset him, he didn't mean it and to an outsider it might look innocuous but if it upsets the kid...

I can't think someone who's got as far as being a head chorister in a cathedral doesn't have the self confidence, but if he's in a normal school he probably is surrounded by kids who don't sing and if he's still walking around with high voice then he might easily be a target and seen as an oddity... Whatever...

Only one person knows if he's affected by it and that's him.
A kid who is head chorister and sings infront of big audiences, a kid who plays rugby is shy?

One sentance from him about bullying and everyone says Ah and gives him they sympathy vote

If he was being bullied I just wonder why it wasnt reported in the numerous local interviews in the media

It seems quite convenient it was brought up on national TV when it would appeal to the gullible
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Old 13-04-2008, 14:21
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Why do people have to be so rude on these threads:
Give the lad some credit, At least he had the guts to stand up and do it, And it was a note perfect performance. Well done Andrew!!!!! And good luck throughout the rest of the heats x
yes it was a nice performance

only to me and IMO ruined by the sob story
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Old 13-04-2008, 14:29
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OMG I am watching the re-run of BGT and I have cried all over again
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Old 13-04-2008, 14:32
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A kid who is head chorister and sings infront of big audiences, a kid who plays rugby is shy?

One sentance from him about bullying and everyone says Ah and gives him they sympathy vote

If he was being bullied I just wonder why it wasnt reported in the numerous local interviews in the media

It seems quite convenient it was brought up on national TV when it would appeal to the gullible
Big audiences? Maybe not. Carlisle Cathedral is tiny - it's (behind St Davids) the 2nd smallest in the country. Playing rugby - well, maybe that's the sport they play at school. You can read anything into that.

What about Gareth Gates - similar situation, he could sing but he was nervous talking on TV so stammered. And Gates was a former head chorister (at Bradford Cathedral) so it's not about that. Quite often these kids are in a comfort zone with a routine which they're used to and take them out of that and it can make them nervous.

He can still be shy even if he does that, he looked a bit edgy until he started singing.

Don't really understand why the bullying would be reported. There's still no excuse to pick on a kid because he sings anyway.

It would be a sob story if the kid didn't have talent as well, definitely, but he should go far on merit.
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Old 13-04-2008, 15:19
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As long as the bullying story isnt dragged up all the time, then its fine IMO.
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Old 13-04-2008, 15:25
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As long as the bullying story isnt dragged up all the time, then its fine IMO.
Well, he should go where he does on his merit not because some silly CLKs bully him for being a choirboy.
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