1/ Better HM mix... better age range HM's older/younger (within reason) to play on the age gap ... more gay/bi/lez HM's (loved to have seen Cameron actually face to face with someone gay) .. .. some regular BB type HM's but also the laid back HM's as well...

2/ Once a house mate goes there out for good, make Tickle is a one off... play around with that too much and you defeat the purpose of BB....

3/ Keep them guessing don't have a reward room every Saturday so they can't get in routine/rut or be able to predict what's going to happen.... as in BB3 make the motto "expect the unexpected"...

4/ Have more tasks such as the "Issues" task where the HM's have to reveal there true feelings to the house....

5/ I think the BB:Africa swap worked, more of the same...

6/ In BB3 they had a chance to get a message from home on the big screen in the BB house i think that worked especially late in the series...

7/ The BB4 HM's one week only had a few quid for the food budget and yet i don't think they actually went hungry... not going as far as the BB3 rich/poor house but something on those lines...

8/ A house divide based around a task?

9/ Secret rooms as well as the reward room...

10/ Celeb guests... this has been done in other BB houses around the woirld and has worked.. how about a task where they have to interview a visiting celeb???

11/ Elect a house leader every week...

12/ Before BB3 E4 showed audition tapes, why can't we decide/vote for the final HM's as there going to do with FA2????...

and if you could give advice to the BB5 producers?

Producers should reach puberty before working on BB.

"Now then, this is your first day producing BB5. Don't f**k it up like last year's lot or you will be sacked too."

NO ......no more swap......i didn't see the point of it and i almost forgotten there was a swap , thats how dull it was

13/ Watch BB3 and copy it

Dont tell HM to be themselves, tell them to play the f'ing game.

Can see your point lala... if the BB4 house had been entertaining enough we wouldn't of needed it...

Love your work

Wanted to add please don't have HM's that say afterwards... "I never really wanted to be in the house anyway and no i didn't learn anything from being in BB house"...

Let them talk about nominations.

And I agree with the opinion task but have it nearer the beginning so they have something to disagree about.

Also have 2 prizewinners - one in the usual way via evictions, the other judged to have been the most entertaining or made the biggest contribution to the series - to be voted on at the end by a panel, e.g. past winners (GBP can't be trusted as we've seen this series!) - give them something to work for.

I think the having them all up and voting for who you want kept in is a good idea that could be used at least once.

But the biggest thing I think that each year they are forgetting to do is Give Them Something To Do Every Day!!!!!
Mix in elements of the rare things they have had over the years, the talk subjects, games and give them tasks that last longer and that are more involved. I loved the pedalo task, kept me watching and it was funny to wake up at 4am and see them still at it!

They may moan about them always sunbathing or reading (even to the point of taking books off them that had been in the house for 3 and 4 weeks without comment) but did they actually give them anything to do during the days? No they didn't.

People keep suggesting number 12, now this year the public have made a pigs ear of evicting housemates, why do you think they will be any better picking them.

For FA the mix is not so important, as they are kept really busy, & their days have structure.

as far as 6 & 10, these people are supposed to be isolated, what is the purpose of introducting a celeb for a few hours?

My advice to them would be to look for another career, when they grow up.

HMs can talk about nominations, on a personal level like who they voted for and why, BUT they are not allowed to talk endlessly about the whole BB experience. For me, that was one of the main things that killed it dead this year - don't have E4 so only saw C4 highlights - and it seemed like that's all they ever talked about.

Just cancel the whole thing and concentrate on producing new programming.

BB is just so tired and flaccid now - a pale shadow of its former self. Please put it to rest now.

I refuse to believe that anyone involved in BB4 really gives a toss anymore and they want it over as much as many of the viewers do.

My advice for the BB4 producers for BB5? Kill yourselves. Get a camera and beat yourself to death with it. You deserve nothing more. You have been awful - words cannot begin to describe how bad. But I want you to kill yourselves not because you produce bad television - you do - but because you have turned into the biggest pack of money grabbing leeches that have ever sullied a television channel. You suck.

When your successors arrive my advice to them - assuming that they want to live - is

1) Do not let your first thought be "How can we turn this into a text vote". An idea can be good even if you cannot immediately get people to give you money.

2) Edit fairly - nothing cheapens BB4 more than blatant favourtism.

3) Let the story develop naturally - your predecessors blew it by inventing the Cam and Steph "relationship", which everybody knew was nonsense. Do this and you'll look a bunch of dorks. But if your doing this then you'll probably be dead soon, so you may not care.

4) Get Them Interacting - tasks, mini-challenges, personal rewards: have them all geared towards interaction. The last lot started well with the pedalo task, and then lost it completely.

5) No more stupid gimmicks - simple is best.

6) The golden rule is isolation - if you are going to break the golden rule then make sure it is for a very good reason: averting the end of the world, or something equally serious. Otherwise no nonsense.

7) Change the voting and nomination system. Either the housemates vote positive (two people to keep in) or the public vote positively. Having both voting negatively killed BB4.

8) Select enough housemates so that you can kick a few out without needing a Lisa type replacement (late, as opposed to barking).

9) Trust the Format - it works. Use a light hand to steer it.

Do this and you may just make it to BB6. Otherwise.....

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I'm still getting used to Cameron being the BB4 wiiner so be patient with me

Some points from the posts...

BB5 really really needs to have the HM's interacting right through the 64 day's, they need have regular "Issue" tasks where they have to reveal there opinions, no more hiding behind masks..

Bring back the mini-challenges, keep them on there toes...

Big Brother is all about control & isolation, from what i've seen of BB:Africa and BB:USA the BB's there are much tougher...
BB UK take note...

I still think the "Celeb" task would be a good idea, just because there's a celeb in the house doesn't mean the celeb is there to interact... the celeb is there for a task.. for example for a task where the HM's interview the person...

As in FA give the HM's day's some structure, they need something to do every day

I'm still backing number 12 on my list... let the viewer have some say in the choosing of final HM's for BB5.... but even if we don't get that... for heaven's sake get the mix right for BB5!!!


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Love your work pmc

I agree with giving them little "mini-tasks" each day, for example in the first Big Brother when the housemates would clean the windows for a packet of crisps, or when they did the journalist task. More things like that, but not ANYTHING like the terrible tasks in BB4... I can't believe primetime television is watching someone searching for a needle in a haystack. More things to get an insight into the housemate's character, eg. the superhero task.

Also, it needs to be presented in a more "pyschological" way, similar to BB1. In BB1 the series hadn't been taken over by its own hype and was a simple, honest programme - now in BB4 it seems all the new "twists" are centred around making money. In BB1 the housemates had pyschological analysis things every episode, rather than a novelty "clever" programme every Sunday. Even the commentary needs to be a bit more probing and thought-provoking, rather than "Gos and Cameron have been in the kitchen for seventeen minutes, cooking a meal of steak and chips"!

Big Brother needs to stop "messing with the housemate's minds", eg. the divide and Jon's re-entry. It's turning from a simple pyschological experiment into a bright, brash gameshow. In BB3 the housemates weren't living together, how natural is having bars up seperating the housemates?

I agree that Big Brother should take a break for a year or so, if anything this will increase the number of applicants and give the producers time to work out a great series, the perfect mix of housemates and a new, fresh spin on the house. I'm thinking something like a tower block apartment, more like a real house rather than a glorified studio. Don't have boys and girls bedrooms, have four or five bedrooms and watch the reactions.

The housemates - have a mix of complex people that take weeks and weeks to unfold properly - make these people housemates to think about as well as entertain. I remember in the first series I would think about the views, opinions, actions etc. of the more complex characters - in BB3 it was more like light, simple, shallow entertainment - both are valid forms of entertainment. A good mix of characters would be good to view reactions and interactions between them - whoever said someone had to be loud to be interesting?

Big Brother needs to tone down it's big standards of crowds, screaming and voting etc., and go back to a complex pyschological experiment on watching twelve people living in a natural environment under very unnatural circumstances.

Forget all this mini tasks bla bla bla etc!

Just get some f***ing interesting contestants forgod sake that are watchable for nine weeks

The only problem they had this year was the mix of people. They went for a different type of housemate and the dynamics failed. They weren't to know this would happen though, as none of the 12 had mixed before entering the house, nobody was to know how well/badly they would get on.
Also we play a part in this too. The housemates select the ones for eviction each week and then it's us, the viewers, who pick up the phones to vote. We forget that if someone is annoying, loud, bitchy etc that they are the ones that are keeping it entertaining. Anouska would have kept things lively, LIsa would have annoyed them all, even Fed and sissy might have added more then the ones we were left with. But nevemind! it's all over and it's only meant to be for fun!!
oh and back to topic - next year, in about the 4th week they should gather all the HM's together on the sofas and show them that weeks nominations. Certainly spice it up! LOL

this idea hasnt been done before, how about we put in all the house mates ex' boyfriends and girlfriends

I'll limit myself to one opinion: When choosing next year's HMs, don't over react to the way this series has been received. 12 wacky, loud-mouthed, argumentative, opinionated individuals would be just as boring as this lot have been. Aim for diversity and people who aren't afraid of interaction, that's what will make me go back to watching next year.

There was a knee-jerk reaction to the way BB3 was received last year - too much bickering and booing by the crowds led to 12 bland, likeable, grounded, unopinionated types being put in this year. Don't make the same mistake again. None of the HMs was a 'wrong' choice individually - they just didn't make for stimulating watching when put together. Just think how much more interesting Cameron was when you dropped him into BB Africa - when he had people to bounce off of and have disagreements (as opposed to arguments) with, he was far more watchable.

People on the whole voted for people who they didnt like - on the whole that was who was entertaining. I propose we replace the whole UK population

I'd like to see a more diverse mix of housemates.

Also, housemates should be included from other countries, as contrasting cultural attitudes and possible culture clashes would be interesting to see.

I agree that they also need more things to do during the day, as watching someone sunbathe is tedious viewing.

From the editing point of view, extend the highlights coverage whenever needed, and only show the interesting things that have happened. This may act as a deterrant to applicants who intend to ride through the experience by keeping a low profile and sitting in the background. It may also cut down on pointless coverage of early morning events, such as porridge making.

The current approach of choosing a particular housemate beforehand to focus the entire 9 weeks on is a big mistake if that housemate turns out to be boring, and is at the detriment of other more absorbing housemates. Rather than have a rigid plan of what they intend to happen every week, the producers should take a back seat hand over control to fate and just let things happen.

The choice of housemates has been polarised. Too often they are picking complete dullards or wannabe redcoats.

I still believe that it is possible for someone to be entertaining without them being Jonny Regan. Anna was one of the best housemates ever. I also had a big soft spot for Bubble. They were nice people with personality.

Last year they ran the documentary "How not to get on Big Brother" where they gave some very sensible rules for rejecting audition tapes (no singing, no nudity) but they seem to ignore these in then hopes of finding a "character". So far this has failed dismally.

I think that the 'shock eviction' , where everyone is up for nomination should come at about week 3, just when they have got settled into the house and we as viewers can make some sort of informed choice. If we are then left with the boring ones then we only have ourselves to blame.

If 3 or 4 of the least popular housemates were evicted at this point then 2 or 3 new people could be put in and stand a reasonable chance of survival. I am sure that would spice up the dynamics.

I mean how the hell did they give Steph an interview by watching her application video