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The look of the US V UK BB houses
I had seen the BB USA house on TV when i was in the States
in 2001, I'd forgotten how small and downmarket it looked compared to the BB UK house... I thought being the States, it would be so far ahead and flash and classy compared to the BB UK house, but we are far ahead in style to there's... indeed the BB Africa house is too! I remember back in 2001, on eviction the HM's goes thru the front door of the house and walks about 10 feet and there's the American Davina waiting for the HM... no cheering or booing crowds.... is that still the same? I was watching last night and they were sitting by the back door (couldn't make out what they were saying mind you, more of that in another post) of what looked like someone's back yard... I mentioned this today to a friend of mine from the States and he told me they've used the same house for the last four years... I can see partly there idea may be doing what they've done in design for the BB1 UK house, giving it that cramped look, so the HM's get cabin fever.... But given the choice of being in the BB USA house or the BB UK house i'd go for the UK house, well to be exact the BB3 UK house... My friend in the States said that BB there is losing viewers and is on the "old people's" channel CBS, well all i can say there Davina looked wooden. I thought the BB USA would be a hip MTV type house... Not so... BB UK may in my opinion have the look.... Shame they didn't have the HM's which the BB USA seems to have... |
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I think the presenter of BBUS is absolutely hopeless. At least Davina showed her personality. And does anyone else think her head is too big for her body?
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Originally posted by emma555 She reminds me of the puppets in "Thunderbirds"I think the presenter of BBUS is absolutely hopeless. At least Davina showed her personality. And does anyone else think her head is too big for her body?
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The BB:USA reminds me of the BB:Africa house. Very similar layout.
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http://www.cbs.com/primetime/bigbrot...ay/index.shtml
If you look at the overview of the house you can see it has been well thought out. The camera runs behind the mirrors allow them to sweep through large areas of the house allowing for excellent coverage as you can see in the HL eps and net feeds despite E4's sometimes suspect coverage . It feels much more intimate like you are in the room with them especially the HoH room. Our own is often left on CCTV cam because of lazy production values. I hate it when they have someone filiming an aread of the house all the way across the room on zoom, and even then all you can see is their head. There are a lot more features to keep them occupied as opposed to reading books which makes for very boring viewing. The walls are much, much taller than ours adding to the whole cut off from the outside world theme. They also have no idea how they are being perceived by the viewers ( i would normally have said public but im sure you could walk into town and 80% of people would not recognise them) and why should the houseguests be bothered what they think anyway. |
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The same US BB house has been used for all four series with only minor remodelling and annual redecorating done. The US house is the only BB house that has been used at least three times without being totally remodelled.
The bedroom on the opposite side of the house from the bathroom was enlarged and split into two bedrooms for the 2001 series. The HoH room was added in 2001. This year a bathtub was added. One major change that should be made is to incorporate more hidden cameras inside the house as was done in Australia. The HGs are made much more aware of the cameras due to noisy camera movement. The US house cameras may be the same ones installed for the first series--they are at least the same style of camera. |
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well there only one davina might help if she nad some lessons , mind you the usa big brother sounds a nard one would not like to mess with that one lol
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Thanks guys for the research on the BB USA house, it's hard to imagine that it's the same house from 2000... with just a make over here and there.
As I said style wise my favourite house would be the BB3 UK house, I could almost see myself living in that house... I agree that the camera work is better in the BB USA house than the BB UK house and has more clever camera angle's and close up's, sadly the same can't be said for the sound at times!!! If you compare the BB USA and the BB Australia houses there really is a vast difference. What i've seen of the BB Australia house, it looks like a 4Star hotel compared to the BB USA house which would be a "Best Western" circa 1988... in other words cheap looking.. Looks like Linda Barker had a hand in designing it... Does anybody know if the BB Africa & Australia houses have evictions based on the BB UK model? I know that the original BB from Holland does have the public eviction as does the Spanish and I think German BB's???... While I can see the US producers point on isolation, the evictions are really boring in comparison (at least for me) one minute the HM is in the BB house, (or HG in the States) then they open the door cross the bridge and 30 seconds later they are talking to the woodentop US Davina, no crowds no reaction... that's what i saw when i was in the States in 2001, has it changed??? Yes BB is about isolation and control, but also a element of showbiz... About 2 years ago C4 had a programme called "The world of Big Brother" (I think that's the title) I have it on video somewhere, must look it up... |
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Originally posted by alison z Over in US - BB is not a showbiz/talent show. It's a game show. If your evicted you're a loser - America has no interest in losers.but also a element of showbiz... Thats the major difference and the major reason why UK BB now sucks and will suck unless they do something innovative with the format. The UK media/hype machine has forever corrupted the endemol BB format for the UK (dunno about other countrys) |
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Originally posted by Typhoid-X Yeah can see the US point on losers..Over in US - BB is not a showbiz/talent show. It's a game show. If your evicted you're a loser - America has no interest in losers. Thats the major difference and the major reason why UK BB now sucks and will suck unless they do something innovative with the format. The UK media/hype machine has forever corrupted the endemol BB format for the UK (dunno about other countrys) Had a look at that C4 programme and it seems all the countries they featured, UK, Spain, Germany, Holland, Italy all have the walk of shame... Anybody known about BB Australia?... I think that the US producers of BB might want to think about the game show./showbiz element, that's if they get to BB5, there ratings are apparently faling... |
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There was just no atmosphere about the evictions at all. They were just told to leave, and they said "byebye" and walked out of the door, straight into the studio (no crowds or anything) for an eviction interview that lasted about 4 minutes.
The presenter was awful - clearly a very poor choice for presenting such a program. She didn't have anything interesting to ask, and spoke in a very slow tone as if to make sure we didn't miss anything. The biggest clanger was the end theme tune. It was totally standard and boring and belonged to some tacky 1980s Knott's Landing spin-off. In terms of presentation and design the UK has it right. Every house has been completely different and wacky in its design, the evictions are set-up masterfully to make for exciting TV viewing (although the Bow site was better) and theme tune is suitable. |
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I loved the BB UK Bow site!!!
Well to be exact the bridge and the way they walked into the studio... The music on BB US seems to be stuck in the 1980's... BB UK for all it's faults with house mates is at least somewhere in productiuon values in the early 21st century.... no wonder CBS gets a "old" audience.... |
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The theme music is like something out of the Sims!
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The low key exit reflects what life is like for them after BB. Nothing really changes for them unless they go really far and are on tv all summer and obviously for the one who wins the money.
Thats how i like it, no wannabees in the house. It is all abuot playing the game. You should know now that its all about the HoH competition after the eviction. That is where the drama is. |
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Oh and i prefer the way they kill the lights at night.
It makes it feel more like a real house than a studio that is always lighted 24/7. |
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Originally posted by alison z Aussie BB evictions are done exactly like ours with the public voting. The evictions shows are great and the evicted HM has 20 seconds to say their goodbyes after being told they are leaving. They are then driven in the eviction van to the outdoor stage. The shows are more geared up to family audiences - since the house is inside a theme park and lots turn up in fancy dress, where the best ones are put forward to the end of series competition to win a plasma screen tv.Yeah can see the US point on losers.. Had a look at that C4 programme and it seems all the countries they featured, UK, Spain, Germany, Holland, Italy all have the walk of shame... Anybody known about BB Australia?... I think of all the different BB's I have watched, I'd have to say the Aussie one is my favourite overall.
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Originally posted by Mirage Lol, i bet Latvia's BB is even better than ours. I've never watched Aussie BB (too many BB's for me) but i like their policy on showing off the girls. I remember awtching bits of the first season and the cameraman was panning up and down this girls body while she was showering, he even zoomed in on her bush! I think of all the different BB's I have watched, I'd have to say the Aussie one is my favourite overall.
For me though nothing will ever top BB2 USA, not even any of my other fav reality tv shows like Survivor or The Amazing Race. |
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Originally posted by Coljj Will Kirby: "Half Man, Half Amazing!"For me though nothing will ever top BB2 USA, But yeah, I'm glad to see us BB viewers in the States aren't the only ones to hate Julie Chen. By way of comparison, I'm sure that the US version of Coupling (Thursday nights this fall on NBC) will NOT be talking about the quality of Julie Chen's ass, the way the UK version praised Davina's arse. The music is awful and the evictions seem geared to conceal the fact that only hardcore fans of the show care at all about it. It's not water-cooler talk, the way Survivor or the Bachelor is (not that I've ever watched the latter). It blew my mind to watch BBUK and hear the Paul Oakenfold theme song and see Dermot and Davina and the excited crowds. Even when the US had crowds, it was like 75 people, most of whom knew the hamsters. But in my book, bad Big Brother beats most other reality shows at their best. |
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Originally posted by hwirtz It is quite an exciting thing to watch a BBUK eviction. Both Jon and Lisa this year had evictions at the two extremes - crowd adoration and crowd hostility, if you ever get the chance you must see them. It blew my mind to watch BBUK and hear the Paul Oakenfold theme song and see Dermot and Davina and the excited crowds. BB2 was the best over here, purely because it was set in a brilliant location which managed to be secluded whilst being bang in the middle of London. Having it in a studio complex does alter the effect slightly. |
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Originally posted by hwirtz Wow Gooood evening Spokane, WA, USAThe music is awful and the evictions seem geared to conceal the fact that only hardcore fans of the show care at all about it. It's not water-cooler talk, the way Survivor or the Bachelor is (not that I've ever watched the latter). It blew my mind to watch BBUK and hear the Paul Oakenfold theme song and see Dermot and Davina and the excited crowds. Even when the US had crowds, it was like 75 people, most of whom knew the hamsters. But in my book, bad Big Brother beats most other reality shows at their best. Hi hwirtz Kewl to have to you onboard! I agree with you on the BB UK theme by Paul Oakenfold It really does make it for me and give BB UK its feel... Regardless of it's sometimes crap UK HM's ...I think that aside from the HG's, BB USA lacks that personality for me and it needs someone like Dermot and a BBLB show, for me the US presenter and the show itself takes its self a little bit too seriously... The BB USA theme could be from any 1980's Cop show. Before I saw the BB1? USA 2001 season I thought it would have been like MTV's "Real World", but from what I’ve seen it's far from that... Ironic that the BB USA house is full of 20 something’s and yet the presentation seems geared to 40 something’s... Ok they may want to gear the eviction to be "low key" but heck this is meant to be entertainment, not a "O.U" (Open University) programme, i just felt such a anti-climax with the BB USA evictions... I think in the UK we forget how many different reality shows there is on at the moment on the US TV Networks & Cable! hwirtz do you know if in the States there's a TV channel where you can see the live feed from the BB USA house 24/7? or how BB USA is doing in the ratings? Coljj I loved the "Amazing Race" too!, but i only saw season one... it seems that BB Australia really knows what BB is all about lol Mirage Mirage thanks for the info on BB Australia evictions.. sounds great wish we could see them!!! Quote:
Originally posted by stupidityno1 I couldn't agree more!!It is quite an exciting thing to watch a BBUK eviction. Both Jon and Lisa this year had evictions at the two extremes - crowd adoration and crowd hostility, if you ever get the chance you must see them. BB2 was the best over here, purely because it was set in a brilliant location which managed to be secluded whilst being bang in the middle of London. Having it in a studio complex does alter the effect slightly. From BBUK 1-3 i used to really look forward to the Friday night evictions!!!, i loved the BB UK 1/2 evictions from Bow in East London (now a up market housing complex apparently ). I remember on the BB" final night, Davina saying to Brian on the bridge just after he won, when they looked up at the fireworks and said "It's all for you Brian, you're a winner"... Hopefully if the BB UK House is moving, they'll find a really unique location!!! |
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It's good to be actually chatting about BB and not Cameron all the time...
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[quote]Originally posted by alison z
Wow Gooood evening Spokane, WA, USA Hi hwirtz Kewl to have to you onboard! Thanks Alison! And Good Evening? It was 9:30 in the morning when you posted. I think that aside from the HG's, BB USA lacks that personality for me and it needs someone like Dermot and a BBLB show, for me the US presenter and the show itself takes its self a little bit too seriously... Couldn't agree more. CBS seems too scared to turn up the hype on BB because the first season was a bit of a flop. The ratings have improved every year though. The thing about US TV, though, is that there wouldn't be any time slot for them to show anything like BBLB. The local afiliates wouldn't give up their "tea-time" slots that they make most of their money off of, with Oprah and That '70s Show reruns. The next alternative would be to show it on another channel owned by Viacom. UPN might be a possibility, but about half the country doesn't have a dedicated UPN affiliate, and UPN programming (which is pretty much just Star Trek & WWE Wrestling) usually gets broadcast on weekends on a WB or FOX station. That leaves cable, so could MTV or VH1 be talked into giving up time for something like BBLB? I'm not sure. Damn, it'd be cool, though. The BB USA theme could be from any 1980's Cop show. Specifically, Hill Street Blues. Ironic that the BB USA house is full of 20 something’s and yet the presentation seems geared to 40 something’s... That's because for the last 10 years, CBS's biggest show was "Touched By An Angel." You'd think with 4 hours of CSI and JAG and their spinoffs, they'd allow themselves to be hipper. hwirtz do you know if in the States there's a TV channel where you can see the live feed from the BB USA house 24/7? or how BB USA is doing in the ratings? Live feeds are only available over the internet. Go to http://www.CBS.com/primetime/bigbrother4 to sign up. As for ratings, The Tuesday (your Wednesday) show won its timeslot. Wednesday and Friday (your Thu/Sat) it came in second, behind Law & Order and America's Funniest Home Videos, respectively. The Wednesday eviction show was the most-watched, coming in 13th on the week. The other 2 did not make the top 20. That translates to about 9 million viewers. Hope that's the info you're looking for! -Hank |
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Would nine million viewers be considered a success?
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The BBUK house is (reportedly) moving to a secluded location near Epsom. The article I read also stated that they wanted to recreate the walk of shame/fame they had at the Bow site.
As for the 9 million viewers - depends which version you mean. In the US I sincerely doubt that 9 million is anything eye-raising considering the massive population. But in Britain it is a respectable sum. |
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What did the BBUK final get this year?
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