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WWJD Cameron??
For his entire time in the house, BB1 winner, Craig, never so much as hinted what he would do with his winnings. So those of us who admired the down-to-earth Scouse, none-too-bright, but with such a stong belief in right and wrong that he dared take on 'Nasty Nick' , were wonderfully gob-smacked when he, on exit, gave the whole lot away to his friend who needed vital surgery. It was a magic moment.
Ray, seriously in debt, said he would have given 10k to Great Ormond Street Hospital. Typical of the guy. Heart on the sleeve. And Cameron, the winner, the self-righteous 'Christian', promised a piano to his church, and for himself, a 50k Lexus, and a trip to the USA. WWJD? - Give all you have to feed the poor. It's there in the Bible. Cameron, you earn over 4 times the average UK salary, and you've had a bonus payment of 70k for doing Fanny Adams for 9 weeks, when, no doubt, your salary is being paid into your account. No one is asking you to be a martyr. But could you please try to be a Christian? Which is what you profess to be. Frankly, I'm not impressed by your self-indulgent trip to the USA. You don't need to give all you have to feed the poor, but could you manage a crumb or two, if you are what you say you are? You're a sham. A piano? Gawd help us. |
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Re: WWJD Cameron??
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Originally posted by Godot Right...Where to start with this...Craigs belief in right and wrong....hmmm...whatever...For his entire time in the house, BB1 winner, Craig, never so much as hinted what he would do with his winnings. So those of us who admired the down-to-earth Scouse, none-too-bright, but with such a stong belief in right and wrong that he dared take on 'Nasty Nick' , were wonderfully gob-smacked when he, on exit, gave the whole lot away to his friend who needed vital surgery. It was a magic moment. He dared to take on Nasty Nick...right....He was taken in my Nick, more than most, and even voted to his masters bidding and leapt with joy in the bedroom with him when others were nominated....It wasn't until he was told about Nick that he did anything and then only with the others gathered round....and the others were equally involved..let's not pretend this was a Craig victory of any sort..for some reason he got the credit for it because he said the most in the meeting (Darren went and got the suitcase with the proof).... "We were wonderfully gobsmaked"....yeah, right...those who didn't know a week before what he was planning to do with the winnings...it had already been conveniently leaked.......So it was less "magical" than predictable....... |
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Originally posted by Mesostim Excellent assessment of the real events of BB1, and despite the donation of the prize money, one of the most unlikeable BB contestants.Right...Where to start with this...Craigs belief in right and wrong....hmmm...whatever... He dared to take on Nasty Nick...right....He was taken in my Nick, more than most, and even voted to his masters bidding and leapt with joy in the bedroom with him when others were nominated....It wasn't until he was told about Nick that he did anything and then only with the others gathered round....and the others were equally involved..let's not pretend this was a Craig victory of any sort..for some reason he got the credit for it because he said the most in the meeting (Darren went and got the suitcase with the proof).... "We were wonderfully gobsmaked"....yeah, right...those who didn't know a week before what he was planning to do with the winnings...it had already been conveniently leaked.......So it was less "magical" than predictable....... Almost as big a whitewash as this year, perhaps? Anna was robbed - but gratifyingly only by 2% of the vote. Oh, Godot. 100% right about Cameron.
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does this one really matter now whether craig or anna won
the REAL winner was craigs friend ......the girl was down syndrome and needed a lung tranplant .....so one great thing came out of that
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with 100 grand a year you would think he could have bought them a piano before. Surely he means organ anyway ?? And isnt he the one that plays it too ?
Jesus wouldnt buy a Lexus
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Where does it say Cameron would buy a 50K Lexus car? Frankly, I don't really care how he or any of the HMs would have spent the money. It doesn't really make them any more or less deserving than the next HM; one only knows what their spending intentions are after the event anyway, otherwise extreme bias would become a factor in any voting consideration.
The real question that should be asked is whether or not they are deserving winners which is entirely subjective and represents another topic altogether. Indeed, this forum has been inundated with such topics (re: Cameron's tactics, his depiction, etc) so raising the question again would be pointless. EDIT: And Goodfella is right about the piano/organ issue. Anyone on a £100K salary could easily have contributed towards a new one long ago, esp. if they are truly devoted to their faith. Further, if you wish to focus on someone's spending intentions then consider what they would do for others (not themselves) and ponder if they have or have not been able to do so without a BB victory, e.g. Steph paying off her parents' mortgage compared to buying a new piano/organ on a £100K salary. |
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Originally posted by Godot What an excelent post !!! - well said!For his entire time in the house, BB1 winner, Craig, never so much as hinted what he would do with his winnings. So those of us who admired the down-to-earth Scouse, none-too-bright, but with such a stong belief in right and wrong that he dared take on 'Nasty Nick' , were wonderfully gob-smacked when he, on exit, gave the whole lot away to his friend who needed vital surgery. It was a magic moment. Ray, seriously in debt, said he would have given 10k to Great Ormond Street Hospital. Typical of the guy. Heart on the sleeve. And Cameron, the winner, the self-righteous 'Christian', promised a piano to his church, and for himself, a 50k Lexus, and a trip to the USA. WWJD? - Give all you have to feed the poor. It's there in the Bible. Cameron, you earn over 4 times the average UK salary, and you've had a bonus payment of 70k for doing Fanny Adams for 9 weeks, when, no doubt, your salary is being paid into your account. No one is asking you to be a martyr. But could you please try to be a Christian? Which is what you profess to be. Frankly, I'm not impressed by your self-indulgent trip to the USA. You don't need to give all you have to feed the poor, but could you manage a crumb or two, if you are what you say you are? You're a sham. A piano? Gawd help us. I am certainly no Christian, in fact, an Atheist but I do admire The Salvation Army for their "forget the religion it's hands on approach". Their motovation may be religous, but they get off their backsided and help all - with the likes of food hand outs and shelter. It was funny a few years ago we had some localised flooding in one part of our town and many homes needed to be evacuated. The funny thing was right at the end of the street was a "well to do" Church, but no one from their went and helped, no one from there rolled up their posh suit trouser legs and waded in - But the Savation Army was there in force - opening up hall and getting beds sorted and informing families that their loved ones were safe!!! So! I personally don't subscribe to their reasons for their actions but they are at least practicing what their Middle Class Christian collegues only preach!!! |
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Totally off-topic, but even though I avoid most Christians like the plague, I've nothing but praise for the Salvation Army and the work they do.
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Originally posted by Goodfella No, he would never play with his organ. Haven't you read what it says about Onan in the bible? with 100 grand a year you would think he could have bought them a piano before. Surely he means organ anyway ?? And isnt he the one that plays it too ?
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who wants a Lexus?
Alan Partridge drives a Lexus ffs! |
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Originally posted by Edna Likewise, Edna. At least the Sally Army do something other from preaching and they do it in their own backyard. The work they do for the homeless has always been wonderful.Totally off-topic, but even though I avoid most Christians like the plague, I've nothing but praise for the Salvation Army and the work they do. They show love and compassion for their fellow man regardless of their personal circumstances and they're always there in a crisis. I don't agree with their belief system but at least they practice what they preach. |
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Pianos are really expensive. Well, new ones are, anyway. Organs even more so!
Don't most churches *ask* for donations of around 10% of your salary? Tithes, or whatever it's called? If Cam's been in the church for say a couple of years, on £100,000 pa, that would mean he could already have paid for a couple of uprights off eBay by now - just from whatever he's putting into the plate of a Sunday! |
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Originally posted by tellychick Me thinks not, every church I have been to just passes collection box round, put a couple of quid in and your fine.Pianos are really expensive. Well, new ones are, anyway. Organs even more so! Don't most churches *ask* for donations of around 10% of your salary? Tithes, or whatever it's called? If Cam's been in the church for say a couple of years, on £100,000 pa, that would mean he could already have paid for a couple of uprights off eBay by now - just from whatever he's putting into the plate of a Sunday! The 10% you are thinking about is probably some old bribe system to ensure someones passage to the promised land I thinks Cameron is an ungrateful two faced SOAB if he cannot give his winnings to the church bearing in mind he does earn what you say he does. One of his original characteristics that helped the scam seem more realistic was his reading of the bible, so did he miss the bit out about helping those that are in need? Wish they had not faded out the boos now, he deserved the whole country to hear them and laugh at him. W. |
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Why have most people jumped to the conclusion that Cameron won't give/doesn't give money to charity????
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im not bothered if Cameron flushes the money down the bog.
So he is a Christian! does that mean he is obligated to give his winnings away? Now personally i cant stand the bloke but i think he has the right to do what the hell he likes with his winnings, give him a break (his right arm preferably)
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you are all so judgemental. how much money do you all give to charity a year? probably crap all. and i don't even like cameron but you are all a bunch of whinging no lifes with nothing better to think about. no offence
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I live in a street with many christian churches
RC/Church of Scotland/Baptists/Presbyterians By now the RC's and Church of Scotland people frighten me the most You canni take the dog out when they are there, if you try to park THEY DONT move a meter, I mean .AND THEY DO NOT SMILE IMHO thats not christianity Guess thats why Sham went on my knickers Thumbs up for Blood and Fire
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Originally posted by lorna78 you are all so judgemental. how much money do you all give to charity a year? probably crap all. and i don't even like cameron but you are all a bunch of whinging no lifes with nothing better to think about. no offence
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Originally posted by lorna78 Wow! You say you don't like Cameron!! Cameron's the Bible quoting Christian, so that's why people judge him in the terms they do.
you are all so judgemental. how much money do you all give to charity a year? probably crap all. and i don't even like cameron but you are all a bunch of whinging no lifes with nothing better to think about. no offence |
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Originally posted by pipkin Exactly.im not bothered if Cameron flushes the money down the bog. So he is a Christian! does that mean he is obligated to give his winnings away? Now personally i cant stand the bloke but i think he has the right to do what the hell he likes with his winnings, give him a break (his right arm preferably)
And how much does it really cost to travel to Chicago? It's not as if he's going to blow every penny on that trip. And if he did, that's his business. Since when does the winner of BB owe us a detailed list of where every penny of the 70k is gonna go? Just because he hasn't mentioned a charity doesn't mean he's not going to do it. |
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When Cameron was asked what he would do with the money he might have thought that he'd successfully kidded everyone that he was a simple fish trader from Orkney who'd never been to London Town before and never seen a £50 note. Therefore he talked about a piano for the church, some home improvements for his family and a "once in a lifetime" trip to America.
(Not all churches have organs: it's quite usual for a Baptist church to have a piano). However, despite his £100K salary I think he is a frugal person at heart (Scottish stereotype), witness his conversations with Steph when he talked about saving money on household products and own brand ranges. Note also that the present he's taking his godchild is the toy giraffe he obtained on BB. |
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Re: WWJD Cameron??
Going off on a slight tangent, apparently WWJD is this year's FTV (or something like that I suppose). It even made the serious press as the cover story in yesterday's The Independent (Review supplement):
<extract quote> " WWJD...The Making of a Fashion Phenomenon... Four Letters That Shook The World... What Would Jesus Do? (or WWJD to those in the know). The slogan was devised to help young Christians handle everyday dilemmas.... Now it's a fashion movement - and the message has gone mainstream.... The intrigue stems from a passing comment on this year's Big Brother.... no sooner had Cameron made his comments than reports appeared in the press of a run on bracelets at Christian bookshops.... they could become the latest in 'kitsch, ironic fashion'. " </quote> (ps. Don't know if this has been posted already, I did take a quick glance through thread titles first, but apologies if it has.) Apparently WWJD is a thriving industry, the Independent's cover pics show you can get WWJD bracelets, necklaces, teddy bears, mugs, boxer shorts, etc etc. I took a peek inside a Christian bookshop today just out of interest... no teenies there, just a couple of oldies plus a nun. ![]() And they didn't seem to have any WWJD wristbands (or sold out?!) - well, I didn't see any but I daren't ask
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Re: WWJD Cameron??
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Originally posted by Godot Why does Cam have to say what he's gonna do with the money?For his entire time in the house, BB1 winner, Craig, never so much as hinted what he would do with his winnings. So those of us who admired the down-to-earth Scouse, none-too-bright, but with such a stong belief in right and wrong that he dared take on 'Nasty Nick' , were wonderfully gob-smacked when he, on exit, gave the whole lot away to his friend who needed vital surgery. It was a magic moment. Ray, seriously in debt, said he would have given 10k to Great Ormond Street Hospital. Typical of the guy. Heart on the sleeve. And Cameron, the winner, the self-righteous 'Christian', promised a piano to his church, and for himself, a 50k Lexus, and a trip to the USA. WWJD? - Give all you have to feed the poor. It's there in the Bible. Cameron, you earn over 4 times the average UK salary, and you've had a bonus payment of 70k for doing Fanny Adams for 9 weeks, when, no doubt, your salary is being paid into your account. No one is asking you to be a martyr. But could you please try to be a Christian? Which is what you profess to be. Frankly, I'm not impressed by your self-indulgent trip to the USA. You don't need to give all you have to feed the poor, but could you manage a crumb or two, if you are what you say you are? You're a sham. A piano? Gawd help us. And if he said he was going to give money to charity - would you then accuse him of being un-Christian by crowing about his charitable nature. I don't like the guy - but give him a break. And if I recall - didn't the girl get the treatment without Craig's help? |
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WWSD ?
Blow all the cash on drink, drugs and loose women!!! Sounds like the life for me
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