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Why did they get rid of that bitchy judge?
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Saturn
03-05-2008
This lot are way too nice.

She'd never have let Rachel get away with that screech

All we hear is sensational... fantastic... world class. Who are they trying to convince?? It's like they're watching something else!
katiemack
03-05-2008
I know get her off loose women and back on the panel!!!
cazzbar
03-05-2008
They need a judge like Craig Revel Horwood from SCD - he always gives an honest opinion.

This panel is so bland it makes my toes curl.
jill1812
03-05-2008
Originally Posted by cazzbar:
“They need a judge like Craig Revel Horwood from SCD - he always gives an honest opinion.
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Isn't he also a vocal coach as well? He would be great on a show like this!
LaLaLaur
03-05-2008
I wonder who Zoe's favourite would be? I reckon she's like Sarah and Naihm... because of their vocals. But I've not been reading her column in The Stage. Anyone know who she's backing?

I do think this show is lacking Zoe's presense though.
CASPER1066
03-05-2008
THE STAGE will slaughter this performance............
GODDESS
03-05-2008
Barry is way to 'pervy'. I think he's more interested in what the girls are wearing.
Simi89
03-05-2008
to me none of them are world class.. yet.
ToySoldier
03-05-2008
Zoe wasn't bitchy, she just didn't fuss about telling lies and telling people their performances were great when they weren't. If some people can't hold it together for 2 minutes on a Saturday night, how are they supposed to do 8 shows a week? Zoe told it straight, and that's what IDA lacks.
twingle
03-05-2008
Originally Posted by ToySoldier:
“Zoe wasn't bitchy, she just didn't fuss about telling lies and telling people their performances were great when they weren't. If some people can't hold it together for 2 minutes on a Saturday night, how are they supposed to do 8 shows a week? Zoe told it straight, and that's what IDA lacks.”

Yes but Zoe was only biased towards good singers and although this is important she never took into account the whole package.
CASPER1066
03-05-2008
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“QUOTE=GODDESS;23441192]Barry is way to 'pervy'. I think he's more interested in what the girls are wearing.[/QUOTE]”

or flashing............its abit too old man pervy slobering
CASPER1066
03-05-2008
at least she gave them some constructive feedback......now all we are getting is alot of blah blah blah
ToySoldier
03-05-2008
Originally Posted by twingle:
“Yes but Zoe was only biased towards good singers and although this is important she never took into account the whole package.”

But this is a musical we're casting. Acting can be taught, movement can be directed, and hair and make-up can sort appearance. As much as a whole package is idea, if they can't sing, it's not a good starting place to cast a leading man/lady for a musical
Slow Alex
03-05-2008
Originally Posted by GODDESS:
“Barry is way to 'pervy'. I think he's more interested in what the girls are wearing.”

Let's ban all heterosexual men and live in a world where all men hate women's bodies. Down with straight men. i mean there just aren't enough gay guys on this show
Slow Alex
03-05-2008
Originally Posted by ToySoldier:
“But this is a musical we're casting. Acting can be taught, movement can be directed, and hair and make-up can sort appearance. As much as a whole package is idea, if they can't sing, it's not a good starting place to cast a leading man/lady for a musical ”

Disagree, it's easier to teach a bad singer than it is a bad actor. Besides, in Guys and Dolls Marlon Brando was crap at singing Luck be A Lady, still a great performance.
CASPER1066
03-05-2008
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Originally Posted by Slow Alex:
“Let's ban all heterosexual men and live in a world where all men hate women's bodies. Down with straight men. i mean there just aren't enough gay guys on this show ”

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she is 17 - Barry is over 60............thats pervy......
stash22
04-05-2008
I miss Zoe, I think it would benefit to have a vocal or acting coach on the panel - makes sense as they will have a wide knowledge of the technical side. I do like John, and think Denise is ok, but I'm not sure i needed another series of Denise as a panel 'expert' and John is being a little brash for my liking. I appreciate they have both been on stage but I am not always convinced by their critique. I liked the panel last year, there was a bit of flirting and fun to go with the opinions.
piper333
04-05-2008
Originally Posted by cazzbar:
“They need a judge like Craig Revel Horwood from SCD - he always gives an honest opinion.

This panel is so bland it makes my toes curl.”

yes, he was a coreographer in hdysaplm i think or maybe this one? anyway, would love him as a judge and adore zoe as well.

i wouldn't be too sure if zoe would say much about rachel though as in one review she loved Ashley
Katie.
04-05-2008
^ & so she should, Ash is fab.
ewoodie
04-05-2008
Quote:
“stash22
I miss Zoe, I think it would benefit to have a vocal or acting coach on the panel - makes sense as they will have a wide knowledge of the technical side. I do like John, and think Denise is ok, but I'm not sure i needed another series of Denise as a panel 'expert' and John is being a little brash for my liking.”

I agree. They got rid of the wrong person and BH hasn't made up for it. They should have kept Zoe and replaced either JB or DVO.


Originally Posted by twingle:
“Yes but Zoe was only biased towards good singers and although this is important she never took into account the whole package.”


Zoe just told it how it was.

First and foremost, Zoe judged the contestants singing/voice. If a contestant couldn't sing well enough for the role, then what's the point in considering the whole package?

A contestant could look the part and be a good actor but if their singing wasn't up to scratch, then they're not really a contender are they?
Ashrell
04-05-2008
I miss Zoe - she had her biases but at least she'll tell people when they're out of tune! The amount of sycophantic rubbish this year's lot are coming out with is embarrassing.
piper333
04-05-2008
Originally Posted by Slow Alex:
“Disagree, it's easier to teach a bad singer than it is a bad actor. Besides, in Guys and Dolls Marlon Brando was crap at singing Luck be A Lady, still a great performance.”

this is what i was saying about Rex Harrison as well.

anyway, about Zoe, was she just not in to a scheduling thing with Loose Women and other projects, or did they fire her?
CASPER1066
04-05-2008
they need to bring her back......like her or loath her.......she mostly said what the public was thinking...................thats gone of this panel.....
Ever Elegant
04-05-2008
Did she quit or was she fired?
CASPER1066
04-05-2008
No idea.....but they need her.....or simon cowel .....lol lol
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