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HTC Diamond - Amazing phone !!!!!
Today htc announced the release of the htc diamond, and I have to say it looks truly amazing.
The spec means its the most powerful phone availabe, the interface reinvented to make it truly finger friendly, and at last a decent browser built into a windows mobile device (opera 9.5). It merges both the iphone style with the sheer power of windows mobile devices. Apple will have to do something big to top the specs and raw power of this device, if only htc can get the brand name better advertised. take a look here: http://www.htc.com/uk/product.aspx?id=46038 |
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Apple will have to do something big to top the specs and raw power of this device
4GB 500Mhz processor 3.2mpx camera 2.8" screen (though VGA resolution) HSDPA Apple already has 16GB and a 600+Mhz processor, a vastly superior interface and a bigger screen. Its almost certain that the next iPhone will have at a minimum 3G and 3.2mpx camera and perhaps 32GB of storage next month. I don't see how they have to do something "big". |
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i thought those obsessed by raw specs demanded more than a 3.2 megapixel camera.
i see it says it has 4GB capacity; can you increase this with a card? do you know how much it is? |
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i thought those obsessed by raw specs demanded more than a 3.2 megapixel camera.
i see it says it has 4GB capacity; can you increase this with a card? do you know how much it is? The diamond is really a smartphone without the boring bulky looks and crappy interface of traditional smartphones. The 4gb cant be increased, well at least nothing has been said about it I have to admit this is a really big downside and there is no 3.5mm audio socket. I dont really think it of it as an iphone rival more a smartphone with some of the innovative features of the iphone added. As for cost I dont know, it will be available on all 5 major uk networks so expect it to be available free on certain contracts. Last edited by stevej26uk : 06-05-2008 at 15:37. Reason: It seems my orignal source was wrong! |
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i thought those obsessed by raw specs demanded more than a 3.2 megapixel camera.
i see it says it has 4GB capacity; can you increase this with a card? do you know how much it is? Where did you get your info from Steve? |
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Really? Lets look at the specs
4GB 500Mhz processor 3.2mpx camera 2.8" screen (though VGA resolution) HSDPA Apple already has 16GB and a 600+Mhz processor, a vastly superior interface and a bigger screen. Its almost certain that the next iPhone will have at a minimum 3G and 3.2mpx camera and perhaps 32GB of storage next month. I don't see how they have to do something "big". The qualcom processor in the htc diamond is an amazing processor capable of some amazing stuff, much like pc's the cpu's clock speed isnt always the most important thing. The iphone interface is excellent and far superior to windows mobile yes, but htc have evolved touchflo so hopefully you will hardly have to use the basic windows mobile interface. Both devices are amazing technology that I thinkk we all have to admit |
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There has been no mention of external storage. Its not listed on the specification page either.
Where did you get your info from Steve? |
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If a bigger screen and more gb's is ur thing then yes i concede spec wise iphone wins.
The qualcom processor in the htc diamond is an amazing processor capable of some amazing stuff, much like pc's the cpu's clock speed isnt always the most important thing. The iphone interface is excellent and far superior to windows mobile yes, but htc have evolved touchflo so hopefully you will hardly have to use the basic windows mobile interface. Both devices are amazing technology that I thinkk we all have to admit Sure, Touch Flo is better than your standard WinMob phone without it, but you quickly reach its limitations. There is only so much vendors can do on their own. It will require more work from Microsofts part in 7 & 8 before the UI can touch the iPhones. (awful pun intended) PS... for the HTC dude to say you can't use the iPhone one handed is just ludicrous. |
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It seems its being markted more as an internet device than media player, which is I suppose the difference with the iphone, I suspect the iphone will be the better media device and the diamond better for internet usage.
Having watched the press launch its seems HTC were very much placing this device as an internet device, very little was said about mp3 player etc. |
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It seems its being markted more as an internet device than media player, which is I suppose the difference with the iphone, I suspect the iphone will be the better media device and the diamond better for internet usage.
Having watched the press launch its seems HTC were very much placing this device as an internet device, very little was said about mp3 player etc. |
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PS... for the HTC dude to say you can't use the iPhone one handed is just ludicrous. |
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The problem with Touch Flo is that one - it is not that great as a touch interface
PS... for the HTC dude to say you can't use the iPhone one handed is just ludicrous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E1HaX4BtR4 The web browser is a tweaked version of opera 9.5, which is a real safari challenger Underneath all this of course still windows mobile 6.1 but i see this not a disadvantage but an advantage windows mobile has such a large range of apps available for it and is a versatile os. Trust me the qualcom chip is what makes this 3d touch interface possible and would open the way for some very powerful 3d graphics for games etc. I thinks as an internet device this will be the best you can get, i'm not impressed with the lack of memory card slot though really limits it as a media player. Is the phone rumored to be 3.6mbps hsdpa or 7.2mbps hspda like the diamond? oh i fully agree with you the about the silly comment from htc guy of course the iphone can be used one handed. |
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a first impressions view, im not to keen on the constant iphone comparisons, while its obvious htc have taken a lot of ideas from the iphone, the more I read about the phone the less I feel its an iphone rival.
Its primary purpose is internet on a mobile not a media player with phone and restricted internet tacked on. The iphone excels at what it does but the email and internet always felt like gimmicky addons, as great as safari is it has no flash support or file download, copy paste etc. Opera will bring all that execpt flash but microsoft themselves are bringing flash and sliverlight later this year. Im started this thread to highlight a great innovative phone and its turned into another my iphone is better than your phone thread arrrgghh so boring guys come on we know you love the iphone but its not perfect never will be, no phone ever will, but please please stop slating other phones. I have a vario 3 at the moment imo it's a thousand times better than the iphone but i do not feel the need to slag the iphone off for all the things it cant do that my vario 3 can. Infact I take an interest in the iphone and am looking forward to the upcoming iphone 2, I love technology and the iphone is great but by the looks of things so is the diamond, so iphone guys give it a rest please |
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I think you may be responsible there Steve, as you did mention the iPhone in your original post.
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I think you may be responsible there Steve, as you did mention the iPhone in your original post.
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yeah I mentioned the words 'iphone style' big mistake
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and "Apple will have to do something big to top the specs and raw power of this device"!
, but in my defence later posts i tried to explain how the devices are different kind of smartphones.Anyways think this will be an awesome hats off to htc. Minor grumps are the paltry 4gb with no expansion. Lack of 3.5mm socket. Small capacity battery (common htc hsdpa is a massive drain) The sony ericsson xperia x1 is another device to watch out for. |
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Can't see it being better for internet. Unless the iPhone 2 doesn't come with HSDPA.
The lack of file download, no flash, no copy and paste are limitations of safari, its a nice interface and has changed the way people expect to browse on a phone but its a limited expericence. I think htc with using opera are going for the full on internet experience. The internet isnt just a cool looking browser either, email etc are just as important. The problem with windows mobile was the internet features while there have never been very user friendly, I think this is something htc have tried to rectify with this device, the ability to do everything on the phone that you can do on your pc is what htc are aiming for. |
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Minor grumps are the paltry 4gb with no expansion.
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The iphone's only real advantage with internet was the safari browser but opera 9.5 is a very slick app and will give a browsing experience equal to that of safari.
The lack of file download, no flash, no copy and paste are limitations of safari, its a nice interface and has changed the way people expect to browse on a phone but its a limited expericence. I think htc with using opera are going for the full on internet experience. The internet isnt just a cool looking browser either, email etc are just as important. The problem with windows mobile was the internet features while there have never been very user friendly, I think this is something htc have tried to rectify with this device, the ability to do everything on the phone that you can do on your pc is what htc are aiming for. Cut and paste etc are not really "internet" issues, but one of the underlying OS. When I talk about internet capabilities of the next version of the iPhone OS I am talking about the likes of offline data, free Webkit rendering for ALL 3rd party apps, a single store for media, apps and games and so on, in addition to the vastly superior pinch, double tap and scrolling interface. HTC are heading in the right direction (and why not, they have an obvious thing to copy now as a point of reference), but Touch Flo still looks gimmicky. Look at the poor tap recognition in the very video you just linked to, where he has to press a button twice in most of the apps to get it to work. Seems quite unresponsive and probably due to the resistive touch screen (which are shit I might add). The small buttons for flipping through the cover art. Can't you flick through them? The lack of div usage for the double tap into a part of the web page. Instead it reformats the text based on where you zoomed. The pointless 3D envelope. "can you show me the message screen..." "its your standard windows mobile 6.1..". And that's where Touch Flo falls apart IMO. It isn't pervasive enough or thoroughly thought out. But as I said previously, I am glad Apple did what they did as it is forcing everybody to pay close attention to UI. It should result in a better experience for everyone. Quote:
there's a microsd slot
Link? Still only seen comments that suggest it was excluded.
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http://techdigest.tv/2008/05/htc_not_scared.html
suggested it had, but I can't find a reference on the htc site so maybe not Looking at pics I can't see a visible slot - possibly be inside ? |
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I'm quite excited about this phone, and am looking forward to having a go with one in store. It's one of only 3 phones so far this year that have made me raise my eyebrows. The other two being the Blackberry Bold and Nokia N96. I'm also interested to see what Apple come out with next month.
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its a nice interface and has changed the way people expect to browse on a phone but its a limited expericence.
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Take a look at this video I'd say touchflo has come a long way since the first version on the htc touch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E1HaX4BtR4 The web browser is a tweaked version of opera 9.5, which is a real safari challenger Underneath all this of course still windows mobile 6.1 but i see this not a disadvantage but an advantage windows mobile has such a large range of apps available for it and is a versatile os. Trust me the qualcom chip is what makes this 3d touch interface possible and would open the way for some very powerful 3d graphics for games etc. I thinks as an internet device this will be the best you can get, i'm not impressed with the lack of memory card slot though really limits it as a media player. Is the phone rumored to be 3.6mbps hsdpa or 7.2mbps hspda like the diamond? oh i fully agree with you the about the silly comment from htc guy of course the iphone can be used one handed. Frankly, unless you can make a better (or at least equal) 'multimedia/internet' phone than the iPhone I don't know why anyone would bother. There's a niche for 'smartphones' which would be primarily phones with added functionality ...but when it comes to an all-in-one personal computing device the iPhone has it sewn up, with the exception of 3G which is supposedly coming 'real soon now'. I quite like my Kaiser and for business use it still has advantages over the iPhone but once the 3G version comes out the HTC will be going on eBay (assuming the new iPhone can be jailbroken for non SIMlocked use). |
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This will be available from T-Mobile (branded as the MDA Compact 4) from July 1st (web and tele) and August 1st (retail).
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, but in my defence later posts i tried to explain how the devices are different kind of smartphones.