so at the end of the day it's a joke lol , thx for info

That depends on how you define "a joke" doesn't it?

If you are quite happy to pay ridiculous amounts of money to simply "watch TV" and to receive 100's of frivolous channels you don't want, watch or even need, then fine! Carry on...

...and "the joke" is on who now?

not on me , i got rid of sky and expected a little more from freesat HD . one HD channel and a few programs upscaled by itv (this is not a channel but a joke) , will this improve when freeview HD launches fully ? . also why is channel4 HD sky only ? , is channel five going to go the same way with their HD channel ?

I suspect that in the case of Channel 4, there are certain contractually binding agreements with Sky that are "cramping their style" at the moment.

I agree that doing HD via the "Red Button" is a bit of a joke though... ITV just don't seem to have any commitment for anything these days... Perhaps if advertising revenue picks up, that may change...

Channel 5 is just about broke isn't it?

Is NHK World leaving freesat I have no EPG for it.

Same here! I just checked in non-Freesat mode and there is no information in the "i" plate and the time is set incorrectly. Out of interest I switched over to the Astra 1 NHK world and the "i" plate is working correctly and will also display the next programme. Thus I wonder if the Astra 2 data is just missing irrespective of Freesat or not? Too much Saki ???

are not itv stopping doing the regional news soon also ? , they said they cannot afford it for much longer from what i have heard . c5 broke ? , not heard anything about that

Here's a snip from here http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...n-profits-drop back in August 09...

RTL, the biggest division, saw operating profits fall to €353m from €494m. Channel Five, whose shows include House and CSI, was the worst-performing part within RTL, despite achieving €22m of cost savings through running fewer new programmes, renegotiating with suppliers and cutting a quarter of staff.

From what I have read elsewhere, that situation hasn't really gone away yet...

Colin

sign of the times ?

My MythTV box collects FreeSat EPG data whilst recording something from a FreeSat channel; I recently noticed that there were no EPG entries either.

But when I recorded something earlier tonight, NHK World TV's EPG was showing programmes again.

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Looks like 809 JML becomes JML Direct

so any confirmed new channels coming to freesat ?

Freesat BBC iplayer started today (Tues 12th) for people with Humax HD boxes. Works very good so far. ITV player coming soon.

How do you mean??

iPlayer has been available on Humax HDs for a few weeks now, using a code.
Nothing different happened today, as far as I know?
It's not on the main BBC1 red button menu (at least, not on my box).

Someones been asleep for the past month!!

BBC released the code yesterday which is where he's getting that from, but I had the code released before Christmas with official go-ahead!

It is now available to ALL Humax HD freesat boxes users...not just to 'testers'.

More info here.......

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...es-public.html

It has been available to all humax hd owners since before christmas.I like many was not a beta tester,but the bbc i tech team allowed any one using the forum here on DS access to the code,which we were all extremely grateful for.

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added Genesis TV channel 692

Yet another waste of valuable space.Free sat must have a hotline to god!!not to mention shopping,soft porn and gambling channels!!If freesat is really committed to providing a quality service then it needs to make a real effort to attract decent channels.Reducing the cost of getting an epg slot would be a good start!!I know that we cannot expect an array of channels such as sky because it is essentially a free service to the viewer but they haven't even got close to Freeview in terms of quality.

What fta channels not already on the epg would you like to see there ?. All the decent fta stuff at 28.5/28.2 is already on the epg.

More on topic BET moved transponder from 11307 V to 11347 H

Genesis TV is not a waste of capacity at all as it was already broadcasting FTA at 28.5 E

Genesis TV is simply paying the fee to be added to the freesat EPG, the more channels already broadcasting FTA at 28 E that pay to be added the more successful freesat will become.

Christian TV is a very welcome addition to freesat IMHO and much better than slapper/gambling/shopping channels although shopping channels do serve a purpose for some!

don't deny Christians their choice of programming just because you don't like Christian TV because it is CHRISTIAN!

after all choice is what multi channel satellite services are all about, and choice is a good thing.

you never know! if you watch some of the Christian TV you may find some has an educational value too.

Because one doesn't wish a saturation of God channels on tv does not make them non christian or non any religious faith.Equally because one doesn't wish to be saturated with shopping channels doesn't mean they are adverse to shopping.You probably can't see that in the same way you could only make reference to christianity!!Yes it is a waste of space because if it had stayed in non freesat mode it would not have been taking an epg slot.I think that the £30,000- per annum these religious bodies spend to be on the epg would be better spent on many justifiable causes around the world'AMEN

film 24,true entertainment,unexplained +increased hd services.