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Are PMs allowed to sack candidates???
Esqualita
25-04-2008
I was wondering if project managers are allowed to effectively "sack" candidates on their team whom they consider to be ineffectual or destructive. I know for a fact I'd rather have 3 or 4 good players than 5 or 6 , in which 2 are bad apples.
Zeb Atlas
25-04-2008
Doubt it - point about it is team management skills and in most companies you can't sack people on a whim (unless you're Sir Alan I suppose )
Esqualita
25-04-2008
Originally Posted by Zeb Atlas:
“Doubt it - point about it is team management skills and in most companies you can't sack people on a whim (unless you're Sir Alan I suppose )”

Yeah-but in most companies you aren't managing fellow managers after the same post as you...
frost
25-04-2008
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“I was wondering if project managers are allowed to effectively "sack" candidates on their team whom they consider to be ineffectual or destructive. I know for a fact I'd rather have 3 or 4 good players than 5 or 6 , in which 2 are bad apples.”

I think as team leader you have the power to "sack" someone in the sense that you can send someone back to the house for the rest of the task you are in charge of, if you feel that is the right decision. And so long as you can justify at the end why you did it and why it was the right decision, it shouldnt put you in a bad light.
Ignazio
25-04-2008
I seem to recall a PM threatening one of the guys with the sack in an earlier series - and he replied, 'You can't sack me.'

I assume though that the PM could send someone back to the house or if they refused, relieve them of all duties; imagine the chaos if the dismissed insisted on hanging around.

Now that would make good tv.
Vivid
25-04-2008
I have wondered this on several occasions as I would have sacked Sayed from a previous series and Claire as well as a few others.
Kolakube
25-04-2008
It happened in The Celebrity Apprentice in the US - but it was far from effective.
agent_c
25-04-2008
Originally Posted by Kolakube:
“It happened in The Celebrity Apprentice in the US - but it was far from effective.”

yes, Piers (former News of the world Editor) sacked Omarossa (if you've seen apprentice USA series 1, then you'll understand why), but she hung around, undermining piers, and slandering his family. Unfortunately the team won, so Omaross survived the week... I think its the only time Piers cursed his rich friends for helping him.
Aleksis
25-04-2008
Simon probably should have sacked Claire, but it's too dangerous. You saw the way she goaded him on and then spat the word "autocratic" in his face when he got frustrated. Too risky - they'd just turn it on you in the boardroom (which I consider to be the major flaw of this show - bullsh*tting skill being valued above business skill).
lumpbottom
25-04-2008
Originally Posted by Zeb Atlas:
“Doubt it - point about it is team management skills and in most companies you can't sack people on a whim (unless you're Sir Alan I suppose )”

Jennifer would have been sacked if she'd screwed an employer the way she screwed the farm.
Lucinda didn't know about it until the damage was done and the task was almost over, so there wouldn't have been any point in sending her back to the house.
bigbro24
26-04-2008
I don't think the producers would allow it as a general course of action. There would be sackings every week if it was allowed. I would only expect it to be happen as a one off.

They'd rather have more footage of clashing team members and PM.
Katenutzs
30-04-2008
Originally Posted by Aleksis:
“Simon probably should have sacked Claire, but it's too dangerous. You saw the way she goaded him on and then spat the word "autocratic" in his face when he got frustrated. Too risky - they'd just turn it on you in the boardroom (which I consider to be the major flaw of this show - bullsh*tting skill being valued above business skill).”

It is the real flaw in the show ... he who shouts loudest in the boardroom wins.

I think if they fired someone on a task then it would say that their managerial skills were not up to the task. The idea of the show is to see how people manage different people and get the best out of them ...
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