Not all of their decision, but most definitely this one, Just because the decision is made, certainly doesn't mean its the right one, Al envisaged that everyone would deplore Rafe and applaud his decision. Bang wrong.


Of course, Rafe would just don a bear-suit without any kind of prompting.


You brought them into the topic.



No, going along with the opinions that matter, the ones that cast the decisions, i.e., you are too scared to go against Sir Al.



If you think Rafe should have been fired then it's as good as.


Hopefully yes.

That's laughable. Those santinmonious cretins trying to convince me that Rafe is inferior to them

More class in his little toe nail.

Simple as that!

not naive...i work in the industry. i think i know more about it than most.

Well apart from a very few posts without any substance or supporting evidence, I've hardly seen any that point towards people deploring Raef. In my opinion there is nothing to deplore about him. He is undoubtedly one of the nicest contestants that I've seen on any series of The Apprentice. But he definetely wasn't Apprentice material.


What has that got to do with the BBC manipulating the result to get Raef out? And yes, I do think he would don a bear-suit of his own accord. In previous tasks he wanted to dress up in Italian garb, as a native Moraccan and something else which escapes me at the moment. Do you even watch the show?


I brought them in to support what I was saying. You then went off topic and attacked Nick's character.


You reallly are embarrasing yourself now. I suggest you read the previous weekly threads, then you'll see how often I've disagreed with SAS's decisions.


What a lovely person you are . Its a pity that some of Raef's charm and elegance hasn't rubbed off on you.

So to summarise, you think SAS, Nick, Margaret and the other candidates are wrong, even though they've been in close contact with Raef over the past few weeks, and you are right? To use your phrase, "that's laughable".

I know this. I am saying that back in October or whenever it was filmed, Sir Al probably reckoned that his decision to fire Rafe early would be popular, he didn't think Rafe would be popular!



Dressing up as a Morrocan IN Morrocco seems pretty sensible in contrast to inexplicably getting into a bear-suit for no apparant reason, at all. It's got to do with it as an example of the BBc sticking their oar in, i.e. - keep Michael in, he's entertainng.




I did attack Nick, I find him ill-fit to make judgements.



Well, I find it unbeleivable that you haven't disagreed with the worst one of all.



I've never professed to be a man like Rafe, I just admired him greatly.


I think Sir Al and Nick are BANG wrong. Margaret did not have an aired-opinion on the matter, I believe that is because she was in support of Rafe, and in the past few weeks, Al has ignored Mag's advice to boot Michael. And as for the other contestants, those upstarts have no say whatsoever and aren't fit to even mention Rafe's name!

*how* are the bbc sticking their oar in?

as i said, they haven't even got the tapes yet for the final episodes - they deliver the tapes so late.

i've heard of arguments that the production company might have influenced sas, but never the bbc...

It's the BBC's show, they can order whatever they like.

because they DON'T.

it's a talkback thames production. THEY film it. THEY edit it.

NOT - repeat NOT - the bbc

it's not. it's talkback thames.

*sigh*

Yes, read your post properly and edited it

The BBC will have the final say I'm sorry, it is aired on their channel, they can order loads of them Boardrooms re-filmed.

lol. you know what, i don't think you even care what the truth is.

i can keep telling you - as i know the truth - but you won't listen.

so here's it nice and simple.

the bbc haven't even got the last episode yet as talkback are still holding onto it.

the bbc DON'T have final say. why the hell would they? if nothing else, you think they're going to mess around with a programme after queengate and bluepetergate?

a programme isn't made to order like that...they order a set number of episodes at 58 minutes each. that's it.

the bbc never has. and never will. be able to order reshoots of boardroom scenes.

now, you can take this as the truth if you like, from someone who works in the industry, knows it as truth, and has proven i can be trusted from the spoiler boards.

or, you can continue in this deluded diatribe against the bbc because your raef got fired this week...

lol. if its the second, which i'm guessing it is, i'm leaving you to it, i have much better things to do!

It IS the second. Despite your involvment in television, I honestly do not beleive what I am seeing on wednesday night has not been manipulated.

lol!

there's no talking to some people...!

I wonder just how 'high up' you are in industry. No disrespect.

lol! none taken.

you can wonder all you like.

As I say, its so obvious that the show is edited to specific orders

lol............

I'm laughing right back at you honey.

lol...bless.

watch you don't get suspended again...

what from a tree?

that's a little too much personal information for me!

lol!!!

anyway, i'm outta here, so you can tell everyone about how the bbc has fixed the show to get raef out to your heart's content! like i said, better things to do...!

I'm not going to disagree with SAS on this decision because I think he was right, although as I've stated in the main thread for last night's show a double firing of Raef and Michael might have been more appropriate.

Good for you for liking Raef, he's got many qualities to be admired. But, regardless of what you say or how you perceive the program to be edited there are 2 very simple facts that are not going to change:
1) Raef is NOT going to win (obviously) and
2) You are not going to convince me that Raef had the business sense to become The Apprentice.

That said, I shall now leave you in your own little world to dream about BBC conspiracies and your perceived incompetency of one of Britain's most successful business men.
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For someone so plainly obsessed with last night's dismissal it's a damned shame you can't even spell Raef's name correctly. Some fan you must be

And if you were around for my previous threads in preceding weeks, I explained why I spell his name that way. My thread about Rafe yesterday had the name spelt correctly, but in threads, I spell it this way.


So, Claire gets away with her CRAP box and CRAP brand name? Helene gets away with doing NOTHING?



And nor are you going to convince me that I'm wrong.


Anyone sort of person can be a success. Doesn't mean they make the right decisions on TV programmes all of the time.

I agree he shouldn't have gone this week.

Do you think he went into the boardroom with the wrong strategy?