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The Apprentice UK Series 4 - Episode 4 - BBC1 (9pm-10pm) |
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I think it was interesting they were speculating that Simon was safe back at the house and he had some favour with SrAlan, maybe this is what caused Simon's downfall, they saw him as a threat and they knew what buttons to push too
I like(d) Simon, it was a shame he went because he was a hard worker and as you said he could have possibly made the others worried with the fact that Sir Alan likes/ed him. |
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Ratings for this episode
around 7 million viewers, peaking at 7.6. I believe these are the highest the show's ever gotten for a finale episode, maybe any episode? ![]() How long before the GBP get wise to the fix? Edits and e.g. Claire being kept against the advice of Margaret and Nick are going to kick in at some point. I read somewhere that M and N spend about 4 hours giving feedback to AS about the task. I would love to see a BBC digital programme on that. |
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I believe that she was responsible for relaying the information between Simon and the others in the printing department.
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YES SHE WAS.
![]() I clearly remember in last year's Apprentice threads that people were speaking about her in the same way that they are currently speaking about Claire and Jenny. It wasn't 'some people' it was 'most people'. Maybe your memory isn't as reliable as you thought
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just caught up with this episode wot a shame simon went a truly genuine bloke-prob couldnt manage a kids party but still someone u can trust
claire on the other hand wot anasty piece of work |
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I watched this episode and was very disappointed with the calibre of everybody on both teams. They didn't have a clue as to running a business - and couldn't even operate a computer to the level of a 4 year old. I would have sacked the lot of them and got some people in with at least ½ a brain cell (between them).
And if anybody thinks that they can get a prime pitch in the Bluewater Shopping complex for free, they really need a reality check. I reckon both teams would have been out of pocket to the tune of £500 if rental costs were taken into account. What is worrying is that these folks will probably end up as marketing guys who will come round and recommend how you run your business and charge you a fortune for their 'advice'. |
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A bit late, but I finally got around to watching this episode. First impressions are that the wrong team were in the boardroom waiting to be fired. Despite making the most profit, Helene's team were a bunch of thieving bar stewards, charging £15.99 for a sheet of printed paper.
That said, under the rules of the game this doesn't matter and as such Simon was facing the chopping block long before he got to the board room. Now for all those who disagreed with me over Claire, I most humbly apologise to you all. While I like her as a person, she is an aggressive, pushy woman that should by rights have been fired. Simon should have got her out of his face early doors, her responsibility was the back room technical section. So why was she out front constantly in his face, when she had no place being there. The task failed as she wasn't doing the job she was given, which was liaison with Sara & Simon. Irrespective of the issues over the photo's not matching up, her job should have been to sort that out or implement some system to resolve this. Instead she just wanted to get in Simon's face all the time, arguing stupid points. Overall, not impressed with Alex who is lazy and unwilling to take any responsibility. Helene had a cheek to say Lucinda was lazy, every shot we saw of Helene was of her standing in the background with her thumbs up her ****. As for Lucinda, she stated from the off that she wasn't capable of the job allocated to her, yet Helene seemed determined to make her the scapegoat should things go wrong; even before the task was started. Claire has gone way way way down in my estimation after this episode and I can see her having real trouble next week as PM. |
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I watched this episode and was very disappointed with the calibre of everybody on both teams. They didn't have a clue as to running a business - and couldn't even operate a computer to the level of a 4 year old. I would have sacked the lot of them and got some people in with at least ½ a brain cell (between them).
And if anybody thinks that they can get a prime pitch in the Bluewater Shopping complex for free, they really need a reality check. I reckon both teams would have been out of pocket to the tune of £500 if rental costs were taken into account. What is worrying is that these folks will probably end up as marketing guys who will come round and recommend how you run your business and charge you a fortune for their 'advice'. |
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I'm the opposite!! I seem to just wander round in circles in Bluewater and never find where I'm trying to get to, whereas in Lakeside I'm in and out if I need to be!!
It is worth going through the tunnel to be able to shop in peace
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What's happened to my post?
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How was Alex a bad manager? Raef misidentified the fish. Nick mispriced them. As soon as Alex noticed what was going wrong with the market stall task, he tried to remedy the situation. He can't be blamed for the fact that the chinless wonders he then sent to sell the remaining fish settled for a price even further below the market rate than they had already been selling them.
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I much prefer Lakeside too, Bluewater always gives me a headache as it is so echoie and noisy
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Bluewater is about the only place I can tolerate shopping. I can't bear it normally but at least there you just have to walk in a circle and know that before too long you will end up at the exit to get in your car and escape. Lakeside just does my head in as I always lose my bearings!
Not the most girlie of girls, me! Lakeside has spent the last couple of years updating itself because it lost so much business to Bluewater after it opened. Lakeside looked so dated before and it's only 5 years older than Bluewater. It looks a lot better now but they really should have invested some money in the multi-storeys. They are so badly lit, poorly laid out and generally intimidating compared to Bluewater's, particularly the staircases that are closed compared to Bluewater's open plan ones. When I go with my sister we always make sure we park in the ground car parks or on the Debenhams floor, as close as possible to the door, but we don't feel at all intimidated in the Bluewater ones. Bluewater's setting (a large man-made park) is also much prettier than Lakeside's (the end of a retail park) and it's much nicer to stay around in before and after shopping. Bluewater also caters for the higher end of the market as wel as the middle whereas Lakeside caters for the middle and lower end (I'm not going to make any comments about Kent v Essex )
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...and all those orange women make your eyes ache
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Simon was the right person to be fired. He is also one of the nicest candidates out of the whole 16, but this is not supposed to be a popularity contest. As nice as he was, he was not able to cope with the task, he was a bad PM, and he was waffling about knowing all about cameras and photography - maybe he did know all about those things, but he didn't know much else. Bad team leader, probably a very good second in command (which he said himself).
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Simon was the right person to be fired. He is also one of the nicest candidates out of the whole 16, but this is not supposed to be a popularity contest. As nice as he was, he was not able to cope with the task, he was a bad PM, and he was waffling about knowing all about cameras and photography - maybe he did know all about those things, but he didn't know much else. Bad team leader, probably a very good second in command (which he said himself).
Both Claire and Alex showed their true ugly colours last week and pretty much left Simon to hold the bag while they either argued with him or just sat on their bahookies. Should Simon have been fired, given he didn't handle the team properly the buck stopped at him. Should either Alex or Claire have gone, definitely as frankly they are not an asset to any team they work in. Out of the three, I think Alex should have been the one to go. He was called out by Margaret Monford on his lack of commitment to Simon from the start and pretty much did nothing in the task. While Claire argued and bitched, she at least did something; even if it was disruptive. |
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I watched this episode and was very disappointed with the calibre of everybody on both teams. They didn't have a clue as to running a business - and couldn't even operate a computer to the level of a 4 year old. I would have sacked the lot of them and got some people in with at least ½ a brain cell (between them).
And if anybody thinks that they can get a prime pitch in the Bluewater Shopping complex for free, they really need a reality check. I reckon both teams would have been out of pocket to the tune of £500 if rental costs were taken into account. What is worrying is that these folks will probably end up as marketing guys who will come round and recommend how you run your business and charge you a fortune for their 'advice'. |
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Maybe your memory isn't as reliable as you thought

It is worth going through the tunnel to be able to shop in peace