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davemurgatroyd
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Freesat is a propierty epg system with a patented logo. It's not the BBC's. Any channel not on the Freesat epg can't be described as Freesat, they are just free to air.

It's a seperate ring fenced company that solely exists to provide an epg for those broadcasters wishing to pay to be included in the epg (This includes the BBC).

It's nothing to do with say freesat from sky or free to air content not on the Freesat epg.

It 's a joint not for profit organisation by the BBC and ITV whose intention was to fill in the holes in the terrestrial Freeview service with as similar a service as possible.

Nothing wrong with detailing changes to free to air content from EB1/Astra2, indeed a thread in the Satellite technical forum on the same lines would be most usefull and interesting. Why not start one ?. It would then be possible to follow how changes to the Freesat epg line up and other channels relate to each other.”

I agree that FTA non freesat info should not be in this thread however I feel it would be better in a thread on this forum entitled "Channels available in non-freesat mode" or similar, after all how many freesat users are aware that there are channels available on their freesat boxes that are not on the EPG. Putting such info in a non freesat forum is depriving many of them of the info required to increase the pleasure they get from a freesat box (at least those are capable of non freesat mode).
grahamlthompson
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd:
“I agree that FTA non freesat info should not be in this thread however I feel it would be better in a thread on this forum entitled "Channels available in non-freesat mode" or similar, after all how many freesat users are aware that there are channels available on their freesat boxes that are not on the EPG. Putting such info in a non freesat forum is depriving many of them of the info required to increase the pleasure they get from a freesat box (at least those are capable of non freesat mode).”

That's a good idea However the info is available in an up to date format from quite a few sites

eg

http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&p...q&filtre=Clear

Similar info for just the Freesat epg channels isn't so easily found. I maintain an up to date list on the web.

http://humaxgoodies.weebly.com/
Digi Man
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd:
“I agree that FTA non freesat info should not be in this thread however I feel it would be better in a thread on this forum entitled "Channels available in non-freesat mode" or similar, after all how many freesat users are aware that there are channels available on their freesat boxes that are not on the EPG. Putting such info in a non freesat forum is depriving many of them of the info required to increase the pleasure they get from a freesat box (at least those are capable of non freesat mode).”

So there's two options-

1, Start a thread in the 'Non-platform specific satellite TV' forum titled "28.5/28.2° East & Non -Freesat mode channels, changes, etc"

2, Start a thread in this forum titled "Channels & Changes in Non-Freesat mode"

I personally prefer option two, Dave's idea. Then again we could go with both idea's, perhaps?

Edit: New thread here-http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1597401
Digi Man
09-12-2011
New thread here- http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1597401
Rolandh
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Particulary for Humax owners (especially for those using a single cable connection), the transponder disposition of the channels is needed to identify dual recording and third viewing capability.”

There is stuff like this going on in the Freeview Change Log, but I'm guessing that it doesn't go on in the Sky Forum as he who can't be named would bite everyone that posts out of places head off

This is also handy for Humax owners in dual cable mode as well.

Roland
davemurgatroyd
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by Rolandh:
“There is stuff like this going on in the Freeview Change Log, but I'm guessing that it doesn't go on in the Sky Forum as he who can't be named would bite everyone that posts out of places head off

This is also handy for Humax owners in dual cable mode as well.

Roland”

There is a thread in the Sky forum detailing all new appearances (FTA and encrypted) on 28 East, here - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1597029.
Rolandh
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd:
“There is a thread in the Sky forum detailing all new appearances (FTA and encrypted) on 28 East, here - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1597029.”

I know I visit it all the time, that's the only reason that I use the Sky Forum.

Roland
grahamrudkin
10-12-2011
Guy's!

This thread is not intended to be for discussion!

This is a CHANGE LOG intended to LOG changes to freesat, the satellite TV service from the BBC and ITV, if you want to discuss other changes to the satellite TV platform in general then please use the relevant threads in the relevant sub-forums.

If a relevant thread does not exist then create one.

Now! Could we please get this CHANGE LOG back on topic!

Maybe one of the moderators could clean up this change log!
Flyer 10
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by grahamrudkin:
“Maybe one of the moderators could clean up this change log! ”

Going by previous form, they will delete your post and leave the rest as it is.
grahamlthompson
13-12-2011
Just for accuracies sake

Chan 875 has changed name to PlayboyTV Chat (Was RED LIGHT )
Night Watchman
05-01-2012
Channel 516 now carrying Chart Show +1 but still showing station id of NME TV which has ceased broadcasting.
EPG also shows Chart Show +1 details correctly but also under name of NME TV.
Could be this is just a place holder until another CSC Media Group channel starts up - hopefully Dance Nation.
Flyer 10
05-01-2012
It has to be a place holder, its insane to have a +1 music channel.
David500
05-01-2012
Thanks to Barry @ My Humax Forum
There were 6 Changes:
Ch 516 changed from NME TV to ChartShowTV +1

Found 4 more:
Ch 142 TRUE ENT renamed to True Ent
Ch 302 True Movies renamed to True Movies 1
Ch 605 Tiny POP renamed to Tiny Pop
Ch 606 Kix! renamed to Kix
M60
05-01-2012
Originally Posted by David500:
“Thanks to Barry @ My Humax Forum
There were 6 Changes:
Ch 516 changed from NME TV to ChartShowTV +1

Found 4 more:
Ch 142 TRUE ENT renamed to True Ent
Ch 302 True Movies renamed to True Movies 1
Ch 605 Tiny POP renamed to Tiny Pop
Ch 606 Kix! renamed to Kix”

I much prefer less CAPITALISATION on channel names, looks more slick! Was Flava's name also changed, is that the sixth as I think that is also uppercase??
Muzer
05-01-2012
Wasn't it always True Movies 1?
pad_ehh
06-01-2012
The EPG is silly. We have "C 4 + 1" but "Channel 5 +1" appears in it's entirety, so why abbreviate one and not the other? There is also room for "Channel 4 HD" in full but we get "C4HD" instead. Not as big a deal but still baffles why they feel they have to abbreviate everything. Inspiration is abbreviated to INI (how are you supposed to tell what channel that is? ) and there are others. Freesat could do with someone with a bit of common sense in charge deciding what the channels are called on the EPG.
davemurgatroyd
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Paddy C:
“The EPG is silly. We have "C 4 + 1" but "Channel 5 +1" appears in it's entirety, so why abbreviate one and not the other? There is also room for "Channel 4 HD" in full but we get "C4HD" instead. Not as big a deal but still baffles why they feel they have to abbreviate everything. Inspiration is abbreviated to INI (how are you supposed to tell what channel that is? ) and there are others. Freesat could do with someone with a bit of common sense in charge deciding what the channels are called on the EPG.”

How channel names appear in the EPG is nothing to do with freesat themselves. The name displayed is taken from the data broadcast by the channel themselves or in the EPG data they provide to freesat. Freesat only set a specification for it to contain a certain amount of characters and which characters can be used.
grahamlthompson
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Muzer:
“Wasn't it always True Movies 1?”

I think that's down to me, my list had True Movies rather than True Movies 1 .

Not sure what the other changes are except that it looks like 730 Planet Rock appears to now be PlanetRock
Muzer
06-01-2012
Yes, I was wrong about True Movies 1.
snaps85
08-01-2012
Its probably mentioned here but NME is gone and now replaced with chart show on the exact same channel/frequency (hope this is in the right section since it is FTA
snaps85
08-01-2012
shame really no proper indie/classic rock channels FTA now (sorry bout second post - having net issues)
jzee
08-01-2012
Originally Posted by snaps85:
“shame really no proper indie/classic rock channels FTA now (sorry bout second post - having net issues)”

You can get some indie on TUUNE on propeller on 11343V, 11AM-1PM, 8PM-11PM .


http://www.gmg.tv/gmgnews/news-tuune-tv-launched/
http://www.gmg.tv/services/tuune/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tuune/276077148477
bobg144
10-01-2012
Channel 5 now broadcasting from Astra 1N on 10964H.
DragonQ
10-01-2012
That's only regions 1 & 3-5, right? The London version is still on Astra 2D?
pad_ehh
10-01-2012
Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd:
“How channel names appear in the EPG is nothing to do with freesat themselves. The name displayed is taken from the data broadcast by the channel themselves or in the EPG data they provide to freesat. Freesat only set a specification for it to contain a certain amount of characters and which characters can be used.”

If you leave your box off at the mains for a while or perform a full system reset Channel 4 HD and Channel 4+1 appear in the EPG in full, but when the guide then does it's first update, it changes to 'C4HD' and 'C 4 + 1' because the software in the Humax box is obviously set to display it that way, otherwise why would it change at all? On the info banner it appears in full but not on the guide as Humax believe there isn't enough room for it to be displayed in full when clearly there is, not only on Freesat but on Sky as well.
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