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The Apprentice Series 4 Official Spoiler thread
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apprentice_fan
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“We are drifting between spoliers and speculation here.

The expectation seems to be Michael, Raef and Claire will be the next 3 to be fired before the interview stage although the order is uncertain.”

Only two are fired before the interviews. 5 candidates make it to the interview stage.
pogogal18
16-05-2008
raef will get to interview stage - beyond that i really do not know

think of the car task helene,raef and claire or michael will be one team(depends on who out of claire or michael is fired next week)

other team is alex lucinder lee

these groups only apply if they are not reshuffled again

if the helene team lost and it was between raef and claire in the boardroom then claire would go and if between raef and michael michael would go
if it was between claire and helene claire would go again

so claire and michael do not stand a chance in finale if their on the losing team next week and the week after and are brought back into board room too
these two have had more chances than anyone in the boardroom

if lees team lose on the car task i see lee/lucinder being fired- alex will have won as pm previous week so wont be fired
apprentice_fan
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“Teams :

Alpha :
Alex : PM
Lucinda
Lee

Renaissance :
Raef : PM
Helene
Micheal
Claire

Renaissance lose and Raef brings back Micheal and Claire.

Apparently Micheal says that everything good comes from him and Raef compares him to a rat trying to jump off a sinking ship!

SAS says Raef presents himself as Mr perfect and mr Elegance but that he is lucky to have only been in the boardroom once.

They can't work out who's fired but they say Raef is in the middle , Micheal on the left and Claire on the right. So if anyone rewatches next week's preview then you might be able to work it out.

Personally I can't see anyone other than Micheal being fired out of those three.”

Did your source say anything about Raef's performance as a PM? It looks from the previews that he was with Michael directing the TV ad. Surely not including the product in the ad was Raef's fault as well as Michael's. This mistake was repeated in the advertising task for the last 3 series. I really don't understand how they made that mistake again?!!
Sidespin Nid
16-05-2008
No they didn't , although I'm guessing he overestimates the presentation since he thinks they'll definetely win.
apprentice_fan
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“No they didn't , although I'm guessing he overestimates the presentation since he thinks they'll definetely win.”

You're probably right. Thanks
saj2
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“Teams :

Alpha :
Alex : PM
Lucinda
Lee

Renaissance :
Raef : PM
Helene
Micheal
Claire

Renaissance lose and Raef brings back Micheal and Claire.

Apparently Micheal says that everything good comes from him and Raef compares him to a rat trying to jump off a sinking ship!

SAS says Raef presents himself as Mr perfect and mr Elegance but that he is lucky to have only been in the boardroom once.

They can't work out who's fired but they say Raef is in the middle , Micheal on the left and Claire on the right. So if anyone rewatches next week's preview then you might be able to work it out.

Personally I can't see anyone other than Micheal being fired out of those three.”

I watched the preview and I can't work out whether Sir Alan is pointing to the left or to the middle but I think its the left. If he fires Raef and keeps Michael in again, I will seriously be annoyed
Muttley76
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by saj2:
“I watched the preview and I can't work out whether Sir Alan is pointing to the left or to the middle but I think its the left. If he fires Raef and keeps Michael in again, I will seriously be annoyed”

If that happened this board would go into melt down...

But I think your right, it looks like he is pointing to his left to me also....
saj2
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“If that happened this board would go into melt down...

But I think your right, it looks like he is pointing to his left to me also....”

I can't see him giving Michael another chance

Helene must have done some work this week to escape the boardroom.
*Laura*
16-05-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“If that happened this board would go into melt down...

But I think your right, it looks like he is pointing to his left to me also....”

To keep Michael over Raef would be the end for me. The only way I could accept Michael staying over Raef is if Raef "falls on his sword" and even then I would still be absolutely furious.

Mind you it would mean Raef would have the whole 30 mins on YF.
pogogal18
17-05-2008
haha that would be catastrophic

the boards would be furious and the media may get mad too
Sidespin Nid
17-05-2008
I think he could fire Raef in a double firing alongside Micheal since Micheal would be fired anyway if he lost.
Muttley76
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“I think he could fire Raef in a double firing alongside Micheal since Micheal would be fired anyway if he lost. ”

I don't think we'll lose another two people at this stage, I'd be very surprised anyway.
MarclovesBB
17-05-2008
Can someone just rectify something for me... who is seen in the car task?
Muttley76
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by MarclovesBB:
“Can someone just rectify something for me... who is seen in the car task?”

It does seem to have gotten a bit confused, actually, so I went back to the earliest posts on the subject here:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...6&postcount=98

Quote:
“Oh...so if the car task is in Week 10 then Micheal,Lucinda,Lee,Alex and Raef are all in the top 6.”

...which actually seems to suggest Claire or Helene is fired this week?
Sidespin Nid
17-05-2008
Only Lucinda,Lee and Alex have been seen in the car task. Micheal and Raef have been seen in that preview where Raef is mimicking a car so it's just preseumed they make the top 6.
MarclovesBB
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“It does seem to have gotten a bit confused, actually, so I went back to the earliest posts on the subject here:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...6&postcount=98



...which actually seems to suggest Claire is fired this week?”

Ok so if thats true then I have a feeling Claire will lose out I really like Claire and want her to go further or even win!
Helene should be fired, she messed up big time last week (wedding dresses) and I like Lucinda a lot so, for that reason as well, she should go
Muttley76
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“Only Lucinda,Lee and Alex have been seen in the car task. Micheal and Raef have been seen in that preview where Raef is mimicking a car so it's just preseumed they make the top 6.”

I guess I'd say it's strong supporting evidence though?
MarclovesBB
17-05-2008
what is the car task exactly? lol, do they have to sell the actual cars??? if so I'm presuming that they are old and used ones and not brand new??
Muttley76
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by MarclovesBB:
“what is the car task exactly? lol, do they have to sell the actual cars??? if so I'm presuming that they are old and used ones and not brand new??”

I think it's a car rental service....
MarclovesBB
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I think it's a car rental service....”



aaah much more sense lol
Sidespin Nid
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I guess I'd say it's strong supporting evidence though?”



Yeah I'd say so , which is why i think Claire will go this week.
apprentice_fan
17-05-2008
Someone in the internet forum pointed out that the clip of Michael and Raef is from the advertising episode and I think he is right.

Compare the shirts Raef and Michael are wearing in the preview of the advertising task.

with their shirts in the clip at 1:12.

I think they are the same. I am hoping that Michael is the one to be fired next week.
MarclovesBB
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“Someone in the internet forum pointed out that the clip of Michael and Raef is from the advertising episode and I think he is right.

Compare the shirts Raef and Michael are wearing in the preview of the advertising task.

with their shirts in the clip at 1:12.

I think they are the same. I am hoping that Michael is the one to be fired next week.”



your right actually! and the piece of paper that they are looking at looks to be someones CV, a certain actress/actor for their commercial maybe???
MarclovesBB
17-05-2008
There was something else that I was wondering.... the apprentice candidates are doing tasks every week, but these tasks are only 1/2 days long! what do they do for the other 5 days of the week????
Muttley76
17-05-2008
Originally Posted by MarclovesBB:
“There was something else that I was wondering.... the apprentice candidates are doing tasks every week, but these tasks are only 1/2 days long! what do they do for the other 5 days of the week????”

They film more than one episode a week...I'm not sure of the exact schedule but I think it's something like two per week?
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