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Claire, a good leader or not?
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HOF3649
23-04-2008
From what ive seen I think she is a poor leader and tonight she was VERY lucky.

Credit to her for taking on board SAS's comments from the previous week. However, Im just not convinced shes got what it takes to be a good team leader.
Mykey38
23-04-2008
She took it onboard because she was team leader this week, next week will be the test of whether she has changed or not.

Very poor team leader from what we saw. No planning, no organization but got lucky........ suspiciously lucky. I mean th posh pub who do all there own food bought more ice cream than the chain of pubs bought from Lucindas team.
Yeah right
jabegy
24-04-2008
I was very disappointed that her team won this week, I felt sure the other team had, I really, really wanted her to go. That nice act she put on this week doesn't fool me, she's a cow.
Is she a good team leader, No !!! definitely not, because she doesn't play to her other team members strengths.
Vivid
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by HOF3649:
“From what ive seen I think she is a poor leader and tonight she was VERY lucky.

Credit to her for taking on board SAS's comments from the previous week. However, Im just not convinced shes got what it takes to be a good team leader.”

She was absolutely appalling.

As others have said she showed absolutely no project management skills whatsoever, she blindly launched into the task with no strategy, no forethought, no plan, no objectives, no task list, nothing of any note whatsoever, but then she is barely capable of organising an English sentence, so organising a team of people is well beyond her stunted intellect. Get rid of this stupid, offensive, chavvy, malicious, charmless, neuron-free creature.
funkycub
24-04-2008
I think she just wanted to keep her head down this week
*Laura*
24-04-2008
As the saying goes "it's better to be lucky than rich". When comparing the two management styles it was a one horse race, Lucinda was so professional and I'm sure that Margaret relayed back to SAS how good she was. It was doubly impressive when it's taken into consider how much the other girls in her team dislike her. I got a sense from the programme that SAS was sending out a message to the others to leave her alone. He made a point of praising her management skills and ideas, and letting Jennifer know that she's not as well liked as she thinks she is!
JTW
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by Mykey38:
“She took it onboard because she was team leader this week, next week will be the test of whether she has changed or not.

Very poor team leader from what we saw. No planning, no organization but got lucky........ suspiciously lucky. I mean th posh pub who do all there own food bought more ice cream than the chain of pubs bought from Lucindas team.
Yeah right”

Totally agree with you.

I haven't made my mind up yet as to whom I want to win this show....as the people I have chosen have ended up being a let down.

That said, I dislike the way that SA is shoving Claire down our throats to be given a second chance.....and also for her to be shown as an angel....and then also to be remarkably the winner on the night
vidalia
24-04-2008
Claire seems to think she is the next Ruth Badger but she just has no idea that she is a hectoring bully whereas the Badger just knew innately how to sell anything to anybody - she was assertive but not aggressive, she was a good leader and listened to people and she had a personality. Claire is an aggressive personality free zone with little chance of doing well in business and zero chance of a media career.

She may have kept her head down this week and got lucky but I'm happy to wait for karma.
ChristineCagney
24-04-2008
She was very lucky in that task last night. Very lucky indeed. I am not convinced by her at all.
PrincessNidor
24-04-2008
Claire did try to mend her ways.......but she had advanced notice that she would be the project leader and the spot light would be on her. Given this she was not a good project leader - and was very very lucky to win the task.
Glinny
24-04-2008
I thought she was absolutely dreadful as team leader.

Could not believe the way she just swanned around tasting cider when the others were working their socks of making the ice cream and did not see the urgency in getting the oranges and cider back to the production site.

I do think that her true colours will come out again as she was trying to be the good girl after her telling off from AS last week.

I agree with Carol Thatcher on the after show last night - a leopard never changes its spots! That is a very true saying.

She was just very, very lucky this week. She should have gone.
vidalia
24-04-2008
Why is it whenever I see Claire all I can picture is her wearing shiny orange a la Easyjet? It's not a good image to conjure up either.
Katenutzs
24-04-2008
Given that she was warned she would be project manager, I felt she preformed poorly, she was very disorganised and lackadaisyiscal. She was so lucky to have won the challenge as if she had lost she would have been out
Miss_Moo
24-04-2008
We will find out next week whether she has changed or not. Claire seems to hate authority and she might not be able to help herself next week when she is not PM.
CXC3000
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by funkycub:
“I think she just wanted to keep her head down this week”

I was going to say something but then changed my mind...
Esqualita
24-04-2008
She reminded me of a school bully who's been threatened with expulsion so starts becoming smarmy and overly palsy-walsy with her ex-victims. Her leadership was non-existant, and frankly, it was either a lucky break or a fix that her team won.
Sloopy
24-04-2008
At one point they seemed to be in a state of disarray - hardly any appointments booked, nobody present at the taste-testing, etc.

They were fortunate to pull it together at the final hour and win by such a margin.
Vivid
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“She reminded me of a school bully who's been threatened with expulsion so starts becoming smarmy and overly palsy-walsy with her ex-victims. Her leadership was non-existant, and frankly, it was either a lucky break or a fix that her team won.”

I agree.

Her new less noisy, less offensive, less chavvy and vaguely collaborative leadership style was a temporary response to Sugar's reprimand, but all the signs of self-indulgence, self-importance and ineptness were all still highly visible as she excused herself to the production part of the team about her lateness and the lack of supplies and utterly failed to organise some sort of strategy for the task.

The lucky break at the end of the task was thoroughly undeserved and surely her luck must turn back now? She has been one of the luckiest contenders of any series. She is utterly loathsome and she can't be much longer on the tv. Pleeeeease!
isopap
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by Glinny:
“I thought she was absolutely dreadful as team leader.

Could not believe the way she just swanned around tasting cider when the others were working their socks of making the ice cream and did not see the urgency in getting the oranges and cider back to the production site.

I do think that her true colours will come out again as she was trying to be the good girl after her telling off from AS last week.

I agree with Carol Thatcher on the after show last night - a leopard never changes its spots! That is a very true saying.

She was just very, very lucky this week. She should have gone.”

Totally agree, if that team had lost she'd definitely have been a goner, her management was appalling. She wasn't at all organised.
Aleksis
24-04-2008
Who cares? Ultimately she's shown so far that she can't be managed, and she can only function (vaguely) effectively when she's put in charge of other people. As soon as someone is telling her what to do or organising her she challenges them at every opportunity, often when it's unreasonable and disruptive to do so.

Lucinda is similarly rather useless when she's not a team leader, but it isn't deliberate and she does try and pull her weight. She's a team player as well as a leader, Claire is only the latter. And she hasn't really wowed me with her ability to do that, anyway.
lucy-lawless
24-04-2008
Likes to be top dog and gets in a strop when she cant be. Doesn't really fit with being an apprentice does it?
Really doesnt have the arms for sleeveless tops either
NathalieR
24-04-2008
She is a good leader as she has proved it in two tasks now but can't handle someone else being in control. Am interested to see next week when she is not team leader to see if she really has changed.
whackyracer
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by lucy-lawless:
“Likes to be top dog and gets in a strop when she cant be. Doesn't really fit with being an apprentice does it?
Really doesnt have the arms for sleeveless tops either ”

Lol, she can't really get away with most of what she wears, but that's the least of her problems!

I esp loved the pub task when she told the PM that the Bollywood task wouldn't work cos curry was a 'niche' market. Since when? hasn't it been voted UK's most pop food for about the last 5 yrs???
Sid_1979
24-04-2008
The producers are trying too hard to prtray Claire as someone who has gone on a journey. She hasn't changed a bit in my eyes. She merely got lucky with the last-minute deal.
Vivid
24-04-2008
Originally Posted by NathalieR:
“She is a good leader as she has proved it in two tasks now but can't handle someone else being in control. Am interested to see next week when she is not team leader to see if she really has changed.”

What rubbish.

She demonstrated beyond any doubt whatsoever she is an incompetent moron without any redeeming qualities. She has no grasp of managing a project, strategic thinking, in fact of any thinking whatsoever, the only thing that concerns her is status, if she doesn't have it she undermines those who do, and she revels in it and indulges herself in it if she fortuitously has it. She has no respect for others, she has is very stupid and spiteful and has the sophistication of a pig sty. She is nothing but a small-minded ( in every respect ) chav.

You seem to equate her success in winning the task with her competence, to any vaguely perceptive observer she was obviously very very lucky and the team won despite her self-indulgences and appallingly inept leadership.
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