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Well if they do........they are not doing themselves any favours starting off forum rage.....

Human behavour.........amazing.........

Some people just love being critical and arguing. It will always happen on these sites.


A certain amount of criticism and disagreement is necessary as otherwise the sites would get boring.

It does go to far sometimes though I agree

However I equally dislike the posts that complain about anyone criticising the contestants at all. That just kills debate

I love debate and discussion, but somethings the comments are just....way out there.

I utter the second and third words of the thread title everytime Jodie comes on the screen.

Singing wise, she is no better than an average cruise ship singer, and hopefully this week she will seriously get found out over her acting skills.

I cant stand her. Every facial movement from her audition to the live shows has been hideously exagerated, every wide-eyed look or nod to the judges after the screeching exhibition (which some may call singing) is done for effect and is pathetically false, and sadly people are falling for this week after week. I've seen through it - why hasn't anyone else?
Problem is, she has the Blackpool and Weight Watchers block vote behind her. Depressing.

Obviously you can vote for whoever you like for whatever reason you like and these kinds of competitions tend not to be much more than popularity contests anyway.

However, from this post, I don't see any evidence that you're actually referring to Jodie's performances. Have you seen her version of Send in the Clowns? Tell me, where are the 'hideously exagerated' 'wide eyed looks' here? In what sense was that performance 'pathetically false' and in what way is her singing a 'screeching exhibition'? Seriously. I'd like to know.

I know what two words I'd like to say to you! LOL!

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Maybe because no one agrees with you thats why?

Not as heated in here as it gets in SCD, if you don't happen to agree with the fanatics some give you a very hard time, and some do their best to get you banned . They dont scare me I wear my flak jacket at all times .

people who that that emotionally involved with words on a screen...........need serious help........If you ask me.

Send in the clowns was a rather apt song for her to sing. The clue was in the title...

It's not so much the performance that rattles me (although I noticed something that Denise picked up on the 'dahhaaa' inflections at the end of random song sentences quite early on) it's what she does afterwards and the way she presents herself the really gets me.

The other girls, like Rachel, Sam or Sarah stand there, and without drama listen to the shouting chorus of approval from the panel, smiling occasionally and softly thanking them. No drama, just taking everything on board with the mimimum of fuss.

Jodie on the other hand, stands there wide eyed, almost repeating out loud what Barrowman says to her, feverishly thanking them for every minor complement, waving her arms around her face and neck as though someone has nicked her fan in mid-perfomance.
The constant mugging to the audience, over acting (which it is - the other girls don't do it, so why should she?) and attention grabbing is toe-curling in the extreme.

And don't get me started on the running down the steps after she has been saved for another week looking to the judges and breathlessly saying "thank you, thank you, thank you" as she did so last week. Err - not them that saved you, love - Thank those that phoned in from home, so you can keep this act going for another week.

But, as you say - it all down to personal taste and opinion. That's what a good debate is all about, eh?

My...thats sad

Ooh, you're going to get such a kicking from Jodie fans!

Seriously, we ARE all entitled to our own opinions. I just wish those opinions were based on the performance, not the character of the performer.

I can understand that Jodie's personality might grate on some people. I like it, but that's irrelevant. It's what she does onstage that matters, surely?

I don't think I have ever heard 'Send in the clowns' done better than that. For me, that's enough.

Oh, and I think the DVO comment came when Jodie was complimented for NOT singing DAHAA on 'Send in the clowns', in other words, she can take direction and learn. *nods in approval*

Well thanks for proving my point . The only thing you can find to say with reference to her performances is something Denise commented on and which is not at all in evidence in the particular song I was talking about. Your dislike seems to be based on how she receives criticism, how she reacts to the panel, how she copes with nerves, everything, in fact, other than how she performs.

However, when ALW undertook this method of casting, he should have been aware that it could turn into a glorified popularity contest. If you don't vote for Jodie because you don't like the way she walks down the steps, well, you're perfectly entitled to do that. It might not be the best way of choosing a Nancy, but that's Andrew and Cameron's problem, not ours.

Well we better not talk about the gracefulness or lack of it by the others eh......my my

I think one of the reason Jodie grates on some peoples nerves (and I admit we're in the minority) is the whole thing seems to be set up to present her as a bit of an innocent abroad, as you say the 'undiscovered talent', down-to-earth, wide-eyed, etc.. when in fact she has been on television before, has worked at least semi-professionally as a singer, and from what i've read in the press, is a reasonably accomplished business woman. I guess some people sense a disjunction in the way Jodie presents herself and the 'real' her (whatever that is). Of course none of this matters. She does have a strong voice and is certainly no worse, and probably a lot better than some of the other contestants, but nevertheless, for some people she still doesn't feel quite right. As I said I admit this is a minority opinion. By the way, if Jodie fans think she is getting some flak, spare a thought for poor Sam, who has had a real hard time in a couple of the other threads.

I think this goes for all the girls, they wont please everyone all of the time and there will be some down right dislike - for no other reason than that. Getting personal about someone is just not acceptable. I like Jodie's bubbly ways it makes me smile.....its much easier to be a tearful misery than to keep your spirits up. I think she has a lot to be happy about, why people think being happy is something to be negative about blows me away.......I think its more to do with them than her.. i mean there is no one more OTT then Graham Norton......

more happiness is what I say..............

I find that with some - if you dare say you don't rate a contestant you are practically banned from posting - one of my posts was actually deleted and all I said was that the contestant was irritating! No bad language or nasty insults - just my opinion - and I wasn't drunk at all! - I find you can discuss more on the ALW shows sites. I know what you mean though - if I have had a glass of wine I often feel that way - but I try not to post then!!!!

I dont like Jodie, too OTT for me, but I wont go in decline should she win.

In vino veritas
A drunken mind speaks a sober heart
or
Drunken words are sober thoughts

Pour us another. (hic)

well I am at one with the world right now (hic) so best just say 'I love you all!

I'm going to have to take you up on this offer and have a lil' rant. We're here to judge their vocals and acting and although I don't like it it's within their rights to comment on the negatives as well as the positives. But when it comes to appearance it gets right up my goat.

I find that really sad that someone can critic someone (Sam) a teenager so harshly and cruelly. It really peeves me off that someone is that deluded.


Anyway rant over and on with tonights show

Bet you feel better now.

It's a lot easy to insult someone who you can't see.

That's why so much debate on DS is very "frank".

You're so right - but I've seen comments from a couple of posters who have been really embarrassed and taken aback from some of the derision hurled their way. Some even stopped posting for a while. Some of those responsible don't realise they have had this effect on someone and apologise - I've seen others say, "if you're so sensitive, perhaps you shouldn't be posting," as if they're the only ones entitled to free speech - doesn't seem to occur to them that others have a right to an opinion too.

Takes all sorts............

Having said that, if you did make a bold statement like "X is fantastic" or "Y is c**p", then you had better be ready to defend it.