Which one out of the previous two winners deserved the 70k least? I personally think Kate, coz most people only voted for her through looks and the fact she's female

I think criag he only won it because of nasty nick thing and it was darren that exposed him not craig.

Cameron because none of the others had a rival cheated out with a double eviction.

Kate ......because she was utterly bland and won for being female.....Duh!

Even though I think Cameron is a fraud, he was amongst the more interesting/unusual hm's in this years bb.

why was that cheated if jon was such a big fav he would have beaten him no probs.

its not cameron fault that geekboy had less fans than him.

There a whole thread on the double eviction process that explains how it works, but I doubt you have the inteligence to understand it.

Cameron can't hold a candle to Kate. Many people may not like her, but she was entertaining along with Alex and co and the viewing and voting figures prove it. Kate also won without the biased and unfair editing Cameron got.

it was easy to understand the 2 people with the less votes left the house.

Kate without doubt.There was nothing remotely interesting or even appealing about her.Cameron is a far more intriguing character.

See you didn't understand it. Two people with the MOST votes left the house!

see you explained it in a few word you dont have to read a double thread of posts by geekboy sheep trying to twist it round to why jon is still more pop than cameron.

Don't really want to compare Cameron and Kate, two totally different people who won for different reasons, but I did like Davina's last comment last night.

'Will Cameron be presenting RI:SE next week........... Who cares'


Summed it up really.

Can not compere them. Out of the last 4 in BB3 Kate was the only one I had any time for at all. Really liked her in the house, not so keen since shes been out.

They edited everyone of the housemates.. saying it was unfair is just your opinion. C4 have to fit a whole day into 30 minutes!

Its Cameron that has the sheep fans......a whole flock ! Eejay posted a nice thread about them!

och nooo it was a heard of cows......well that's even worse!

I can't stand cameron, but I have to say that Kate was the most undeserving winner.

Because:


She won mainly by default because of the allegiances of Spencer and Alison fans.


(Unfortunately Kate has never shown any acknowedgement of this whatsoever, or indicated a nod in the direction of those fans, because she is so full of herself and arrogant).


On top of that, other reasons why she won:


Endemol decided they wanted a female winner that year.
BB's promotional campaign and whitewashing of her.
Because she was the most attractive girl.
Negative portrayals of her competition.

I have to say, a lot of the comments against Kate here seem to be coming from girls who envy her because of her success (and probably the fact she looks a hundred times better than them).

OK - Kate is quite a pretty woman... so what - I'm sure woman have voted for some of the male contestants for the simple matter they're a bit of a beefcake, so why shouldn't we vote for a bit of crumpet.

As for who deserved it least... Well, how many people would prefer Kate as a flatmate than Cameron - not on an asphetic level, for being a good fun person to live with. With regards to this, I think the level of voting last night compared to last year speaks volumes - very few people this year were open, Cameron probably was, Ray definatly was, and perhaps Steph and Anouska were as well. Otherwise this year the housemates were extremely self-concious and hence very dull.

At the end of the day, they both deserved to win their respective Big Brothers because they were the most popular housemates in their respective years. The only way it could be settled is say in 2010 there was a really big finalie for Big Brother with a 'Ultimate Big Brother: Winners Showdown' where you had all 10 or so big brother winners in there together.

Just my two cents...

That old wet impotent cliché always make me laugh, at the expense of the poster. It speaks volumes about the person who says it
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Kate was the most undeserving imo, after she won i thought like a lot of Anti cam fans are now that it must have been a fix and there couldn't possibly be people out there that liked her.
I still can't understand how a loud mouthed drunk won BB, but thats BB for you

The winners in order of merit (IMHO)

Brian
Kate
Craig
Cameron

That would be my order of merit too.

I loved Brian - very entertaining and imo a very warm and genuine person at the time (though I've since heard form insiders that he's become very arrogant and spoilt by his fame )

I was mostly fairly indifferent to Kate but she had her moments

Craig - i just can't understand the logic behind that one... he's a decent enough bloke though imo

Cameron - ditto above for Craig, aside from the decent enough bloke bit... The fact that he wouldn't reveal enough of himself except for the times he inadvertently did (which were edited out), makes me suspect a deeply repressed, intolerant, closed-minded and vindictive character lurks beneath the 'jolly, naive and sweet' personna built up between him and Channel 4.

cameron rarely entertained me, Kate did entertain me somewhat, so Cameron is less deserving for me

You're asking the wrong person because i loved BB3 and Kate...
But isn't BIG BROTHER all about personal choices, who we like and who we don't...

I liked Kate and thought she deseved to win
You don't
You liked Cameron and thought he deseved to win
I don't...

Personal choices...
Different strokes
Different folks

The real nightmare would of been if JUSTMEAN had won BB4....

I wasn't that keen on Kate last year....On the odd occasion I thought I liked her, then she let me down again,....at the end of the series I didn't like her at all.

But Kate Lawler is ten times better than Cameron....There, said it,..Kate can be likeable, (if I'm in a funny mood)

I really dislike Cameron,...there's only Justine I dislike more than that cowardly slime....I feel sorry for his future wife.
He'll respond to her pleas for love, by having the fear of God thrashed into her....

...(of course, I jest.)

She actually said "Will any of these people be presenting RISE next week?", not Cameron.